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Official **SUPER** Street Fighter 4 Thread of the much-anticipated Kas vs Sieg MM

Sieg

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Ok, have my proper collectors now. I'll be on pretty much most of the time for a couple of days, so come verse me.
 

Isorropia

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Good matches tonight sieg, coulda gone a bit easier on account of me only getting it a few hours ago. >.>
 

Sieg

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Sorry lol.

I'm too used to playing arcade, where EVERY game is a battle and four thousand more.

In the same match.

Atleast it doesn't cost money now lol.

EDIT: I love droppers. It gives you this real satisfaction that somewhere, some little 12 year old and his Ryu/Ken are raging.
 

Sieg

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Most people I have versed with one bar have actually had good connections. It's just that one in every like 10 that lags like a *****.
 

l3oOkeR

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playing last night, i was trying to medium punch in the air. Sagat would land then punch. im liek FFS this sucks balls
 

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playing last night, i was trying to medium punch in the air. Sagat would land then punch. im liek FFS this sucks balls
If it's like this for every game you try, then you need to either configure your network (NAT2 setup, or unblock your console from the firewall) or get a better net connection.
 

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internet connection is fine, anything thats not a fighting game plays pretty flawlessly. And my PS3 is connected directly into my modem
 

luke_atyeo

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must be a ps3 thing, I was playing on xbox live against people with a red bar connection and there was barely any lag at all.
 

l3oOkeR

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nah its just normally the noobs dont notice it because they just button smash =D =D =D

yes thats directed at all of you who say there is no lag
 

unreon

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playing last night, i was trying to medium punch in the air. Sagat would land then punch. im liek FFS this sucks balls
I get this as well. It's horrible. So I don't play online altogether =( I have a measley 52 BP from winning just one game and losing about a bajillion others. To flowchart kens. Farout.

=(
 

Sieg

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Lol. I love Ken's online.

But yeah, I've been having fun online, just find something cheap that isnt a projectile.

Oh, I'm sorry, did I just hit you on wakeup with Boxer's ju.Fierce? Oh, and now you're on the ground again? Well, since you fail at blocking, I'll just do it again. Oh, are you stunned? How **** is that? Bwhahahahaha.
 

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Cannon Spike. Cannon Spike. Cannon Spike. Cannon Spike.

A lot of those shouldn't have been what they were. Thanks for wrecking me and my little brother tonight, Sieg. First time I've ever fought a Rose. Ever. Those matches were terrible for me, I had no idea what she could do. lol

And the above mentioned Boxer strat annoys the hell out of me. It's so bad, it's good.>.<

Fun games nonetheless. I should play people more when I'm at a peak instead...
 

Sieg

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Yeah, I'd like to get a game with everyone offline when I can lol.

I love Rose, she's not my main (yet) but, she is just a huge wrecking ball of pain, and I love it so much lol. Long range bull**** fast attacks, an ultra that can **** anything. I won't tell you how to stop it, you can find out for yourselves. Plus I know you guys like surprises.

I figured you were having a bit of trouble lol, I know how QC characters can be. I originally played Viper but I just couldn't get any kind of skill going with the stick, so I changed to holds.
 

Isorropia

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Rose's ultra is a grab. Just jump to avoid it.

That reminds me, sieg, the other night, you kept trying to intercept bison's aerial approaches with rose's aerial grab thing. I seem to remember it...not working often. Does it work better against other character's jumpins?

Also, her qcb+p, the reflect thing...does what exactly? I've seen the jab version absorb a fireball, but the fierce version didn't do anything for me when I tried it.
 

Sieg

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Jump to avoid it. mwhahahahaha.

Anyway, her aerial grab works really well, usually most people won't do anything because her fierce reaches the top of their jump, usually just before they do any kind of attack. It can grab through Bison's stomp, but sometimes it doesn't lol.

The Mid and Fierce reflect projectiles upwards and forwards respectivly, you just have to time it right. I haven't really got it down yet though.
 

Isorropia

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Huh, so it is. Animation made me think it was a grab.

Jumping straight up on reaction will avoid Rose's ultra (then again, that'll avoid most ultras if they just throw it out there), or if you use your ultra a split second after she does it'll win (again, likely true for most ultras).
 

Sieg

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It's still a grab, but it can be blocked like a hit from far away.

If you jump in though it will grab you even though you are in mid air so it makes for an awesome wake up.
 

Isorropia

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Yeah, against jumpins.....Rose's opponent is pretty screwed.

Is it just me or are jumpins not so great in sf4? I keep doing them from being used to Guilty Gear, but here they just seem to get beat all the time.
 

unreon

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As far as I know with Rose's reflect the scarf has to be out and glowing. So kinda in the middle of its animation before it can reflect stuff. I've been trying to do it like Fox on reaction =(

Well I use Abel so I either roll through her Ultra, or jump whenever she activates it. Just never EVER jump in when Rose has Ultra ._. horizontal scarf line of doom D:

And I thought most people just used Rose's cr.fierce as an antiair, not her grab +_+ One more thing to look out for..

Think I might pick up Sim once I get a stick, he looks so fun to play. And has anyone see Wong's Chun recently? Headstomp>crossup blew my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZTmLT8euc4
 

Sieg

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Daigo's Ryu is better imo lol.

Went arcading today, did some pro SF4 lol, better watch it guys XD.

