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Something else to take note of (and someone correct me if I'm wrong), is that meteors & spikes done to grounded opponents appear to have more hitstun. It's not that they actually have more hitstun, as much as they suffer reduced knockback, so the end result isn't the same as *0.4*kb. I'm not sure what the actual math is, but that's why falco/falcon dair seem to stun for days.@Bones0 @ T tauKhan
That definitely makes much more sense now that I understand how hitstun works. I'm a little upset commentators spread false info like that, as this isn't the first time I've found out something they've said was wrong. My fault for believing it I guess.
Thanks for the clarification guys.
He crouched, but I don't think the video picked it up. Streams are usually at 30 FPS unless marked otherwise, so since the game runs at 60 FPS, frame perfect stuff isn't always shown.
Monkley6
Yes, when a spike on a grounded opponent knocks down and launches him up, the ground bounce that occurs eats up 20% of the initial velocity.Thank you!@
@ S Shadoninja You can see a crouch frame when the clock shows 6:24:89. Unfortunately the footage skips I believe the 2 preceding frames according to the ingame clock.
Everything you will ever need to know about angles in Melee:You just have to grind getting different angles, there's really no shortcut.
Airdodging in melee is practically analog except that the cardinal directions have a bit larger area where they register. I don't remember the actual number of possible angles, but there's hundreds of different possible airdodge angles.
If you're late on the airdodge, the wd becomes a lot shorter since you lose a lot of speed on every aerial frame. Ideally you shouldn't be aerial for even a full frame, you're supposed to land on the same frame at the start of which you became aerial.
Below is a picture showing possible angles in melee:
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You just have to grind getting different angles, there's really no shortcut.
Airdodging in melee is practically analog except that the cardinal directions have a bit larger area where they register. I don't remember the actual number of possible angles, but there's hundreds of different possible airdodge angles.
If you're late on the airdodge, the wd becomes a lot shorter since you lose a lot of speed on every aerial frame. Ideally you shouldn't be aerial for even a full frame, you're supposed to land on the same frame at the start of which you became aerial.
Below is a picture showing possible angles in melee:
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Awesome stuff guys! Thank you!
Yup, other than ones at or above horizontal (because you can't WD on the walls or ceiling).
You can check out this guide, it's pretty simple to get Dolphin up and running for Netplay use. The only thing that's not mentioned there is you will need something to extract files with if you don't have such a program already.So I've heard of something called "dolphin" that's a pc emulator (or something like that) where I can play other Melee players online. I play mostly M and Smash 4 but I love Melee too and am wondering how the whole Dolphin thing works
Well Melee was released in between Crystal and Ruby/Sapphire, and from what I can tell neither of those games have different sprites for male/female Jiggylpuff. The trophy descriptions use "it" to describe Jiggs rather than a gender pronoun, so it's ambiguous.
There is a 3 frame window for a short hop double laser.
A lot of practice. Start by just wave dashing down and adjusting the time when you press L. If you get an air dodge you pressed L too late and if you do a full hop you either pressed L too early or didn't press it down all the way. Then once you get the timing of that down you can try different angles on the control stick as well. Keep in mind Falco has a fairly long jump squat so you have to delay pressing L more than when using Fox or Sheik or some other characters. Also R works for all of this too obviously
This is good, but I just wanted to point out that auto-pilot is actually a very poor word choice. Muscle memory is something that you'll develop with time, but you NEVER want to go on auto-pilot because it means you aren't analyzing how your opponent handles certain situations and thus cannot be adapting to their playstyle. If two players of the same level with the same character go against each-other and only one is adapting, the person who is adapting to their opponent is much more likely to win.
Eh it really isn't a "very poor word choice" it runs along side muscle memory as a very important part of your arsenal.
Every character (except Puff and Yoshi) lose their DJ after they up-B. The catch is that not all of them lose their DJ at the BEGINNING of their up-B. Fox, Falco, and Pikachu I know for sure can retain their DJ after getting hit out of the startup of their up-Bs as long as they didn't DJ/tap jump right before starting it. I'm assuming that this holds true for the little flip at the beginning of Sheik's up-B.
You have 1 frame of the turn animation before back dashes start, but not before forward dashes. If you have 20xx, definitely get used to using debug mode and frame advance so you can check these things yourself (it's pretty simple).
It probably does depend greatly on each player's individual capacity for learning and muscle memory, but....
