F5(X)Dark3nd
Smash Rookie
eye is on teh interwebz complainin about teh brawl
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Official Smash Bros. Brawl Complaint Thread
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studly
Smash Ace
my only complaint is the ridiculas lack of speed and how everyone seems to float more
otherwise i actually love brawl an dMElee both
otherwise i actually love brawl an dMElee both
Trozz
Smash Ace
Stage complaints:
- Why are the throwables in the Mario Bros battle stage so damaging? Gah.
- Delfino Plaza = glitched. There's a spot where if you're standing on the platform as it goes in to a ground level, you'll be sucked under. What the hax.
- New Pork city should be able to have entire sections of it destroyed. As is, it's way too dull/boring.
- Why don't you get a !!! warning whenever cars are about to come on the F-Zero track? You get a warning for the wimpy vehicles in Onett.
- What happened to Saria's song?? That was my favorite.
- Why can't you choose between Mushroomy Kingdom above-ground or under-ground?
- It'd be nice if you could choose which Pokemon appeared at Spear Pillar. Some are fun to play with while others are just annoying.
- Why are the throwables in the Mario Bros battle stage so damaging? Gah.
- Delfino Plaza = glitched. There's a spot where if you're standing on the platform as it goes in to a ground level, you'll be sucked under. What the hax.
- New Pork city should be able to have entire sections of it destroyed. As is, it's way too dull/boring.
- Why don't you get a !!! warning whenever cars are about to come on the F-Zero track? You get a warning for the wimpy vehicles in Onett.
- What happened to Saria's song?? That was my favorite.
- Why can't you choose between Mushroomy Kingdom above-ground or under-ground?
- It'd be nice if you could choose which Pokemon appeared at Spear Pillar. Some are fun to play with while others are just annoying.
TexEagle
Smash Rookie
yeah something really disapoints me, the CD scracted inside my wii somehow and plays around 3 games before it freezes. Nintendo is failing me
my complaint is that there are clones. my second complaint is that theres no sora or banjo kazooie (i dont care wich 1 as long as 1 of them r in) and 3 i sometimes hate that theres only 2 min matches over wifi because it seems really short
Demon Kirby
Smash Champion
Shortened version.
One of my complaints is that I can't pick my dang mains. It went like this: Meta Knight + Pit > Wolf + Meta Knight + DeDeDe > Diddy + DeDeDe + Wolf > Diddy + Meta + Wolf > Diddy + Meta + Zamus > Diddy + Meta + Kirby.
GAWH!
Lord Viper
SS Rank
You can, just hold the sheild button, (L or R if you play with Classic and GC controllers) then it will show up Under Ground. Works everytime.
Dime
Smash Journeyman
Can anyone else confirm that this works? I'm not home to try it.You can, just hold the sheild button, (L or R if you play with Classic and GC controllers) then it will show up Under Ground. Works everytime.
antimatter
Smash Lord
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STAGE SWITCHING CONFIRMED!
stillsickwithit
Smash Rookie
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complain about brawl is that u can't combo like u could in melee and the floatyness is retarted....worst physics in the world....overall brawl is not that great of a game.....
Dark_Ness
Smash Journeyman
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This thread rules as much as every Smash Bros. game ever made.
I enjoy all three Smash Bros. games equally, and I'll grant each one could have been improved in some way, shape, or form. But every game has flaws, doesn't it?
Anyway, here're some of the ways I would alter Brawl for my approval.
1. Add Megaman. X, specifically. He's the coolest.
2. Leave Mewtwo in as something more than a trophy. I would've been happy with him as a boss, even.
3. Let Ganondorf use his sword, dang it! The fact that Sakurai's aware of this is kind of a humorous slap in the face, isn't it?
4. More and better stages. "Like what, Dark_Ness?" Hmm... where do I begin?
Bowser's Castle, Fortuna, Cave of the Past (From Earthbound, and yes- with Giygas in the background, doing all kinds of crazy crap to the players), Gerudo Valley, OLD Dreamland from SSB64, and maybe perhaps a sky stage that let you jump and use recovery moves indefinitely. I dunno how that'd work, but it'd be the greatest thing in the universe.
5. This is a personal preference, but I miss the old battlefield. It had a dark, futuristic feel to it that I enjoyed.
6. Ness does not know PK Starstorm. He knows Psi Rockin Omega. That should have been his Final Smash.
7. Brawl's not as quick as Melee was. I liked the fast-paced aspect of Melee.
8. This is NOT an ending:
Okay, that's enough of my gripes. There's more I could list, but much of it is just me wanting to either make Mother's representation astronomical or make Ness God tier. =P
But yeah. Brawl has flaws, sure, but it's still the greatest game I've played thus far.
