Official Yoshi CG List ""FRAME DATA INFO CHANGED A FEW THINGS"" (Updated on 9/29/09)

[Chaco]

Alright, well get back to me whenever you can.

 

[SOVAman]

use your foot or teach her how to DI

 

[Chaco]

FOOT lol, did not notice that. XD

 

[Mmac]

Do we really want to tell Wolf mains how to escape?

If he can, that is >_>

 

[Chaco]

No we don't....Shhhhhhhhh.

XD If you do PRiDE will smite you.

 

[Mmac]

No we don't....Shhhhhhhhh.

XD If you do PRiDE will smite you.

No, I think we should get rid of that little note beside his name.... Falco's too

If you time it perfectly anyways, they can't do squat!

 

[SOVAman]

I will edit that even though they should not be lurking anyways

 

[Yinlong]

ok so i tried the down b thing today
i may be doing something wrong, but the timing and spacing are REALLY HARD
you have to make sure you don't dash because you won't stop in time to do the down B
and you can't walk too far or the metaknight will recover (although you can still get him if he jumps)
i think i did it a few times though, can other people check?

 

[SOVAman]

ok so i tried the down b thing today
i may be doing something wrong, but the timing and spacing are REALLY HARD
you have to make sure you don't dash because you won't stop in time to do the down B
and you can't walk too far or the metaknight will recover (although you can still get him if he jumps)
i think i did it a few times though, can other people check?

You tried the Down B after the grab release or did you do a down throw. In other words what method did you try?

 

[Mmac]

ok so i tried the down b thing today
i may be doing something wrong, but the timing and spacing are REALLY HARD
you have to make sure you don't dash because you won't stop in time to do the down B
and you can't walk too far or the metaknight will recover (although you can still get him if he jumps)
i think i did it a few times though, can other people check?

First of all, DownB Release only works on MetaKnight, Squirtle, and Ganondorf. You also don't do it Point Blank. If you time it good, just activate it as soon as they are about to Land

 

[SOVAman]

First of all, DownB Release only works on MetaKnight, Squirtle, and Ganondorf. You also don't do it Point Blank. If you time it good, just activate it as soon as they are about to Land

But do you dash at them first?

 

[Mmac]

But do you dash at them first?

You need to.

 

[SOVAman]

You need to.

Alright I will test it again since I tested it wrong last time.

 

[SOVAman]

Just tested it this is what I got it works if they jump 100% of the time BUT if they DI and/or dash away only the first hit hits

 

[Mmac]

You should be able to hit them before they gain recontrol on the first hit though....

 

[Ghost42]

Are you sure Sonic can be CGed?

I know he can get out of Falco's Dthrow CG at any % by using/ mashing his up B (I think it takes a frame to come out).

 

[Mmac]

He can, as long as you react right away. You'll grab him before he can recover from the release

 

[Deleted member]

Yoshi cant cg ike. Not possible. Tell ur friends to not spam jump and jump right when the "stun" ends. Its soo easy for ike to break out.

 

[Mmac]

Yoshi cant cg ike. Not possible. Tell ur friends to not spam jump and jump right when the "stun" ends. Its soo easy for ike to break out.

But Yoshi grabs him before the "Stun" Ends, so how would that be possible?

Also it's not like Teching where you can't just spam it. You can spam jump without punishment

 

[Yinlong]

You should be able to hit them before they gain recontrol on the first hit though....

meh, i'll try again tomorrow

 

[SOVAman]

You can CG Ike it is just as hard as DK if you time it perfectly then he does not regain his jump in btw I did it in a few matches before.

 

[Shiri]

I officially concede.

Ever since April, I haven't found anybody who has been able to jump out of the grabs on Meta Knight like the first guy who I tried it with. With buffered dashes after grab releases that I've been testing out this week, it also seems quite impossible to get out of if dashes are buffered.

I apologize for putting up such resistance a few months ago and pressing it every now and then recently.

 

[Mmac]

CG Video up! http://files.filefront.com/SSBBYoshiCGwmv/;11636745;/fileinfo.html

Someone needs to do Wolf though. Also, I am never going to Chaingrab Dedede/Snake ever again online!

 

[Shiri]

My reaction time must be more balls than I think it is.

Are you buffering the dashes on these?

 

[Mmac]

Are you buffering the dashes on these?

Yes.

I really want to know if Wolf can be CG'ed

 

[Shiri]

I think he falls too fast? I remember not being able to do it on him a few months ago.

