Official Yoshi CG List ""FRAME DATA INFO CHANGED A FEW THINGS"" (Updated on 9/29/09)

[Mmac]

As Promised, here are the Kill %'s for the ones proved to worked

DK - 145% Usmash
Ice Climbers - 116% Usmash
Olimar - 105% Uair
Jigglypuff - 85% Uair
Ness - 115% Uair
Ness - 120% Usmash
Lucas - 125% Usmash*

*Before you question Lucas's weight problem, remember that Ness you are hitting above, while Lucas you are hitting near the ground.

Olimar I tested, and is very likely to do, but somewhat difficult to pull off. However, Diddy, ZSS, Pit, Ivysaur, Charizard, and Sonic don't look likely. You can test them if you want, but I can't for awhile. The time I tested them with my friend I didn't have good luck with them

 

[SOVAman]

I don't think I can add a lot of those because Ness and Jiggs and Ics are not CGable It would be confusing to some people if they see them on the list.

I added DK and Lucas though.

 

[bigman40]

I think making another thread for that might suffice.

 

[SOVAman]

I think making another thread for that might suffice.

A grab release thread????

 

[Mmac]

I think they should be though. It won't get much attention anywhere else.

Plus you added that release grab spike characters, and half of them couldn't be CG'ed >_>

 

[Yinlong]

I think they should be though. It won't get much attention anywhere else.

Plus you added that release grab spike characters, and half of them couldn't be CG'ed >_>

I think it should go in your thread, it makes more sense >.>

 

[SOVAman]

I think they should be though. It won't get much attention anywhere else.

Plus you added that release grab spike characters, and half of them couldn't be CG'ed >_>

Actually I took off the grab release spike but I will add both things later I don't have the time right now.

 

[bigman40]

I mean, unless you want to do the extra work of adding all the characters that can be Usmashed, Naired (I think I found a small few), or Uaired, then another thread would be good for it. It's your opinion though.

 

[Mmac]

Who can be Naired? and from the Ledge or on the Ground?

 

[bigman40]

The few that can be Uaired can be Naired too (I think I did it on Ness), but I didn't go into deep testing on it.

 

[Mmac]

A few more, Pit can be Chaingrabbed, but is about at the same caliber as Snake/Dedede

Diddy Kong can be Usmashed on Release. Hard to do, but possible with correct timing

 

[.Marik]

Yeah, I've done this plenty of times..... but it was very informative. For some reason, my favourite throw/grab is Luigi's.... Yoshi's is also pretty good though, well anyways, very informative thread. ^^

 

[Kiwikomix]

I would suggest just renaming the thread "Yoshi Grab Release Thread", then adding the usmash/uair kill %s, the grab release to spike characters, the CG, etc.
Assuming everyone would be fine with merging it all together, of course.

 

[.Marik]

I would suggest just renaming the thread "Yoshi Grab Release Thread", then adding the usmash/uair kill %s, the grab release to spike characters, the CG, etc.
Assuming everyone would be fine with merging it all together, of course.

That would be a pretty good idea, but it's fine like this, don't you think?

 

[SOVAman]

That would be a pretty good idea, but it's fine like this, don't you think?

i don't know what I will do yet

But I have to wait till the weekend though cuz I have no time to make any big edits.

 

[GimR]

Your post says Wolf is one of the hardest to be chain grabbed. The thing is Wolf touches the ground before you can grab him again. Once he does this he can move making him unable to be chain grabbed.

 

[Mmac]

I really doubt the legitimate of the Wolf CG. I Just don't think it's possible.

Also Pit can be Chaingrabbed

 

[SOVAman]

I really doubt the legitimate of the Wolf CG. I Just don't think it's possible.

Also Pit can be Chaingrabbed

WUT PIT COOL

I will test that just to double check

 

[SOVAman]

There is no way in hell pit is CGable I just tested it.

 

[Mmac]

I tested it and it works. I didn't say it was an easy one though.

You need to grab him during the twirling animation at the end of his release. His foot sticks out like a sore.... foot >_>

 

[SOVAman]

I tested it and it works. I didn't say it was an easy one though

Pit can freakin air dodge it


who are you testing this with.

 

[Mmac]

You need to grab him during the twirling animation at the end of his release. His foot sticks out like a sore.... foot >_>

It's all about the foot!

 

[Kiwikomix]

Even if you can CG just depending on that foot (and I'm pretty sure you can't), it would seem that it would be pretty much impossible to do consistently, offline or not.

 

[Mmac]

Probably....

For some reason, "Achilles' Heel" comes to mind....

 

[SOVAman]

It is impossible believe me if you are testing it online then the person is really bad a testing **** or it is delayed online.

