SixSaw
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Your profile says you're 19 years old. You think your experiences with the teenage girls in your small piece of the world are really indicative of anything?That's funny because most of these "sexist" thoughts that I give out, the only times I really get intense criticism from it is from men. Most women I talk to generally don't have a problem with it (in fact, they usually agree), because it isn't out of malevolence..
-i didn't put words into your mouth. i paraphrased this, palwhatever
-i never said you r*ped anyone but you DO sound like someone who would. your example of the conversation where you disregard a "no" followed by your quote earlier "i never take things girls say at face value." IS a r*pist mentality and if you aren't a r*pist you should rethink acting like thatThat assumes women want to rule the world, lead armies, invent new branches of science, explore and learn about the universe, build themselves prosperous businesses that earn them billions of dollars, all ultimately in the search of status, contribution to the species, and respect.
While certainly just about every guy drools over things like that, it really doesn't do it for most women. Not to say that there aren't any out there, but for the vast majority? Not really.
If by sexist, you mean a person who sees both sexes as being different, then you bet your ass. Difference is I'm not being a total douche and telling the world "All women are lying sluts, don't believe a thing they say". I love women. I look out for them (though not to the extent of white-knighting), I care for them, and I like seeing them happy.Christ, Vash, your anecdotal evidence of your female friends who totally don't have a problem with you denying that they have agency or could have traits that you don't identify as feminine has completely convinced me that you're not a sexist stereotyping sack of stool with a detestably narrow-minded worldview.
I guess it's because you're so good at telling women what they should think or decide. Weak-minded men like me need folks like you to step in and rescue us from the muddle of our own indecisive minds from time to time as well. Thanks!
I know far more than you would think, SmashFromThePast.Your profile says you're 19 years old. You think your experience with the teenage girls in your small piece of the world is really indicative of anything?
If you think you can get away with making decisions for all the women you come across because they can't decide anything themselves, you are sadly mistaken. You better hope you never come across a female boss, or a female professor, or any female with any sort of power over you because if you treat them that way, you're going to have opportunities squashed. You will lose many girlfriends/end up as a divorce statistic if they feel like you are a control-freak in your relationship. You'll get in deep trouble with the law if you attempt that "I know what you really want" BS in the wrong situation.
And yet you truly, sincerely believe that if a girl doesn't want to go to a party, she's just a confused duckling who needs to be told what she actually wants to do by someone who is actually decisive because he's a man and that give him the right to dictate her actions.I look out for them (though not to the extent of white-knighting), I care for them, and I like seeing them happy.
Like I told Smash, PM. I'll get to process my thoughts better at least.And yet you truly, sincerely believe that if a girl doesn't want to go to a party, she's just a confused duckling who needs to be told what she actually wants to do by someone who is actually decisive because he's a man and that give him the right to dictate her actions.
And you don't get how that's an absurd, toxic and sexist mentality to have.
Can't help you there, dude.
Sure.Like I told Smash, PM. I'll get to process my thoughts better at least.
I didn't mean any of what I said in a spiteful way, but I insist on finishing this convo. Call it an exercise in catharsis for me so I know you won't look at me in disgust every time you see one of my posts, because I always thought you were a cool dude.No thank you. I have no interest in discussing this further. I'll treat women the way I feel is best, and you do your thing. Good luck to you
oh wow a guy on the internet claiming that his many girl friends are totally okay with how sexist he is wow I've never seen that before no sir
Like this right here. Is it that hard to believe that women who wouldn't take that **** or the guys that would simply don't end up becoming friends with you? Is it so silly to think that your expectations or what you "like" from others is going to effect who you are able to get close with to the point where you see these trends? Do you even try talking like that to guys in the first place?Kinda hard to give a good one off the top my head, so I apologize if it's bad.
"What's up Mike? You ready for the party tonight?"
"Ehh I don't know... I'm feeling pretty tired..."
"Hey it's cool man. You change your mind, text me so I can tell you where it is."
"Ah right, thanks dude!"
Whatever, not gonna force him. He's a man, he can make his own decisions. If he wants to come later, he will. If not, that's fine too.
"Hey Emily! You good for the party tonight?"
"I really don't know, I'm feeling kinda tired....."
"Well that's too bad, because you're coming anyway."
"What?"
"You heard me. You're coming, be ready at 9."
"haha Don't I get a say in this?"
"Make sure you dress sexy too. Something that shows off that ***."
"You're crazy."
