Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

[sakuraZaKi]

I just want Koromaru.

Please.

Koromaru.

Oh wait.

 

[Lythium]

More info: http://shoryuken.com/2013/08/15/new...-3-location-tests-scheduled-for-august-16-18/

I just want them to make this game less wild, haha.

EDIT: Oh, and I want Labrys to not suck so hard.

 

[Rutger]

Shadow characters sound interesting. I love when fighting games have different forms for the characters.


http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/694/694662/
Junes rooftop confirmed!

Here's hoping they don't leave good music tracks as story mode only. I'll Face Myself, please Arcsys/Atlus?

 

[LivewiresXe]

Oh snap, this is awesome news to wake up to. I wonder if there'll be a new story mode too...though...I admittedly haven't played the P4A story mode *bows head in shame*.

And Shadow versions of characters? Why do I get the feeling Shadow Chie has the potential to be insane?


Edit: Though wait, Elizabeth has the MOST Persona cards along with Shabrys? I mean, with Shabrys it makes sense but...the only way I ever stand a chance against Liz is when she's got no Persona, so eep. Though thinking about it, it actually means when she DOES get Persona broken she's in that state for longer so it's probably not all that bad. And also, thinking about it, is anybody else alone in thinking P4A might be better suited to a more old BB (pre-Chronophantasma) speed?

 

[Zankoku]

Just SB God Hand. Double punch.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

It makes sense Liz has the most persona cards, she has the entire compendium at her disposal lol.

 

[Jam Stunna]

And also, thinking about it, is anybody else alone in thinking P4A might be better suited to a more old BB (pre-Chronophantasma) speed?

Hell no. Jourdal posted a bunch of videos from CS1 recently, and after watching CP videos CS1 is like watching paint dry.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I dunno, I was watching some CS2 matches he posted and they seemed fine. Some people have been saying for a while P4A's too hectic (which it kinda feels like at times), as they were saying BB felt too slow (which I never thought, but I guess I can kinda see), so I figure as BB's getting faster, having P4A get a little slower might just balance things out. Who knows though, I'll have to see actual footage when it's up to decide.

 

[Minato]

Fun fact of the day guys regarding hit stop. BBCS and GG share the same amount of hit stop. BBCP has less hitstop than those two games while Persona has higher amount of hit stop than all of these games. The general speed of all of these games are different of course.

Edit: Actually just checked. No known data for P4's hitstop. The amount of frames do feel pretty long though.

 

[Rutger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82RD58ovQdQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5njd88-UNaU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAfljz8W5Fc

Junpei not sounding like Edward Elric is weird.


So Elizabeth has Debilitate, a counter that causes Negative penalty?

 

[Zankoku]

Wait, the lifebar no longer changes color. Did they remove Awakening's defense buff and only leave the extra SP skill and +50 SP? 'Cause I'd totally be okay with that.

 

[LivewiresXe]

It could be me, but Junpei totally sounds like Hazama.

 

[Zankoku]

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/show...y-Discussion&p=1531637&viewfull=1#post1531637

 

[Rutger]

I'm hearing that Yosuke has a teleport in Sukukaja now...

Only about a year at best until it comes out on consoles! :D

 

[LivewiresXe]

I see two ways to look at this. Either "oh, only 2 new characters?" or "hey, over 10 new characters!". Though it'll be interesting to see who ranks higher or lower than their Shadow version when the game releases in Japan and has a tier list.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Looks like there are extra spaces on the top for 2 more characters, btw.

Don't take my word for it, though.

 

[Crusayer]

I can see this being tough for arc sys to balance a whole new cast of shadow characters alongside the newer characters and old character tweaks. Hopefully they'll be able to pull it off.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Haha, yeah. Though I'm admittedly hoping the Shadow Rage bit for the Shadow versions brings up V-ISM/CVS2 shenanigans.

 

[Zankoku]

Shadow Rage honestly sounds closer to Melty's Heat activation than it does Custom Combo mode.