 

[Mmac]

I tested it offline with a friend (I beat him up if he screwed up), and it does work.

But now I tested it again and I can't get to work anymore

YOU JINXED ME! ;_ ;

 

[SOVAman]

I tested it offline with a friend (I beat him up if he screwed up), and it does work.

But now I tested it again and I can't get to work anymore

YOU JINXED ME! ;_ ;

lol

Its always the friend. >_<

 

[ChronoPenguin]

if your the only one who can do it theres a problem Mmac.

 

[Shiri]

If it helps the situation any, people can try these CGs out on level nine computers.

They will always jump out at the earliest opportunity. I have not seen behavior dictating otherwise from them.

 

[chimpact]

And put in 1/4 mode too. Or you could play your friend in training mode and set it to 1/4 mode.

 

[Shiri]

Can someone confirm the following two for me?

Yoshi can chaingrab Diddy Kong with back throws up to 34%. With this, Yoshi can chaingrab in one direction, back throw, regrab, and chaingrab again.

Yoshi can chaingrab Pikachu with back throws up to some meager percent under 40% (probably the same as Diddy Kong, but I haven't been able to verify when it stops). Unlike the CG on Diddy, though, this one only lasts for two back throws and then has to be redone. However, one can still chaingrab in one direction, back throw, regrab, and chaingrab again.

Because of the nature of Yoshi's grab releases and people's different timings, especially with the buffer system, I'd like to see some feedback on these, if it's possible. Thanks, guys.

 

[SOVAman]

Can someone confirm the following two for me?

Yoshi can chaingrab Diddy Kong with back throws up to 34%. With this, Yoshi can chaingrab in one direction, back throw, regrab, and chaingrab again.

Yoshi can chaingrab Pikachu with back throws up to some meager percent under 40% (probably the same as Diddy Kong, but I haven't been able to verify when it stops). Unlike the CG on Diddy, though, this one only lasts for two back throws and then has to be redone. However, one can still chaingrab in one direction, back throw, regrab, and chaingrab again.

Because of the nature of Yoshi's grab releases and people's different timings, especially with the buffer system, I'd like to see some feedback on these, if it's possible. Thanks, guys.

I think the back throw works up to 40% on a few characters but I haven't truly tested this. I will test this stuff out and post it up.

 

[Ryusuta]

I tried this against a level 9 CPU Diddy Kong, and it was able to jump out of my back throw instantly (at the apex of his flight) at about 25%. I'll keep working on it, though.

 

[Depster]

No, actual throws don't work. I was chaingrabbing 90% of the cast with forward throws, then when I tried people, they just jumped =3


Groundbreaking theory: I have done no testing, just put in some thought:

Ok, so Yoshi is now the second fastest ground speed character with DT, right? The CG on Meta is really easy, right? possible DT to pivot grab infinite on MK?

 

[Shiri]

Doubtful. Meta Knight falls too fast.

And I'm asking about the Diddy and Pikachu chaingrabs with back throw because I have done them in tournament, but want to know if I've caught my opponents off guard or if it's actually inescapable. DI on Yoshi's non-downthrow are kind of difficult to get a grasp of when you're the one being thrown, but DI still affects the trajectory nonetheless. Yoshi has very few low percent regrabs with back and forward throw on most characters, but I think these (the back throws on Diddy and Pikachu) might be chains up to some percent, regardless of whether it's mediocre or not.

Thanks for looking into it, everyone who is.

 

[Depster]

I bet there a character out there who gets infinited... We should check =0

 

[Ryusuta]

I'm almost certain they were just caught off-guard, because I've been trying it against Diddy on 1/4 speed now, but he always seems to be able to break it on a back throw.

 

[chimpact]

Doubtful. Meta Knight falls too fast.

And I'm asking about the Diddy and Pikachu chaingrabs with back throw because I have done them in tournament, but want to know if I've caught my opponents off guard or if it's actually inescapable. DI on Yoshi's non-downthrow are kind of difficult to get a grasp of when you're the one being thrown, but DI still affects the trajectory nonetheless. Yoshi has very few low percent regrabs with back and forward throw on most characters, but I think these (the back throws on Diddy and Pikachu) might be chains up to some percent, regardless of whether it's mediocre or not.

Thanks for looking into it, everyone who is.

When I played you as Diddy Kong you were able to get the Bthrow CG on me. I still have the replay too.

 

[Shiri]

Were you trying to jump out, though? Either way, I'll do some more testing and see what I find.

 

[SOVAman]

Were you trying to jump out, though? Either way, I'll do some more testing and see what I find.

lets use know what you can find out.