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Afro Smash

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Samus Vs Mario is really fun imo, but cape and frame data and air speed make it definitely not in our favour
 

Wald0

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What to do with a good Zelda? She always seems to get me every time I play her. Her nair is great since it can spike on 2 or third hit her reflector stays out for longer than you'd think and her teleport has invisible hitboxes. Am I missing some easy solution to beat her or what?
 

Vyrnx

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Oct 11, 2014
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What to do with a good Zelda? She always seems to get me every time I play her. Her nair is great since it can spike on 2 or third hit her reflector stays out for longer than you'd think and her teleport has invisible hitboxes. Am I missing some easy solution to beat her or what?
Zair pretty much beats Zelda. She has bad mobility so we can wall her out pretty easily. Nayru's end lag is really hard to punish with CS, it's possible, but sometimes it's better to go for a grab since it's safer.
 

Scream

Smash Apprentice
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Jan 28, 2015
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I'm a pretty good player, so I'm honestly cringing to know what I don't know. My MU knowledge is near opposite of yours.
What exactly do you mean by "pretty good player" and why do you feel the need to state such a thing?

Mario is one of our hardest MU's there is no denying it. If you think otherwise please educate me on how to deal with him or refer me to a place where you did.

Getting rid of Luma is key to the Rosaluma MU and i do it mostly with Uptilt. Then continue to pressure safely and push her into a corner.
One read is all it takes to ged rid of her.
As a plus RaR bair, Nair OoS and Upsmash all hit her standing.
 
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Hark17ball

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What exactly do you mean by "pretty good player" and why do you feel the need to state such a thing?

Mario is one of our hardest MU's there is no denying it. If you think otherwise please educate me on how to deal with him or refer me to a place where you did.

Getting rid of Luma is key to the Rosaluma MU and i do it mostly with Uptilt. Then continue to pressure safely and push her into a corner.
One read is all it takes to ged rid of her.
As a plus RaR bair, Nair OoS and Upsmash all hit her standing.
Any ideal stages to bring her or keep away from? My monthly has a really good Rosa player... I 3-0 him in Losers finals but it took aaaalot of work haha. We played Smashville, Delfino and BF, was thinking maybe my lack of stage knowledge allowed the games to take longer.

*edit* oh crud I thought it was Matchup Thread, my bad*
 
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Boney

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Don't take her to low ceiling stages like Halberd, Dreamland, T&C or Delfino if you can due to the insane base knockback on Luma. Opposite is true, stages like battlefield, duck hunt might prove beneficial
 

Hark17ball

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Don't take her to low ceiling stages like Halberd, Dreamland, T&C or Delfino if you can due to the insane base knockback on Luma. Opposite is true, stages like battlefield, duck hunt might prove beneficial
Thanks! I'll be sure to strike Delfino & Halberd against him at all times
 

Xygonn

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Dec 12, 2014
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Seattle Area
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What to do with a good Zelda? She always seems to get me every time I play her. Her nair is great since it can spike on 2 or third hit her reflector stays out for longer than you'd think and her teleport has invisible hitboxes. Am I missing some easy solution to beat her or what?
She has no answer for zair at all, like Vyrnx Vyrnx said. Her dash attack is lame, side b get her charge shotted. Just be patient, make her approach, punish her lag.
 

MOM Samus

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Thanks! I'll be sure to strike Delfino & Halberd against him at all times
I two stocked a Rosa by just waiting for her to get on the Halberd platform so I could carry her up to her doom. I told him to stop picking stupid stages like that. All my friends frankly agree that Delfino, Halberd, Castle are not fair stages at all. Pick that Lylat Cruise if you wanna counter Samus/ZSS.

And against Rosalina, pick the biggest stages possible. It's like lockdown on tiny stages like Battlefield and Smashville. Major advantage to Rosalina. Go Omega forms if you can (the actual fair stages).
 
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Annihilat®

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Oct 23, 2015
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^ And now look at what stage is banned. I've been waiting for those stupid stages to get cut.
 
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