Old games or new games?

[MetaZone]

I often think that question with my friends. Which are better old or new games? Let's talk about old and new games.

I gotta say that I like more old games like Warcraft 1 orcs and humans, Monkey Islands, Super marios, Commander Keens, Megamans etc. I'm big fan of old games. I have very old computer and I can play really old games on it. I have NES and nowadays you can dowload emulator on computer and play some old games.

Anyway. So I ask you again. Which games you like more? Old games or new games?

It's like NES, Atari, Dos-games, Snes vs Xbox, Playstation, Wii.

 

[Dash_Fox]

Old games will always be better.

The last good generation so far was the N64 and PS1 days.

 

[PhillipthaGoober]

The old Super Mario games are the best

 

[Plazma]

If I could choose between playing the old classics for the rest of my life or newer games I would choose the classics and I think most people would, even though this means giving up smash, unless n64 is included in this list

 

[Firus]

Yeah, N64/PS1 is probably the last good generation, but I think I'll make an exception for GameCube as well.

But older games win. My favorite systems of all time are definitely SNES and Sega Genesis. I can hardly enjoy some of the newer games anymore. But when I go and play games like Super Metroid or any of the retro Sonic games, I feel so alive, so great. I mean, they're awesome games. Perhaps it's my nostalgia speaking, but the retro Sonic games are just awesome. Nowadays, Nintendo and Sega are both screwing over the best games. We'll probably never see a 2D Metroid game again, Sonic is doomed to be sucky for eternity, Pokemon is so overloaded with Pokemon (especially water types and legendaries) that it's going downhill...I could go on. The point is, these perfect franchises are dying now, thanks to what Nintendo likes to call innovation. They wouldn't know what innovation is if it interrupted their Wii Fit and Brain Age-playing sessions and slapped them in the face.

Even Smash Bros, a franchise that I loved and adored at the Melee level, is now a piece of crap. Brawl is a sad excuse for a video game. Sakurai killed the series because he wanted us to all become mindless drones and play how he wants us to. Well guess what; we've still got Melee.

All in all, new games will never hold the same magic that old games did. Every game has to have a purpose. Games used to be just for having fun. Now the Wii was made to bring families together (which it doesn't), help you become fit, and put four fingers down to true gamers, bringing in casual gamers.

Game companies are so obsessed with appealing to new audiences that they forget their old audience. We're either supposed to adapt to the new type of gaming or be screwed. Well, I'm not investing any more money into any of their new games until I see some improvement. If I invest any money in a new game, I'll probably rent it. I have low expectations for games these days.

 

[Cubemario]

Buying a PS3 has renewed my interest in new games. I was losing faith in new games with hardly anything good coming on the PC and the wii being a 250 dollar white brick and my DS being a black brick that I only played GBA games on.

The PS3 renewed my faith. Of course, I still play old games all the time.

 

[Hyper_Ridley]

I don't think it's as black as white as "either old games are beter OR new games are better". I think
Super Mario Bros 3 is the best Mario game, but I think Metroid Prime 3 is the best Metroid game.

Also, while the old generations did have some awesome games, they were also the generations that gave us E.T and Superman 64.

 

[GreenKirby]

Old/new games is so relative, it's not even funny.

Pretty soon, this generation will be cosidered part of the 'old' games as well.
In the 1980s to early 1990s, the 'old' games were actually 'new' games back then.

 

[Tomato Kirby]

I don't think it's as black as white as "either old games are beter OR new games are better". I think
Super Mario Bros 3 is the best Mario game, but I think Metroid Prime 3 is the best Metroid game.

Also, while the old generations did have some awesome games, they were also the generations that gave us E.T and Superman 64.

This is the best post I have read for old-new game matters.

 

[~rh]

Old games will always be better.

The last good generation so far was the N64 and PS1 days.

Exactly how I feel.

 

[PD4FR]

It doesn't matter if it is old or new, it just matters how fun the game is.

I really like the N64 though.

 

[Firus]

Old/new games is so relative, it's not even funny.

Pretty soon, this generation will be cosidered part of the 'old' games as well.
In the 1980s to early 1990s, the 'old' games were actually 'new' games back then.

Well you can make your own decisions on what you consider old and new. And you should probably understand what we mean. N64/PS1 is probably the last generation that can be considered old. I think Gamecube was still a great system, but it's not exactly considered old.

I don't think it's as black as white as "either old games are beter OR new games are better". I think
Super Mario Bros 3 is the best Mario game, but I think Metroid Prime 3 is the best Metroid game.

Also, while the old generations did have some awesome games, they were also the generations that gave us E.T and Superman 64.

*GASP* Blasphemy. Super Metroid is the best Metroid game, hands down.

There are some good newer games, but I find myself liking many more retro games than newer games. Franchises have gone in directions that I dislike and they'll never return to the old days. Just about every franchise has drifted from 2D, but Sonic and Metroid are probably best in 2D. Metroid certainly is. I love the Metroid Prime games, but...the 2D games just have a nicer feel to them. So it's not necessarily black and white (although it pretty much is to me; I've lost most of my faith in Nintendo's video game creating abilities since the Wii).