"See you tonight."
She didn't make a decision, so I'll make it for her. Women often don't like making decisions, so they'll do anything to avoid it by giving half answers. If she really didn't want to go, she would've just said it. So I'll make it easy for her, be a man, and lead her, even if it means coming off bullish. When you pick her up later that evening, 8 times outta 10, she's gonna be ready anyway. I never take things girls say at face value.
Yeah, it's not like if we're welcoming to new players instead the community will grow a lot faster and be able to take advantage of its recent resurgence into the spotlightBut judging from what I've heard, all players in the competitive scene get trash talked until they prove themselves as ready to play with the big dogs, but you just have to ignore it and do what you came to do. Same applies to girls.
I've always treated women Smashers the same as men. Play the match, crush them (or be crushed), trash talk, say GGs and move on to my next bracket match. Anything more or less is doing them a disservice.
These, except I don't trash talk when I play XD.Everything turns into some social issue now. I don't care about your gender just play the game.
it's not ad hominem, the poster i was referring to's mentality of not taking women seriously is a huge part of the problem, what person would want to join a community they know they'll be constantly belittled in? women should be taken just as seriously as any guy should and part of the reason our female demographic is near nonexistent is because that isn't the case. as for specifically saying he sounded like a r*pist, it's not an insult, i'm just saying that that mentality is genuinely very dangerous and i've seen plenty of people who felt similarly end up taking it a step too far*a lot of stuff*
was this meant to be insulting or can you just not readblah blah blah homestruck blah blah blah ableism adds little to the conversation blah blah blah whatever
just treat them (women, or anyone who isn't part of the male gaming majority) the same way you'd treat anyone else. they don't play smash to be belittled or discriminated against nor do they play smash for special treatment or pity. if you see someone being a **** you can tell them to stop but treating someone especially well simply because they're not a typical male gamer is unnecessary and usually weirdIn any of these issues I very much would like to know the proper approach
it might prove a point that no one actually gives a shit so we can stop caring. so yeah sure, let's try it.Should we start making male inferiority jokes every time we notice a dude sux?
it's the truth though, and you should operate based on your observations.If I think men and woman have different roles in a relationship, I'm sexist. If I say men and women have different natural interests, I'm sexist. If I say men and women have different skills and capabilities, I'm sexist.
It's pathetic.
Women are already equal and the only ones who dont believe that are feministsYou're incorrect. Feminism pushes for equality for females, which is something that doesn't exist currently. Like any cause, there is a small and somewhat vocal minority which believes that females must have the upper hand of the power balance in order for men to realize the value of equality, and thus attain equality. that group is a definite minority and they only believe so because they feel that powerful women would result in greater equality eventually.
You are correct, yes there would be, because any time there is inequality there are always efforts to change it, and the fact that women want equality is not a negative trait.
I've always treated women Smashers the same as men. Play the match, crush them (or be crushed), trash talk, say GGs and move on to my next bracket match. Anything more or less is doing them a disservice.
The "don't take them too seriously" is a watered-down version of the mentality I have because I have no other way to describe it. I still treat them with the same basic respect I give to everyone else. Unless you consider light-hearted teasing as belittling, in which case you should probably get off the computer and see how the sexes interact with each other in real life before donning your white armor and rushing to the rescue.it's not ad hominem, the poster i was referring to's mentality of not taking women seriously is a huge part of the problem, what person would want to join a community they know they'll be constantly belittled in? women should be taken just as seriously as any guy should and part of the reason our female demographic is near nonexistent is because that isn't the case. as for specifically saying he sounded like a r*pist, it's not an insult, i'm just saying that that mentality is genuinely very dangerous and i've seen plenty of people who felt similarly end up taking it a step too far
Literally explain just this in my first dang post on this thread on the first page. But of course, you attacked me anyway. You're the last stop on the proverbial clue train and have just been content with running your mouth.just treat them (women, or anyone who isn't part of the male gaming majority) the same way you'd treat anyone else. they don't play smash to be belittled or discriminated against nor do they play smash for special treatment or pity. if you see someone being a **** you can tell them to stop but treating someone especially well simply because they're not a typical male gamer is unnecessary and usually weird
nothing says emotional maturity like "i don't want to talk about it" in a condescending manner. if you're not prepared to consider what your peers have to say respectfully, don't get involved in the first place.No thank you. I have no interest in discussing this further. I'll treat women the way I feel is best, and you do your thing. Good luck to you