Social Outer Heaven - Kept You Waiting Huh?! Snake Social Thread

[NonSpecificGuy]

They could just reuse the codecs from Brawl that Campbell was in and use Raiden or someone else for the new characters. I honestly don’t mind them reusing codecs if we get more.

 

[DJDave189]

I'm very happy that Snake returned, he was the one character from Brawl I was hoping to see come back.

 

[Browny]

ftilt does 14% and dthrow does 6%. Those are heavy nerfs from brawl but needed. uptilt still seems to hit like a truck but the range is down.

 

[PapaJ]

ftilt does 14% and dthrow does 6%. Those are heavy nerfs from brawl but needed. uptilt still seems to hit like a truck but the range is down.

It looks like Snake can combo dthrow into utilt/Dsmash(?), and he can tech chase reliably still.

 

[Reila]

They could just reuse the codecs from Brawl that Campbell was in and use Raiden or someone else for the new characters. I honestly don’t mind them reusing codecs if we get more.

Raiden is awesome. I hope he appears somehow. They will likely keep Gray Fox as the Metal Gear Assist Trophy, so a codec is most I can hope for.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I don't think I've posted here in a while, but I'm happy that Snake is back.

 

[zeldasmash]

Looking at the Snake trailer for 1,000th time, I saw that it has 1.2k dislikes compared to 2.1k likes.....how is that possible?

 

[MSmariosonic]

Looking at the Snake trailer for 1,000th time, I saw that it has 1.2k dislikes compared to 2.1k likes.....how is that possible?

That's really odd indeed...

 

[Banjodorf]

Looking at the Snake trailer for 1,000th time, I saw that it has 1.2k dislikes compared to 2.1k likes.....how is that possible?

I dunno; Bayonetta had ~700 likes and 347 dislikes, but damn.

Probsbly just hatebases lashing out. All the “Snake doesn’t belong reeeeee!” people.

**** em though, he’s back.

 

[zeldasmash]

I dunno; Bayonetta had ~700 likes and 347 dislikes, but damn.

Probsbly just hatebases lashing out. All the “Snake doesn’t belong reeeeee!” people.

**** em though, he’s back.

It's just that Snake was the most liked trailer out of all the 65 trailers at one point with only like 2 or 3 dislikes compared to thousands of likes when it came out. It's why I questioned this.

It's either trolling or a bug on Youtube's like system.

EDIT: It also could be that people still really hate Konami.

 

[Davidius]

Looking at the Snake trailer for 1,000th time, I saw that it has 1.2k dislikes compared to 2.1k likes.....how is that possible?

Zero Suit Samus and Snake's videos are getting targeted for their reduced physical assets. It's dumb, but there you go.

 

[zeldasmash]

Zero Suit Samus and Snake's videos are getting targeted for their reduced physical assets. It's dumb, but there you go.

.......people are seriously more concerned about Snake's behind instead of celebrating that the character is back as playable...

 

[SneakyBox]

.......people are seriously more concerned about Snake's behind instead of celebrating that the character is back as playable...

I saw one guy complain that snakes’s face was too similar to Big Boss.

 

[cmbsfm]

I saw one guy complain that snakes’s face was too similar to Big Boss.

It’s been like that since Brawl though .

But yeah it must be some dislike botting or whatever. It’s really dumb.

 

[mechmaster90]

ftilt does 14% and dthrow does 6%. Those are heavy nerfs from brawl but needed. uptilt still seems to hit like a truck but the range is down.

Judging from some videos on Youtube (like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTV9gYrJW9w), it looks like the range on his ftilt has been largely reduced too, still powerful though. Haven't seen downtilt yet, decreased knockback on his jab combo too, new downsmash seems pretty fast. No DACUS either

 

[zeldasmash]

Up Tilt still looks good, it's just not busted like in Brawl.

Honestly, knockback should be taken with a grain of salt because the knockback of the build looks really wonky.

 

[lanky_gunner]

Got my main back!!

I still think it's appropriate regarding Snake's placement in the trailer, with the music getting intense and his intro showcasing everyone was coming back.

Can't wait to start cookin' nades and winnin' games.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I didn't talk that much back in the days of smash 4 character speculation, but i was rooting for Snake the entire time despite the naysayers.

I know I'm a few days late, and i haven't posted in over 4 years, but I'm so happy that snake is back and I'm happy for all of y'all.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Is there any word on if Snake has new taunts?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I've seen the box taunt but that's it. Don't know if there was multiple of those or not.

