Originally posted by Decadent One
.......(L-cancelling and techrolling) Similar principal (hit L/R as you touch down), but different applications and effects.
So, one is defensive(tech roll) and one is offensive (L-cancel)?
Which is what we're trying to tell you. We HAVE wroked hard. You're still a relative beginner. Trust us when we say our advice is more valid than yours. We're trying to help.
When did I say my advice was better than yours? Poppycock! My advice is for anyone who wants to play better with Pichu. Besides, I know my comboes aren't the only ones. But I've yet to see someone else talk about comboes at this point in time. For example, the value of WD and L-canceling between moves to create infinites. Think of anything to mind?
Which is exactly why you CAN'T play attrition. You have slightly above average power, but NO staying power at all. Pichu can be KO'd off the top (ie, no recovery possible) at a mere 40% by many tilts. He's far too light to take ANY damage. By taking damage, you're merely allowing the enemy to play on Pichu's biggest weakness, and disallowing Pichu's biggest strength (evasion).
Then that means Pichu was never meant for tournaments. If all he does is evasion than he'll take damage anyway, and thus is nothing more than a target. I don't believe that's the case though, so that's why I've been trying to find new ways of playing him. There's always something new to bring to the table.
Yes, he can, but it's far less likely. I've had Bowser, in a tourney match, over 300% damage. I've frequently had him over 200%. With Bowser, ayttrition is his greatest weapon, because he has unrivalled power and weight. Only Ganondorf can trade hits with him.
Pichu has neither great power (above average, but not great) nor weight.
Hmm, I take it attrition is damage absorption or battle prowess. In which case Pichu's is below average. Still, the average Smashed damage percentage for Pichu is 135% and the average Smash percentage for most others is 125%. Granted Bowser's is 225% and DK's 220 but you get my point. However, this is based on my own findings. Confirmation is still needed.
Yes, we know this, and it bites with Pichu. Pika's is far superior.
That 'bite' depends on several factors such as peak height from a Smash and damage percentages. Still, there's no argument to Pika's "Stairway" (*gasp*, yes I know).
In short, listen to us. We know what we're talking about, and only trying to help you.
Get someone to Im you some tourney vids. Try and get the Azen/Chillin Fox ditto to se what WD'ing is really for.
I do listen. Besides, my email address is on my Stats. Check 'em out if you want to send a vid or two. No bugs, please
. Plus, anything else that can help would be very much appreciated.
Originally posted by pictish freak
You're a self admitted beginner, how can you beleive you've discovered what people better than you haven't?
You know less than I belived after saying Pichu should play with caution to the wind.
Even beginners discover things the pros haven't, it's called 'beginners luck'. Besides, selecting Pichu AUTOMATICALLY says you're throwing caution into the wind.
I wish I had a vid to show you of a real Pichu... Pichu is capable of dancing around his opponents (wavedashes being supremely helpful, just cause you suck at it, doesnt mean it isn't viable) waiting for a chance to strike.
Yes, please send them. But, is it just "dancing" and no "Smashing"? If that's the case, that wouldn't help me very much, aside from the improved exasive skills.
I've had many complaints about just how **** well pichu can play evasively. In team games with Decadent, the opposition often say 'No, YOU take the rat, he's too annoying'
Don't you mean "compliments"
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You simply cannot compete AT ALL without L-cancelling, I'm sorry, that's just how it is, it's just that vital. No L-cancel and you'll lose to anyone who can, that's pretty much always 100% true.
That's with any character at high-level. Still, don't be so impatient, I'm working on it, ok? OK!?
Especially for someone who relies on shffl'd (short hop fast fall L-cancelled) aerials. I bet you cant even short hop. Try it. Now try it while running, now do an aerial in their, now FF at the peak of the jump, and time the L-cancel (remembering to not do it too early due to the lag when you land an attack)
Okay, I'll practice that. Can't promise you an "overnight success" like yourself, but I will give it my best. I'll also practice on my evasion to match my "All-or-Nothing" play.
This game is much deeper than you seem to think, and you're posts about Pichu are horrendously wrong.
Well, have you brought anything NEW to the table? Are there any comboes that might give Pichu or any character for that matter a new edge, to tilt the scales in their favor?
Stop acting like you know your stuff, or it might work, or the plucky underdog might win.
You don't know enough, that's just how it is.
Duh. Obviously, I need some more work. Still, I DO know the basics; plus, I never said I was high-level. You assumed that. And yes, the plucky underdog might win. It happens. Miracles happen too.
Keepin' hope alive and well,
MR. P.A. Awdbawl