 

[Jam Stunna]

Compiled list of changes (so far): http://pastebin.com/j6eJnPxh

Grave Digger for Labrys? Yes please.

 

[LivewiresXe]

No Bursts for the Shadow characters other than Shabrys? Well...I guess that drops each of them at least a tier since that mechanic can kinda...y'know, be pretty useful.

 

[Lythium]

No Bursts for the Shadow characters other than Shabrys? Well...I guess that drops each of them at least a tier since that mechanic can kinda...y'know, be pretty useful.

Considering the game isn't even out yet, and we know very little about it, I'm really confused as to how you came to this conclusion.

 

[Rutger]

It's way too early to say how good or bad Shadow characters will be. :/

The loss of the burst shouldn't be too bad, you always had the option to use it offensively, now you get that choice at the character select screen.
Shadow characters will also get to start the match with their best tools available.

And we know that there will be some differences in how Normal and Shadow characters work, so it's not like Arcsys is just changing how burst and meter works and hoping everything balances itself out.


I'm really interested in how different a shadow character would be from its counterpart, there's almost no info on those changes. I'm hoping to see a lot of moves have different properties.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Considering the game isn't even out yet, and we know very little about it, I'm really confused as to how you came to this conclusion.

I was just going off the assumption that since they're taking away one of your defensive options, they would be essentially limiting how you play the match. It'd sort of, I guess be the same thing if BB had similar things, only the versions had no Barrier Block and just 1 primer. Truth be told though, the Shadow versions sound more like all-out offensive based versions than anything else.

 

[Rutger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA6L6xMGz54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opsUamQ8kU0

Yukari vs. Shadow Kanji

Haha, Yukari was able to charm Shadow Kanji.

 

[Crusayer]

Then you remember the fact that you can super several times during shadow rage. Inb4crossslashx5. That Kanji totally had the right idea (;

 

[Jam Stunna]

Inb4crossslashx5

 

[LivewiresXe]

I'm kind of laughing at the thought of being able to Triple Power Charge into like a 7k Godhand with Shadow Chie just for the hell of it.

 

[Zankoku]

So I guess the hype lasted for a little more than a whole weekend, lol.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, I know in my case I'm just waiting to hear and see more. That, and I'm trying to figure out things as I play Resonance of Fate (see also: wondering how in the hell to do a Tri-Attack).

 

[Minato]

Well, I know in my case I'm just waiting to hear and see more. That, and I'm trying to figure out things as I play Resonance of Fate (see also: wondering how in the hell to do a Tri-Attack).

I've only played the demo of Resonance of Fate on the Japanese PSN. All I remember was, there was a load of instructions lol

It's a bit strange. I'm looking forward to this game, but I'm not absorbed into the buffs and nerfs compared to BB updates. It might be because I know a lot of characters, so there's a chance I won't stick with just Narukami or something.

 

[LivewiresXe]

It also might have to do with, at least with me, that Chronophantasma is on the near horizon, and GG Xrd is likely to be out a year after that, so that puts P4A2 in like 3rd from the get go.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

you set up a triangle around the people with hero actions, and then you have them run, and u shoot while they're running.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

So I guess the hype lasted for a little more than a whole weekend, lol.

loketest done >

The hype is dead D:

I need to see moar Yukiko

 

[sakuraZaKi]

just finished SMTIV with a neutral end.

Good stuff and totally fun. though, going neutral probably spoiled me the events of Law/Chaos lol

still making a new save though.

 

[Jam Stunna]

So I guess the hype lasted for a little more than a whole weekend, lol.

My hupe is still through the roof, but there's not much to comment on for the time being.

 

[Zankoku]

It was Sega, after all.

 

[Minato]

I'm ok with the decision. As long as Sega Sammy doesn't force Atlus to do too much mobile or pachinko related things and that Atlus USA still exists, I'll be ok.

 

[Delicious Tears]

Needs more Adachi

 

[Minato]

Reading more into it, it looks like it really is a subsidiary of Sega instead of Sega Sammy. I'm really not too thrilled about this now, especially with the thought of restructuring and the choices they'll make over Atlus.