Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[Rajam]

Marshy I have no idea why you call me lost.

I simply don't have much time anymore and honestly not that much fun. You have control and J follows you because you target mislynches, and I get to do nothing. The only thing I have left to do is case on J but that takes very long and requires me to go through the entire thread again and I hardly have the time or the will to do it. I've been through every situation and there is no other logical option.

Anyway, why do I have a J scum read?

First of all, Adumb was sent in. That means that someone more important than Adumb pretty much must be in the scumteam. Kary said this already, and I'll say it because while you boys might call it WIFOM, it is what made me originally look into J.

Second of all, the rest of the town. Seph/Marshy/Chibo/Pierce are town bros without dispute. Rajam, John, Kary are good, strong town reads to me. Bardull and Sang are both towny to me, but less so than the other 7.

That leaves J.

Marshy, I'm not voting any wagon while this guy is alive, except maybe maybe Sang, if there's no other choice.
Maybe lynch him first then, if the flips town, I'll follow you into the sun.

Trade J for double vote and extra voice? Avoid me having to go through all this crap just to get my target lynched?

? Why do you affirm this?

 

[#HBC | J]

Or we could just not direct all the PRs.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

u mad j

post coming in a sec

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I still think Kary should be lynched. Flips have reinforced my confidence on lynching him.

Well this is an empty stance.

On second read though, it's a calm reaction from Sang with a wagon at that point of 2 votes of 7 necessary. I like that this is not an over-reaction, which I think is like town would react with a little wagon like this, and considering Kary and BarDulL started at that point being the greater wagons.

For real, why is it a town-tell that Sang didn't over-react?
Surely if she knows it's only her scumbuddy is pushing her then she's more likely to be calm?

Seriously, your stances man. damn.

 

[#HBC | J]

One question since you are a fan of WIFOM, why would I kill Marshy as mafia? Sending the doc/watcher to him make not a lot of sense.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Because marshy is the only one who can lynch you if he sets his mind on it. I can't, apparently.

 

[#HBC | J]

You make no sense.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

your face makes no sense

now let me write this post

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

By the by, the NK sending makes no sense.

Adumb did send the kill in because his partner was better. Think about it.

Say they REALLY thought I would be a vigilante, why would they even bother keeping me alive? They would shoot me.
They had a ninja so they knew there was a watcher/tracker, and probably not a doc. That makes the doc wifom between me and Marshy WAY weaker, because it's probs a watcher wifom.

Now, seeing as they didn't target me, it's fair to believe they didn't think I was a vig. If they did, they would've targetted me, avoid Adumb's death, and risk a watch. Logical.
So, because they didn't think I was a vig, this is not a valid defense:

seph...you pretty much announced to the world that you were shooting adumb. this means the scumteam HAD to send him or risk losing all of their team n1

So yeah.

Sending adumb out makes no sense, except if the other member is a better scummer/in a better position. J fits that.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

inb4 J says I make no sense because buttfrustrated that he's been caught by logical thought process on the bomb.

Or logical PoE.

J is scum guys.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

bbl

 

[#HBC | Kary]

*cue AtE*

I'll be back later.

 

[#HBC | J]

.........?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

@ j

why does sephs logic fail?

 

[CT Chia]

I can smell people trying to lynch me again. This is totally not cool, how do you not have me as town already?
Let me try and push you in the right direction.

Vote: Rajam

His case on me is utter nonsense, and if he wanted me dead he could've hammered me yesterday. I'm willing to push this in lieu of a John waggon, because while John's barely here, Rajam's almost being actively unhelpful.

The first line here is horrid.

Wouldn't you say that Rajam passing up a lynch he could have easily had is pretty town of him?

 

[#HBC | J]

Well it is fundamentally flawed in my eyes because I am town haha but in all honesty I can't really fight the logic in his 1689 because it does make sense but it is like a completely different puzzle for me that Seph is trying to figure out with wrong pieces (like it MUST be me) and trying to rely on NAs>actual play.

 

[CT Chia]

7. Chibo saved my *** so I love him to death eternally. Didn't like that he was like "why are we all switching to Ronike wtf?" though.

The only real reason I was like that was because we were literally right up to the deadline, and I was most worried of us not gathering together in time to make something happen, and it had little discussion compared to the standoff between you and Kary. It wasn't that I was against his lynch, I didn't know what to think of it really since most of my reading and focus were on you and Kary (since you guys were the focus when I came into play).