I enjoy all three Smash Bros. games equally, and I'll grant each one could have been improved in some way, shape, or form. But every game has flaws, doesn't it?
Anyway, here're some of the ways I would alter Brawl for my approval.
1. Add Megaman. X, specifically. He's the coolest.
2. Leave Mewtwo in as something more than a trophy. I would've been happy with him as a boss, even.
3. Let Ganondorf use his sword, dang it! The fact that Sakurai's aware of this is kind of a humorous slap in the face, isn't it?
4. More and better stages. "Like what, Dark_Ness?" Hmm... where do I begin?
Bowser's Castle, Fortuna, Cave of the Past (From Earthbound, and yes- with Giygas in the background, doing all kinds of crazy crap to the players), Gerudo Valley, OLD Dreamland from SSB64, and maybe perhaps a sky stage that let you jump and use recovery moves indefinitely. I dunno how that'd work, but it'd be the greatest thing in the universe.
5. This is a personal preference, but I miss the old battlefield. It had a dark, futuristic feel to it that I enjoyed.
6. Ness does not know PK Starstorm. He knows Psi Rockin Omega. That should have been his Final Smash.
7. Brawl's not as quick as Melee was. I liked the fast-paced aspect of Melee.
8. This is NOT an ending:
THIS, however, IS an ending:
9. More creative bosses. Ridley = Master Hand = Rayquaza = Crazy Hand = Tabuu = etc. etc. etc. [yeahright]Or at least involve Giygas somehow.[/yeahright]
Okay, that's enough of my gripes. There's more I could list, but much of it is just me wanting to either make Mother's representation astronomical or make Ness God tier. =P
But yeah. Brawl has flaws, sure, but it's still the greatest game I've played thus far.
Can I make a complaint about people who have never played Super Metroid?
there are no opinions on this subject, Super Metroid is the
greatest game ever made.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
For Metroid fans.
<.< I thought Zero Mission was better though.
<.< I thought Zero Mission was better though.
Death... pain... anger... 9000... Super... passion...
COMPLAINT-DUKEN
Super Metroid is the best game. Your opinions are wrong. Change them.
NukeA6
Smash Master
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No way! That's Super Mario Bros 3. Though, I do agree Super Metroid is somewhere up there.
Slike
Smash Cadet
My complaints?
Unoriginal target tests.
Stage builder doesn't have water.
Bowser jr. isn't in, but I got over that.
Ike just kills the balance. It's just not fun with Ike around.
I hate tripping. Once I tripped on intense boss battles on my 9th battle, and I tripped right when Crazy hand felt like throwing me off the stage.
Some characters (Ike, and Diddy) are nerfed on SSE because some of their moves are too good for the monsters. (Ike, self explanatory, and Diddy's jet pack is a really good recovery when you charge it. Sorry, can't have that in SSE)
People complain about the smallest things.
It's addicting, and it just HAS to be around my state testing time. Good god, I better still ace the math test. I got a 99 on reading... But math is my strong suit. *see above to get the joke*
Unoriginal target tests.
Stage builder doesn't have water.
Bowser jr. isn't in, but I got over that.
Ike just kills the balance. It's just not fun with Ike around.
I hate tripping. Once I tripped on intense boss battles on my 9th battle, and I tripped right when Crazy hand felt like throwing me off the stage.
Some characters (Ike, and Diddy) are nerfed on SSE because some of their moves are too good for the monsters. (Ike, self explanatory, and Diddy's jet pack is a really good recovery when you charge it. Sorry, can't have that in SSE)
People complain about the smallest things.
It's addicting, and it just HAS to be around my state testing time. Good god, I better still ace the math test. I got a 99 on reading... But math is my strong suit. *see above to get the joke*
Browny
Smash Hater
people who use the same character over and over and over again in 1vs1 friends wi-fi
why is it no surprise the ones that do this always main wolf or toon link >_>
why is it no surprise the ones that do this always main wolf or toon link >_>
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
although I absolutely love SSBB and give it a perfect score regardless...i do have some problems with it...mostly small but i find great annoyance with them regardless
1. with dragoon parts, it can take u nine hits to make a CPU to drop a part, but it takes one hit from the CPU to make u drop a part
2. although we can build stages, we are only given a certain number of block which still limit our creativity and the they should have add more elemtns to it (water areas, ie platforms, the ability to make a moving stage set)
3. we can't use the Golden Hammers on the prizes u obtain from Boss battle mode in the Challenge menu. (some cant complete BB mode on Intense difficulty ppl! HELLO?!?!?!?)