 

[PapaJ]

So this is just speculation but Snake might actually have a broken combo.

This is based of the information we can only airdodge once.

If Snake sticks an enemy with C4 and get's a uthrow the enemy can only dodge once. If snake can bait it out they will be hit with C4, which is a kill move around 90~ even moreso since they're in the air.

I guess people can argue landing a sticky C4 and a uthrow should award Snake, but if it gets out of hand it could be nerfed.

If anyone went to E3 and messed with the game I'd love some info on if the airdodge thing is true, and if stuck C4 does less KB or something.

 

[zeldasmash]

Basically a guaranteed 50/50 of a throw. Kinda sounds like Pre-patch Sheik.

 

[MarioMeteor]

I'm very proud of ourselves, that we never give up hope on Snake's return. Many people doubt on his return in Smash, but Sakurai proved them wrong. I'm so happy to finally see him in glorious HD officially.

So, maybe we can have this fight after all.:

vs.

You know Corrin's voice actor is the voice actor of Liquid Snake and Master Miller.

Cam Clarke has such good range. You couldn’t tell that he’s Liquid by listening to his Corrin, and vice-versa.

Unfortunately, every time I hear Clarke voicing a role I can’t help but imagine Master Miller. Curse you, Metal Gear Solid.

So this is just speculation but Snake might actually have a broken combo.

This is based of the information we can only airdodge once.

If Snake sticks an enemy with C4 and get's a uthrow the enemy can only dodge once. If snake can bait it out they will be hit with C4, which is a kill move around 90~ even moreso since they're in the air.

I guess people can argue landing a sticky C4 and a uthrow should award Snake, but if it gets out of hand it could be nerfed.

If anyone went to E3 and messed with the game I'd love some info on if the airdodge thing is true, and if stuck C4 does less KB or something.

You can air dodge multiple times, I’m pretty sure.

 

[PapaJ]

Cam Clarke has such good range. You couldn’t tell that he’s Liquid by listening to his Corrin, and vice-versa.

Unfortunately, every time I hear Clarke voicing a role I can’t help but imagine Master Miller. Curse you, Metal Gear Solid.

Off topic but he actually voiced like a CEO in "Grandma got ran over by a reindeer"

It's jarring as all hell, but makes it so funny for some reason

 

[MarioMeteor]

Off topic but he actually voiced like a CEO in "Grandma got ran over by a reindeer"

It's jarring as all hell, but makes it so funny for some reason

He was Thor in a Marvel game (I think it was Ultimate Alliance or something) and it was literally just Master Miller’s voice coming out of Thor’s mouth.

Like if Liquid Snake became a little more ambitious and decided to become a thunder god instead of just wanting kill his brother.

 

[Reila]

Zero Suit Samus and Snake's videos are getting targeted for their reduced physical assets. It's dumb, but there you go.

It is not dumb, it is fitting for the character, at least in Samus' case. It makes no sense for her body to look the way it did in Smash 4 given her "profession" as a bounty hunter. Cry me a river if you will, you can always look for porn of her if you miss her old body so much. Her new, more muscular and fit body actually fits the woman named Samus. And she still is as gorgeous as ever.

Don't really see the point in changing Snake's butt since it was more funny than anything. Not to mention those butts are kinda part of Metal Gear Solid. Rising Revegeance is basically Male Butts: The game. Then again without the old final smash, what is the point of having that butt.

Edit: Also, Bayonetta's body is the same as ever. And you know why? It fits her. Her sexuality is a big part of what defines the character and her looks go well along with it. That is not the case for Samus Aran.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

People can't be THAT serious over his ass, can they?

 

[zeldasmash]

People can't be THAT serious over his ***, can they?

While I do agree it's stupid, I think it's because people think it's censorship. Since this game is geared more towards E-Sports with some of the stuff it has included (the 1 v 1 format is the biggest example), they likely toned it down for that.

Still doesn't make sense to hate on their trailers. Snake went from the most liked trailer to one of the most disliked and Zero Suit Samus has more dislikes then likes.

 

[MarioMeteor]

People can't be THAT serious over his ***, can they?

It was a pretty spectacular man-ass, and the impact of its loss is, much like the ass itself, sizable.

 

[cmbsfm]

It is not dumb, it is fitting for the character, at least in Samus' case. It makes no sense for her body to look the way it did in Smash 4 given her "profession" as a bounty hunter. Cry me a river if you will, you can always look for porn of her if you miss her old body so much. Her new, more muscular and fit body actually fits the woman named Samus. And she still is as gorgeous as ever.