It's more like...

 

[CT Chia]

Oh boy a wagon?

Vote: Rajam

Ummmm.... ummmm.....

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Well it is fundamentally flawed in my eyes because I am town haha but in all honesty I can't really fight the logic in his 1689 because it does make sense but it is like a completely different puzzle for me that Seph is trying to figure out with wrong pieces (like it MUST be me) and trying to rely on NAs>actual play.

heres a clue: there IS a very huge clue that trashes sephs logic (even if hes right about you) from d1. it was said by a dead player

 

[#HBC | Kary]

The first line here is horrid.

Wouldn't you say that Rajam passing up a lynch he could have easily had is pretty town of him?

1. I know
2. Yes, I actually realised that later on. I mean, it's WIFOM but also pretty town.

Well it is fundamentally flawed in my eyes because I am town haha but in all honesty I can't really fight the logic in his 1689 because it does make sense but it is like a completely different puzzle for me that Seph is trying to figure out with wrong pieces (like it MUST be me) and trying to rely on NAs>actual play.

@J: I seem to remember 'I am town haha' as being a 100% scumtell for you.
Does this affect your read on Seph?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

chibo continues to be by far the best poster in this game

 

[Pierce7d]

I can't believe we still haven't started lynching people yet . . .

 

[#HBC | J]

How is "I am town haha" a scum-tell of mine...? I've heard a various amounts of others but that's a new one.

@Marshy: I'll go and re-check then because I can't recall exactly what you are talking about this time.

 

[#HBC | J]

Seph is too silly to be scum, @Kary.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

dont bother looking for it j. it wont change anything. i guess i might as well reveal it

 

[#HBC | J]

No offense but thanks. xD it's more hellish than I thought playing on my phone and idk how you do it so much.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

adum was testing seph to see if he was the serial killer. there is NOTHING worse than being scum and losing to a bull**** indy and adum seemed tove pegged seph as indy sk. because of this adum would not shoot seph and would instead elect to hit an obvtown power role (adum reads os like a book)

 

[#HBC | marshy]

cuz sks are often bulletproof

 

[#HBC | J]

So you think Seph is SK because of Adumb's death? Tbh, I dont really see that.

Though I can garuntee he is not BP if he is SK.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

seph is town. im saying his reasoning for you being scum (adum not shooting seph) doesnt work due to adumbs very own posts in this game

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Good argument, but it doesn't cut it.

If he did have me pegged as bulletproof, he would've shot me. I am unlynchable, and the SK is by far mafia's biggest threat, so he needs to shoot. They need to shoot my bulletproof off, in that case, the sooner the better.

J http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14583666&postcount=1562
J hints towards knowing more. Scumtell.

Marshy, J's responses to my accusations have been lacking. I even asked you to comment yourself, but you never did ()

I want him to be dead but ugh, this game.

 

[#HBC | J]

How does that post hint to me knowing more?

 

[CT Chia]

For anyone noticing my posts, I am actively reading and catching up. idk what the present vote count is, but no hammers plz. I'm like 5 pages away, almost done then I'll be posting my general thoughts on things n such.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

So you think Seph is SK because of Adumb's death? Tbh, I dont really see that.

Though I can garuntee he is not BP if he is SK.

How does it not? It's pretty much directly saying you know more.

You also said that you had to tell something to marshy but couldn't yet on day 1.

Ugh.

I want you to claim it. If I wouldn't have claimed oneshot I would've had it now.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm sorry but There is no pro-town point to me claiming what I do and do not know at this current time.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

There is, because you're scum.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'll claim if Marshy or Pierce says I should.

 

[CT Chia]

Aight I'm here everyone chillax.

 

[CT Chia]

I'm shocked no one has still died, and this day is starting to drag on a bit lol. However I guess I'm glad that the lynch didn't happen while I was away lol.

Even though it's dragging on, I would like to talk about 2 different things.

1. Rajam and John.

2. Day 1 wagons.

I will be making my post on topic #1 and then a post on topic #2. I'm cool with talking about both simultaneously so we can get through it quicker cause today is starting to fawken sawk lol.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Today sucks because I'm putting a wrench in all lynches. You're all going to have to deal with it until J dies, though.