4. (i find this next one humourous as well), when in my music on a certain stage, sometimes u put one song all the way up, and another almost next to nothing but still available to play. then when playing on (insert stage name here), the song that u set on next to nothing plays more frequent then the one u put all the way up.
5. the option to set the game in Japanese (think SSBM), i honestly thought it would be fun to hear the Japanese voice artists in Brawl, (Lani Minella's voice acting for Pit annoys me a bit for some reason( it's ok but yeah, sounds a bit fake) . after hearing alot of voice complaints U'd think it would be Sonic, IMO I find Jason's voice acting suitable for Sonic in the games, but not in the anime though, and (to me) it does sound different in Brawl then it does in the anime which is a good thing. but I still like Ryan Drummond voice acting more though
6. someone said this before, no orginal Target stages for each character (though i love the idea of the difficulty change option)
7. the "Ai no Uta (French version)" song it is so annoying to hear song loop like that in a fighting game. it similar as to how in DDR when picking a song u hear the sample of it which fades to nothing then starts again out of nowhere. yah it like that for this sing. OH and the "Seven Rings in Hand" song is annoying as hell as well XP
8. Peach's second jump gains no height (WTH WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?! O__O )
that's pretty much it....but like i said before....despite these problems of the game that i have...I still give it a perfect score 434454655665453656/100...see how bad at math I am? XD
1. with dragoon parts, it can take u nine hits to make a CPU to drop a part, but it takes one hit from the CPU to make u drop a part
2. although we can build stages, we are only given a certain number of block which still limit our creativity and the they should have add more elemtns to it (water areas, ie platforms, the ability to make a moving stage set)
3. we can't use the Golden Hammers on the prizes u obtain from Boss battle mode in the Challenge menu. (some cant complete BB mode on Intense difficulty ppl! HELLO?!?!?!?)
4. (i find this next one humourous as well), when in my music on a certain stage, sometimes u put one song all the way up, and another almost next to nothing but still available to play. then when playing on (insert stage name here), the song that u set on next to nothing plays more frequent then the one u put all the way up.
5. the option to set the game in Japanese (think SSBM), i honestly thought it would be fun to hear the Japanese voice artists in Brawl, (Lani Minella's voice acting for Pit annoys me a bit for some reason( it's ok but yeah, sounds a bit fake) . after hearing alot of voice complaints U'd think it would be Sonic, IMO I find Jason's voice acting suitable for Sonic in the games, but not in the anime though, and (to me) it does sound different in Brawl then it does in the anime which is a good thing. but I still like Ryan Drummond voice acting more though
6. someone said this before, no orginal Target stages for each character (though i love the idea of the difficulty change option)
7. the "Ai no Uta (French version)" song it is so annoying to hear song loop like that in a fighting game. it similar as to how in DDR when picking a song u hear the sample of it which fades to nothing then starts again out of nowhere. yah it like that for this sing. OH and the "Seven Rings in Hand" song is annoying as hell as well XP
8. Peach's second jump gains no height (WTH WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?! O__O )
that's pretty much it....but like i said before....despite these problems of the game that i have...I still give it a perfect score 434454655665453656/100...see how bad at math I am? XD
IceEmblem
Smash Journeyman
Meta
1. That isn't true
2. we get enough to fill up half the stage isn't that enough.
3. so your saying they should make the game easier just for you.
4. Then turn the sound off on your tv.
5. Um what.........
6. atleast they made 5 different levels.
7. Well the don't listen to it.
P.S. i like it.
8. they were thinking that that umbrella she carries must be heavy so they made here have a more likely jump.
0wN3D.
4.
1. That isn't true
2. we get enough to fill up half the stage isn't that enough.
3. so your saying they should make the game easier just for you.
4. Then turn the sound off on your tv.
5. Um what.........
6. atleast they made 5 different levels.
7. Well the don't listen to it.
P.S. i like it.
8. they were thinking that that umbrella she carries must be heavy so they made here have a more likely jump.
0wN3D.
4.
SMB3 is awesome. Super Metroid is better. It's simple math. Math that says I'm right. Coincidence? No. Math is never wrong or bias.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
1. actaully yeah it is tru sometimes , cause if they have a part i can hit them with fully charged smash attack that hits multiple time and they wont drop it, while if i have a piece, they just do a side strong attack and i drop ait..it has happened...