Don't really see the point in changing Snake's butt since it was more funny than anything. Not to mention those butts are kinda part of Metal Gear Solid. Rising Revegeance is basically Male Butts: The game. Then again without the old final smash, what is the point of having that butt.

Edit: Also, Bayonetta's body is the same as ever. And you know why? It fits her. Her sexuality is a big part of what defines the character and her looks go well along with it. That is not the case for Samus Aran.

Davidius meant it was dumb that people were targeting their videos for that reason, not that the assets were reduced.

 

[Ultinarok]

Wolf main from Brawl dropping in to high five the Snake players on the return of our old favorites! Congrats guys! With the Kojima situation I seriously thought Snake would never be able to come back. But Sakurai worked some magic for us all I guess.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

So happy. Even though his legendary series is for all intents and purposes dead, Snake will live on is Smash.

 

[SneakyBox]

Wolf main from Brawl dropping in to high five the Snake players on the return of our old favorites! Congrats guys! With the Kojima situation I seriously thought Snake would never be able to come back. But Sakurai worked some magic for us all I guess.

Not to be rude, but I always wanted to know why there was a huge demand to bring Wolf back. I thought he was just a clone of fox but obviously I’m missing something.

 

[StormC]

Not to be rude, but I always wanted to know why there was a huge demand to bring Wolf back. I thought he was just clone of fox but obviously I’m missing something.

His specials are similar, but the rest of his attacks and animations are (mostly) unique. He's a cool character and plays quite differently from the other spacies, and it's looking like he'll be even more different in Ultimate. Wolf does reuse some assets from Fox/Falco - Sakurai says by doing so he could make the character in about 70% of the time it takes normally - but calling him "just a clone" is not really the whole story. He's far more unique than any Melee/4 clone.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Has anyone seen a reaction from Kojima about Snake's inclusion?

I couldn't find any tweet mentioning it whatsoever

 

[Davidius]

It is not dumb, it is fitting for the character, at least in Samus' case. It makes no sense for her body to look the way it did in Smash 4 given her "profession" as a bounty hunter. Cry me a river if you will, you can always look for porn of her if you miss her old body so much. Her new, more muscular and fit body actually fits the woman named Samus. And she still is as gorgeous as ever.

Don't really see the point in changing Snake's butt since it was more funny than anything. Not to mention those butts are kinda part of Metal Gear Solid. Rising Revegeance is basically Male Butts: The game. Then again without the old final smash, what is the point of having that butt.

Edit: Also, Bayonetta's body is the same as ever. And you know why? It fits her. Her sexuality is a big part of what defines the character and her looks go well along with it. That is not the case for Samus Aran.

I wasn't referring to the cosmetic changes themselves, I was referring to people making a point to dislike the videos for it.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

It is not dumb, it is fitting for the character, at least in Samus' case. It makes no sense for her body to look the way it did in Smash 4 given her "profession" as a bounty hunter. Cry me a river if you will, you can always look for porn of her if you miss her old body so much. Her new, more muscular and fit body actually fits the woman named Samus. And she still is as gorgeous as ever.

I mean, she basically look like this to begin with, so I see her "new" body as being really more like a return to how she looked like.

 

[Ultinarok]

Not to be rude, but I always wanted to know why there was a huge demand to bring Wolf back. I thought he was just a clone of fox but obviously I’m missing something.

The others have kind of already mentioned it but. He was barely a clone in Brawl, only sharing a FS, ledge attack and get up attack with Fox and Falco, while his specials were heavily modified concepts of theirs. His blaster was cooler, his side B illusion was the most fun to use by far, his standard attacks were wicked and unique, and he had a lot of personality. Also sick voice.

People have been vouching for Pichu and Young Link all this time too, and they were more clones than Wolf was. Every former character is going to be desirable to someone. But yeah, when Wolf disappeared, there was really no one who played like him anymore (no lunging FSmash, double hitbox meteor, side B with an apex effect, high air speed and walk speed with slow dashing, no projectile that had both range and a melee effect). His presence was missed because there was no other fighter quite like him.

 

[zeldasmash]

Snake has a new black color. I think it could be a reference to his MGS1 suit.

 

[Nonno Umby]

Snake has a new black color. I think it could be a reference to his MGS1 suit.

It seems to be based on the Black Camo from MGS3, just like all the other alts

Apparently he also has one based on the Leaf Camo, but I have yet to find a screenshot of it...