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Ryuutakeshi

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So, um... are there combos in this game? I think there are combos in this game.

That is ridiculous.
 
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Enderwoman

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this is why samus is the best forever. thats my girl
 
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A Lucky Person

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Either Nintendo needs to patch this or we need to go ahead and ban ZSS.

Garbage like this is what helped ruined Brawl competitively (alone with LOL Meta Knight).

EDIT: Since it only works on Robin I'm retracting my call for a ban. I spoke too soon. ;}
 
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ph00tbag

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Translated the description. Pretty straightforward.

ZSS on Robin, previously only possible on ROB and similarly shaped characters.
Dsmash or Charged Paralyzer > Footstool > Uncharaged otg Paralyzer > Fully Charged Dsmash or Charged Paralyzer > Footstool...
For a certain distance, footstooled characters cannot tech. Uncharged otg Paralyzer forces standing wake-up.

Of note, it seems like the dair isn't necessary this time? Maybe the poster forgot to mention it.
 

Rybaia

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The same exact infinite existed in Brawl on ROB.
It's extremely situational and hard to pull off both mechanically and set up wise.
If it comes out be broken and auto-win in tournaments (I really don' think it will be the case) just ban it (the infinite) and go on with the games. No need to freak out.
Call already a ban on ZSS just for this is silly, expecially since we lived in a world of braindead IC's chaingrabs.
 
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Rybaia

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There is a guy suggesting that option in this very thread.
Next time I'll quote.
Btw I would be courious to know if he forgot about the dair or it's not necessary.
If it's not necessary that makes things alot easyer.
 

Untouch

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I've seen multiple people saying you can roll after being footstooled in Smash 4.0, I'll need to see more evidence that you can't escape this.
 

Kef

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I wouldn't mind the infinite. It looks to need a pretty situational setup + it might have character specific requirements.
 

KingBroly

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Sounds like Nintendo picked the wrong Samus to bet on.
well...when Sakurai played up ZSS as being bad in Brawl compared to PSS, when everyone knew otherwise...you knew something was up. Then he called PSS the strongest at the E3 Invitational, only to have ZSS win. It's pretty funny.
 

Untouch

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Someone on reddit has discovered this only happens with robin due to a bug.
You're supposed to jump up when footstooling, but if you footstool with ZSS on robin, you don't.
If you jumped up, robin would be able to roll out in time.

This'll either be fixed or robin is **** tier.
 

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meh. Just means Robin has an unwinnable match-up vs ZSS which sucks cuz he was looking top tier as well.
 

ph00tbag

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well...when Sakurai played up ZSS as being bad in Brawl compared to PSS, when everyone knew otherwise...you knew something was up. Then he called PSS the strongest at the E3 Invitational, only to have ZSS win. It's pretty funny.
Sakurai not fully understanding what makes characters good or bad in these games is really nothing new.
 

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well...when Sakurai played up ZSS as being bad in Brawl compared to PSS, when everyone knew otherwise...you knew something was up. Then he called PSS the strongest at the E3 Invitational, only to have ZSS win. It's pretty funny.
i dont think anyone even picked normal samus during the invitational actually, so...
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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Idk, he did pretty much nerf everything that made ZSS good in Brawl. Good chance he just underestimated the mileage she'd get out of her buffed moves.
 
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Mr. Johan

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First the infinite on ROB in Brawl. Now the infinite on Reflet.

I'm assuming Zamus has a psychotic urge to utterly massacre anyone with a name beginning with R.

Could explain why Ridley's not in Smash. Zamus got to him first.
 
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Une

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lolwut how long has this game been out? A week?
 

NickRiddle

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I've seen multiple people saying you can roll after being footstooled in Smash 4.0, I'll need to see more evidence that you can't escape this.
The paralyzer has a jab-lock effect that forces the opponent to stand up at a set time.
That's what makes this possible.
 

AbbiDood

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I heard someone say they patched this in the latest patch. (the one that fixed the Peach For Glory issue) Can someone confirm?
 
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