2 filling up half a stage with the parts we are given is not a substitute for originality and creativity...though god bless the one who can do an awesome stage with the part they have (^^)v
3 they already did in my case, im just saying that it's messed up for a Golden hammer which is supposed to act like a free token for the prizes not work on one thing.
4. y would i wanna do that? did i say i was complaining? no i said i found it funny. little annoying but mostly funny
5. the language option in Melee? how u can change English to Japanese? me hoping there would be something similar in Brawl? make sense?
6. and that's fine...although im just saying character could have 5 different target stages of their own and not the same one like we have now
7.which is y i set those songs off, and if u like them, thst's fine i dont care, it's my opinion, im saying that Ai no Uta (French) has the worst loop, and that Seven Rings in hand was annoying as hell, but if u like them don't let my opinion stop u doing so
8. no they reduced her second jump to almost nothing....her parasol is not the reason
also buddy where do u get off saying u owned me just because i stated my problems with the game, im not trying to think im better than anyone else nor am i saying the game sucks. these are my personal annoyances with the game and this here is the thread to talk about it. i don't ever remember reading that this thread was a debate thread about other problems with it. u didn't own anyone, the only thing u DO own is the title known as "@$$hole of the day" *hands u the certificate* enjoy, now f*ck off u attention-begging W#ore <^>(^^)<^>
Wing-Zero
Smash Apprentice
my compalint is mario kart has better online and this is a better game!
Crazy Ace 01
Smash Apprentice
I have trouble finding people to play with in my area, so I was really looking forward to online play. Finally, I would be able to play with other people whenever I wanted for as long as I wanted! 
Oh wait. "With Anyone" sucks and Nintendo isn't doing a **** thing to fix it except say "try again" and "wait it out".
Oh wait. "With Anyone" sucks and Nintendo isn't doing a **** thing to fix it except say "try again" and "wait it out".
smash_lord1050
Smash Apprentice
my complaint is that i dont have internet acces. so i cant play online. which sucks b cuz the computers keep shielding and jumping and it pisses me off. i think that it should be more offence than defence.
Elitist Competitive Tourney Phag
Smash Rookie
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Lol, dumb n00b
3747373796432
Smash Journeyman
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The only thing that the host of a friends match can change without anyone else in the match being able to do anything about it seems to be the rules (I could've swore a couple of timed FFAs I hosted turned into stock matches). I'm tired of playing on stages I don't like and I'm tired with playing with items off that I want on and items on I want off.
.Sakurai said:
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*facepalm*
WTF ARE YOU STILL DOING? WTF IS THERE POSSIBLY LEFT TO DO? WTF HAVE YOU BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME? YOU'RE STILL F****** WORKING ON IT? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU WORKING ON? HAVE YOU JUST PROGRAMMED THE CHARACTERS? HAVE YOU JUST DECIDED UPON WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE SSE? WHAT THE FLYING 747 **** HAVE YOU DONE? HAS WORK ON THE PAL VERSION EVEN STARTED?
Sakurai your failure is insurmountable.
Beyond quantifiable measures it would appear.
slickmasterizzy
Smash Apprentice
mr gameandwatch
you grab-downthrow-downsmash
unless they know about this, at low %'s this will work everytime
THIS IS A COMBO
this is not a combo (any character i dont care)
ok so i start by using my dash
then use my forward air
then i use my down air
then i use my
ok this depends on WHO YOUR FIGHTING and it also depends on IF THEY DONT DODGE IT.
stop calling a bunch of moves that worked for you in a random *** game a "combo" its not a combo and it just leads to people asking
omg i need no gud combos 4 pit 2 kill plz
you grab-downthrow-downsmash
unless they know about this, at low %'s this will work everytime
THIS IS A COMBO
this is not a combo (any character i dont care)
ok so i start by using my dash
then use my forward air
then i use my down air
then i use my
ok this depends on WHO YOUR FIGHTING and it also depends on IF THEY DONT DODGE IT.
stop calling a bunch of moves that worked for you in a random *** game a "combo" its not a combo and it just leads to people asking
omg i need no gud combos 4 pit 2 kill plz
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
found a new complaint....this one i find to be humorous, Ironic and just plain messed up O__o
The Ice Climber's Final Smash : Iceberg
no im not complaining about the actual FS itself.....I think it's pure genius....but there's something about it that doesnt make sense....Popo and Nana are called the "Ice Climbers"....no get this they're called the "ICE CLIMBERS"...and for whatever messed up reason they cannot "Climb" or in other words walk on the giant Iceberg as a sloped but walkable platform for them. I can understand the other fighters not being able to...but it's really kind of messed up for the "Ice Climbers" not being able to do it....or maybe they can but im doing something wrong...huh i'll look into it but in the meantime yeah but it is the funniest thing i have a complaint on
OH! i have another complaint , and it's the fact that ppl cant make up their minds on whether Meta Knight's "Dimesional Cape" move can deflect projectiles or not... take a look at Meta Knight's page in smashwiki (i still call it that)....it says in his pro and con sections that it can but it's difficult to pull off....while if u click on the link for "Dimesional Cape" it'll say that it's not able to deflect projectiles...to the ppl who made the edits in either page....plz...make up yur dam minds and get it straight.