EDIT: It's better if you don't jump in on this game.
 

unreon

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ggs tonight sieg, you absolutely and rightly trashed me. Never played either boxer or rose before ><

Yeah I'm pretty scrubby, I need to space my Abel better. And my C.Viper. And my Ryu, who is the scrubby of all. There were times when I jumped a little:
- Rose ultras, I hop over you and try to Ultra. Two Falling Skies ensue. @#$% this game's new srk motion.
- C.Viper super jumps. Rose ultras. Despite being at the peak of my jump, I get shocked to death. wtf T_T
- Ryu jab srk into FADC with Ultra meter into...EX fireball. @#$% I hate this input delay it's killing me! =(

Your boxer is really awesome. Do you have to hit headbutt high? There were alot of times where you'd through it out there and it'd eat all my pokes D: Your Rose is **** hot, her ju. fierce seemed to go through my blocks wtf I honestly don't know why, I was blocking high each time you did that. Or was trying to.

Did someone else play C.Viper or was that you? I can't believe my boxer won a round!

Sieg 6 unreon 2 oh wells I have much more to learn D:
 

Sieg

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Let's see.

Your Abel is nice, the main thing I noticed when I was versing him was the fact that you like, barely jumped in, which is good.

On the Rose ultras, haha, thats what I love about it lol. It grabs from the most random places sometimes. I saw you trying to do FADC into ultra with Ryu and it kept screwing up lol, ah well.

I don't have to headbutt high, it's just become a bit of a habit lol, because it's the longest reaching off wakeup.

Nah, I don't play Viper properly lol, Moose does/did, but I think he's playing Cammy now. Dude, your Viper was well played, The reason I stopped playing Viper was because I could never do her srk SJC into flames, although I wish I could haha.

Good matches overall.
 

unreon

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lol Isorropia 9 unreon 2? Was it? Something horrendous like that. Good games though :D

This was the least lag-free connection I've ever had on SF4, so we need to go at it again =)
- RAH I HATE BISONS T_T His headstomps runs circles around Abel and makes him confused and dizzy D: All I could think of doing by the end was to jump backwards and fierce your stomp approaches. Stomp ate through shoryukens, it ate through fire, it eats through falling skies. And there was a time when I FADC into cr.fierce and did the ultra too late; I was kinda pissed at that.
- Gouken is broken, seriously broken. First few rounds I was completely overwhelmed. His parry is too strong. Despite losing to it constantly, I still love watching Shin-Shu-Shoryuken from throws <3 I kept trying to EX ground explosion to fire kick to ultra when you had me in fireball trap, but kept failing the fire kick part D: My thumb was dying on the Dpad.
- Rose was tight, killed my Sakura when I did her OOPSIES thing and you simply ultra'd it T_T
- Honda actually ultra'd my Dhalsim's ju.fierce long arms, which made me laugh out loud for real. HAHA
- Dan dittos were so hilarious HAHAHA I kept trying to Super Taunt by the end but you wouldn't let me =(


@Seig. Thanks for the words =) I can consistently pull off srk into flame kick into ultra offline. Her timing for combos is really strict and my thumb is paralysed jumping all over the Dpad T_T But online I get a bit affected and can't do it very well. RAH D:

Things aren't looking good for me at the next SF4 tournament, haha
 

Isorropia

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Least laggy? That's good. I was tired of playing 0-1 bar connection people through arcade interrupt. >.>

Yeah, I loves me my bison. Headstomp is a ***** to stop, and if you do...well, I'll just be doing Devil's Reverses until you're in the corner and can't dodge it by walking backwards. And yeah, I remember that late ultra. As I remember you made up for it a round or two later. **** Guile's difficult to pull off and not terribly useful ultra....Abel's roll>command throw is painful, I just gave up trying to beat it and ran away from it whenever I saw it coming.

Gouken is great, he plays so differently to the other Shotos. His parry is quite ridiculous, yes, makes focus attacking pretty pointless with him sometimes. His Kara back throw is sooooooooo good, free combo/super/ultra/whatever, really. Viper is....difficult. I was planning on using her initially, but now I don't think I could use her till I've sat in training mode for 3 days practicing the ridiculous inputs to deal the same damage as sagat's roundhouse.

That Rose ultra was crazy, I swear you were above my head and slightly behind me when it caught you.

Dhalsim's long arm hitboxes make for hilarious counter hits sometimes, I also laughed.

Dan is awesome. Sorry about not letting you taunt, I though you were botching the ultra input. I also wanted to super taunt, but every time I got the meter I'd accidentally cancel into his other super when I was going for regular koryuken.


And what, no comments for my Zangief? Makes me sad.
 

unreon

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OH YEAH, I forgot about the big furry 'gief!

That Super Atomic Buster that hit me as I was doing a meaty cr.forward was ridiculous. Ridiculous! I was planning on simply fireball trap to sweep your lariat with Ryu, or bait the lariat and low electric knuckle it. Then I did do it, the knuckle simply went and missed gief's huge thighs, and I got hit anyway. That discouraged me heaps HAHA Gief is always scary because at any time wakeup Ultra turns the match, that happened lots. Did I play him with Abel? Don't remember. Because I heard Tornado Throw beats SPD everytime but I wanted to try it.

Great Gief. Green Hands comes out way too fast T_T
 

Isorropia

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I remember reading somewhere that Gief's spd comes out in 2 frames, Abel's tornade 5, but Abel's has invincibility on startup so it'll win....or something.

Sieg, man....boy do I hate boxer's rising headbutt. Beats EX green hand, EX scissors...pretty much every move I tried got eaten by it. Also, please stop spamming cr.jab all the time, it makes tick throws really really really hard to do, and without them my gief and gouken games are rooted. >.>

*Goes off to practice actually comboing cr.lk into scissors with bison instead of failing at it*
 
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