As for remembering the bad games we got back in the old days, keep in mind we've also gotten Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Metroid Prime Hunters, a whole bunch of horrible DK games (they used to be good!), Halo (a.k.a. the most overrated game in the history of the world), and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. And those are just naming the main franchises. But there are surely a whole ton of REALLY BAD obscure games like that. Plus, there's always movie games of today, and as we know, 90% of movie games turn out to be really bad.

 

[Nesveri]

Depends what is old or new. I'm really dissapointed on this console era. The worst I think. (Dunno about games before NES so much.) The best games were seen on GC/PS2/XB gen (my opinion again blaah blaah...). SNES would be the second and N64 and NES have tough fight.

Also in handhelds I prefer old. GBA has awesome games but there is two (2, 二) games interesting me on DS. And let's not forget GB/GBC.

If GC is new, it's a hard question. If GC is old now, I say old of course.

 

[SharkAttack]

Older games Rock.

I'm a major supporter of the old games. I remember growing up in the mid-90's playing SNES. Who doesn't like games like Super Mario World, Donkey Kong Country, The Megamans...etc. I never realized how classic and awsome these games where until I one day traded my SNES and nearly all my previous games for an N64 all because it was the newer console. After awhile I missed these games very badly and ended up buying a SNES a few years later. It felt great playing Super Mario All Stars again when I got it back in 2001 after giving it up in 1999. Man was I stupid for giving it up.
I hadn't played much SNES games in the past 2 yrs, but this last weekend when I visited my cousins house we dished out their SNES and played MegaMan X 1 and 2 along with The Adventures of Batman. These were games we were unsucessfully able to beat back around 1997ish. We were able to beat Mega Man X1 and Batman and were happy to end their 11 year droughts. I'm looking to purchase some SNES games shortly such as Tetris Attack and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Tournament Fighters.
These games have never truely died and will always remain awsome. It never gets old throwing MechaKoopas at a Bowser hoovering in the air in a baloon or beating Chill Penguin on Mega Man X.
None of the new games appeal to me at all. Other than Brawl there probabally isn't gowing to be a Wii game that I'll like. Maybe a sports game; but that's it. In fact the only thing better about the newer games are the Sports because you don't get rediculous scores like 144-70 in Madden 08 like you do in Madden 95 and for the most part don't win hockey games 30-23 in NHL 08 like you do in NHL 95. Not only this, but the newer games have more modes such as dynasty and can do more involving plays and manuvers of players.

 

[derek.haines]

The DS restored my faith in new games, and the Wii cemented it. I still do a great deal of retro gaming, but suddenly I realized that the future was much brighter than it once appeared.

I would choose new games because of the increased storytelling complexity, which is my primary draw in games 9 times out of ten. Old games can have fun plots, but even the best among them seem a bit dated nowadays (making notable exceptions for the SNES Final Fantasy games, among others).

 

[Tank McCannon]

I like games that don't suck. Age has nothing to do with anything.

 

[rhan]

Old games/systems will always be better. I grew up on the SNES and Genesis. I love the Wii for letting me relive the old days. Back when Sonic games we're great. Back when Mario games we're simple jump and run.
Back when a 6 year old was the bomb for owning a genesis. Yeah....dem was the good ol' days.

 

[Red Exodus]

If I *had* to choose I'd choose new because getting to someone else's house here is a pain in the *** so online is a real life-saver, but otherwise I don't split myself between old and new, I just play what I like regardless of age but I tend to find it very hard to go back after being spoiled by newer technologies.

 

[Deleted member]

I prefer old games more, but new games are also good.

 

[Firus]

This, this, and this are why I hate new games. Old games for the epic win, new games for the epic lose.

 

[derek.haines]

This, this, and this are why I hate new games. Old games for the epic win, new games for the epic lose.

Retro gaming is fine, but isn't living in the past unreasonable? Eventually, one could theoretically run out of "new" content playing nothing but old games, and never be able to experience anything new. A bit like the episode of Futurama when Fry bought all of the '90s memorabilia to reconstruct his shattered life. He could revisit the past, but it was impossible to live in it....

That said, I love retro games. I'm with everyone here who said "I play games that are fun", and that very much means playing some old ones.

 

[Firus]

I'm not saying I hate ALL new games. Just most of them. And actually, I've gotten quite a bit of replay value out of Metroid Fusion, just doing Speed/1% runs; it's not necessarily an OLD game, but it's certainly not new anymore. I'm sure that I could do the same type of thing with many retro games--once I've run through Super Metroid enough times to become very familiar with it, I may try the same type of thing. I don't live in the past, I'm forced to retreat to my old games because of a lack of any decent Sonic games recently, and 90% of Nintendo's franchises going downhill, along with their entire system with crap like Wii Music.

I do play games that are fun. That said, I enjoy retro games more. I don't automatically say "I won't play this game, it's new." it's that the selection of new games, for the most part, is awful.

And living in the past, (which I don't really do, but) while not necessarily the healthiest way to live, is how I like to live. I'm a very nostalgic person. I don't really think it's unreasonable to live playing the games that I truly enjoy.

Just to clear up any confusion, most of the "new" games that I'm talking about are games from this generation. Sonic died last generation, but Nintendo died this generation.