Of course, that was also when I thought Meta Knight could escape the grabs, so yeah. >_>;

 

[SOVAman]

CG Video up! http://files.filefront.com/SSBBYoshiCGwmv/;11636745;/fileinfo.html

Someone needs to do Wolf though. Also, I am never going to Chaingrab Dedede/Snake ever again online!

I kinda said like yesterday I was going to make a CG vid so what the ****?


Edit: were is wolf???

 

[Mmac]

I couldn't do Wolf. He gives me nightmares now....

Also I thought I was helping.... <_<

 

[Shiri]

There can be more than one video of chaingrabbing different characters, after all. ^_^;

I'm pretty sure the Yoshi video thread should be redone so that only matches where ludicrous amounts of chaingrabbing occur are displayed. All other matches should be put in the "almost as cool as CGing your opponent to death" list.

 

[Mmac]

Also, I think Ike is offline only too...

Burnt is right, he is pretty hard to do....

 

[darkspatan117]

How about wolf I CGed one yesterday a little bit. It may have just been the guy I was playing though.

you cant cg wolf i tried everything he can roll, sidestep or jump way before Yoshi grab him

 

[SOVAman]

Also, I think Ike is offline only too...

Burnt is right, he is pretty hard to do....

I never had trouble with Ike I thought he was pretty easy to CG.

Also, sorry for getting mad at you Mmac I just woke up and it np I might just make one for the hard characters like D3, Snake and exceptionally Wolf. (If I make one)

you cant cg wolf i tried everything he can roll, sidestep or jump way before Yoshi grab him

You have to buffer your dash better its possible but it is the hardest character to CG I can admit that.

 

[PRiDE]

No we don't....Shhhhhhhhh.

XD If you do PRiDE will smite you.

LOL... I would do more than just smiting... Wolf has been the bane of my existence since this game came out!! I HATE WOLF

 

[Deleted member]

You know what makes me happy. Cging MK, bthrowing him, running behind him and when he tries to attack, pivot grabbing him and doing it again, then fthrow him, chuck an egg or 2, and pivot grab him when he gets back. I almost feel bad for the MK, almost.

Can somebody copy paste my wario easy infinate thing(i shouldnt call it mine, its pretty obvious).

 

[Kiwikomix]

i shouldnt call it mine, its pretty obvious.

Good thing you're not one of those "name it after me" guys.
As in, "This is the Infiburnt Wario Sock Grab"

 

[darkspatan117]

You have to buffer your dash better its possible but it is the hardest character to CG I can admit that.[/QUOTE]

Tested it debunked it doesn't work

 

[SOVAman]

You have to buffer your dash better its possible but it is the hardest character to CG I can admit that.

Tested it debunked it doesn't work[/QUOTE]

It works believe me if I can do it obviously it is possible

Also if you can't CG D3 you will never be able to CG wolf cause its a little harder

Its like Falco's but 10 times harder.

You know what makes me happy. Cging MK, bthrowing him, running behind him and when he tries to attack, pivot grabbing him and doing it again, then fthrow him, chuck an egg or 2, and pivot grab him when he gets back. I almost feel bad for the MK, almost.

Can somebody copy paste my wario easy infinate thing(i shouldnt call it mine, its pretty obvious).

I love doing that and I will add your Wario infinite tip too.

But the shield grab is not perfect for the infinite you still need a little timing.

Also I kinda already knew that so I think its known.

 

[chimpact]

I just played a sheik and I CG'd her a few times. Her jump is not very high, so I think I got lucky. But I did the CG to run off stage Fair on her and it worked. So maybe test it on her.

 

[SOVAman]

I just played a sheik and I CG'd her a few times. Her jump is not very high, so I think I got lucky. But I did the CG to run off stage Fair on her and it worked. So maybe test it on her.

Shiek gets out easily it was just the opponent that sucked at getting out.

But the Fair off the edge works though.

Edit: I will re-test later anyways.

 

[Mmac]

I tested some more Grab Release stuff, and Figured out that DK, Ice Climbers, Ness, and Lucas can be Usmashed on Release. Also, Jigglypuff and Ness can be Uair'ed out of release.

I tested some other characters, and I'm hoping that someone can test offline for Diddy, ZSS, Pit, Charizard, and Sonic for Release Usmashes. Olimar and Ivysaur could be Uaired on release too, so they need testing also.

I'll get the Kill %'s for the confirmed ones soon