The Ice Climber's Final Smash : Iceberg
no im not complaining about the actual FS itself.....I think it's pure genius....but there's something about it that doesnt make sense....Popo and Nana are called the "Ice Climbers"....no get this they're called the "ICE CLIMBERS"...and for whatever messed up reason they cannot "Climb" or in other words walk on the giant Iceberg as a sloped but walkable platform for them. I can understand the other fighters not being able to...but it's really kind of messed up for the "Ice Climbers" not being able to do it....or maybe they can but im doing something wrong...huh i'll look into it but in the meantime yeah but it is the funniest thing i have a complaint on
OH! i have another complaint , and it's the fact that ppl cant make up their minds on whether Meta Knight's "Dimesional Cape" move can deflect projectiles or not... take a look at Meta Knight's page in smashwiki (i still call it that)....it says in his pro and con sections that it can but it's difficult to pull off....while if u click on the link for "Dimesional Cape" it'll say that it's not able to deflect projectiles...to the ppl who made the edits in either page....plz...make up yur dam minds and get it straight.
Urb
Smash Journeyman
I also dislike the removal of "bonuses". I loved seeing what crazy titles I had won during the match and Bonus mode was so fun because it was so unpredictable.
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
Jimbo_G
Smash Apprentice
Wanna know what pisses me off about Brawl? Gannondorf not getting a sword. Ever since seeing the graphic teaser of Link and Gannondorf that Nintendo made for the Gamecube I've wanted Gannondorf to be a wicked sword fighter. He even begins to use a sword in all of the Zelda games following it! I was willing to tolerate Gannondorf being a clone of Captain Falcon in Melee due to time constraints, but after the release of Twilight Princess and him using a sword in that game as well I fully expected him to be a 300 pound sword weilding monster. He even has a taunt that SHOWS you the sword he COULD be using, but instead decide to punch with the speed of molasses. In Brawl, Gannondorf SHOULD have been what Ike IS, and have Ike get the shaft.
On a side note, this may sound like a huge stretch, but I had my fingers crossed for Knuckles to be in Brawl as well. I wasn't too disappointed when I learned he wasn't in it, but it would have been nice to have Sonic at least have an alternate costume of him. ^^;;;
Aside from that and them not picking more interesting characters from the Fire Emblem series, I am quite content with the way things turned out. Falco may have been a little too much, but he's different enough from Fox for me to accept him and Wolf is ALMOST an entirely different character from the other two animals, far too different to be associated with them move wise. Lucario had me scratching my head for a long while though until one of my younger friends freaked out after seeing him, saying he's the coolest thing around. You see, I stopped watching Pokemon movies somewhere around the time my balls dropped (somewhere around 10 years ago) while my friend, unfortuantly, did not... >____>;;; Hence, I had no Earthly clue who the hell Lucario was. ^^;;;
Anywho, this ramble is going on longer than I intended, so I'll end it on this note: Toon Link rocks. XD
On a side note, this may sound like a huge stretch, but I had my fingers crossed for Knuckles to be in Brawl as well. I wasn't too disappointed when I learned he wasn't in it, but it would have been nice to have Sonic at least have an alternate costume of him. ^^;;;
Aside from that and them not picking more interesting characters from the Fire Emblem series, I am quite content with the way things turned out. Falco may have been a little too much, but he's different enough from Fox for me to accept him and Wolf is ALMOST an entirely different character from the other two animals, far too different to be associated with them move wise. Lucario had me scratching my head for a long while though until one of my younger friends freaked out after seeing him, saying he's the coolest thing around. You see, I stopped watching Pokemon movies somewhere around the time my balls dropped (somewhere around 10 years ago) while my friend, unfortuantly, did not... >____>;;; Hence, I had no Earthly clue who the hell Lucario was. ^^;;;
Anywho, this ramble is going on longer than I intended, so I'll end it on this note: Toon Link rocks. XD
TheStig
Smash Lord
Wifi sucks and Jigglypuff's costumes got nerfed!
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