 

[Modest_Egoist]

Even though I grew up on the SNES and Genesis, I really don't see the need to choose between "old" or "new". Every generation has had its **** ups along with its great games. It's just a matter of personal taste.

 

[derek.haines]

Even though I grew up on the SNES and Genesis, I really don't see the need to choose between "old" or "new". Every generation has had its **** ups along with its great games. It's just a matter of personal taste.

That's an excellent way to look at it.

And, for gamers who prefer retro gaming, there'll always be games made in that vein (alot of the XBLA games channel the retro spirit, I've heard).

 

[PKNessEB]

Even though I grew up on the SNES and Genesis, I really don't see the need to choose between "old" or "new". Every generation has had its **** ups along with its great games. It's just a matter of personal taste.

Yeah,that's true.New or old doesn't matter,Every game has it's ups & downs.
I grew up 1st with the NES,Genesis,& SNES.Then the list grew from there.

Alot of games from retro console/arcades are on XBOX Live like Street Fighters,Puzzle Fighters,Soul Calibur,Joust & the first 2 Genesis Sonic games.I've seen those along with more as my bro was looking through the downloads.

 

[PKNessEB]

This, this, and this are why I hate new games. Old games for the epic win, new games for the epic lose.

1.That game only looks cool to me right now.
2.I don't know what's Nintendo thinking there other then skipping it.
3.No Comments for Wii Fit

 

[Otakuchin]

We still will look back on our past experiences with old games and think that it was the best but, i can look on now and think of a couple games that brought that same feeling to me when i played them.

Seeing that the industry has grown ten fold since our classic days of course your gunna see titles that dont intrest you and titles that wow you. As Modest_Egoist said its all personal tast.

 

[SkylerOcon]

I like games that don't suck. Age has nothing to do with anything.

Um...

Is this the only smart person in the thread, or what?

 

[Firus]

That's an excellent way to look at it.

And, for gamers who prefer retro gaming, there'll always be games made in that vein (alot of the XBLA games channel the retro spirit, I've heard).

Still, nothing can truly capture what games used to be. That day and age is over, unfortunately, and games have to be more advanced than they used to be now. And you know, all of the casuals are out there going "WE LOVE NINTENDO BECAUSE THEY MAKE COOL GAMES WITH MOTION CENSORS". All of that good stuff.

We still will look back on our past experiences with old games and think that it was the best but, i can look on now and think of a couple games that brought that same feeling to me when i played them.

Seeing that the industry has grown ten fold since our classic days of course your gunna see titles that dont intrest you and titles that wow you. As Modest_Egoist said its all personal tast.

But see, it's not just because of the experiences or anything. I honestly believe that the games from Sega Genesis, SNES, Gameboy, etc. are great. Nothing will ever beat them, in my opinion, no matter how much good graphics are thrown at the game, no matter how much motion sensor is stuck into the game, no matter how great a plot is that is put into a game, classics like Super Metroid, Pokemon Red/Blue, and Sonic 3 & Knuckles will be some of the greatest games out there for me.

 

[SharkAttack]

I like the old games alot because of the general 2D style of game play along with the challenges these games provided. I really wish Nintendo would make more games that were 2D such as another Mario or Donkey Kong game with all new levels instead of a monopoly of 3D games. I only played Super Mario Galaxy for 2 or 3 days and then stopped because of a lack of interest. I can't quite put my finger on it but the game was very boring to me. Maybe because it lacked a challenge? This is my main issue with the newer games. I also like the 2D MegaMan X games better than the 3D ones.

I don't wanna bash all 3D games because there are several good ones such as the 007's, Twisted Metals, Any Sports game..etc. I'm just trying to pinpoint why long running franchises like Mario and Donkey Kong haven't or can't create new games that are as fun and interesting as the old ones. Another reason might be because newer games make you talk to several characters over a long period of time and watch several clips. I like storylines that just get to the point so that the game can be played.

Then again I'm only focusing primarily on a few Nintendo games compared to the thousands of games out there. I guess I'm just a person who's in favor of 2D style of play and wishes alot more games were made this way. It's like someone mentioned earlier. It's fun to play games that are in the current moment because you've never played them before and don't know what to expect as oppose to playing something over and over again and knowing how to beat it from the back of your hand.

There may be many 2D games out there that I might like that I just don't know about. Im not a very heavy gamer like I used to be in the 90's (Obviously times change and you have priorities) I've been long wanting to play a brand new 2D game like a Mario, Donkey Kong or Mega Man instead of resulting to the old games that I know by heart. It would be nice to experience something new with an older playstyle. I'm not saying stop making 3D games; but have more 2D. Improved graphics make any game better; however the style and moveset of the game are the most important aspects though and as long as these are good the game will be good. The only problem is would the general public of gamers who are casual and competitive play these kind of games. Obviously if the answer is no then these games would not be created because they would lose money. Is this perhaps the main reason behind the lack of creating new games in the style of the classics?

 

[The Fail Tracer]

The older games are currently better than the stuff I've been seeing in stores lately. Some of the new games are pretty good, too. Mostly the old games, though.