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Interesting feedback but thank you. I’m curious though how did it catch scum? Because again a townie’s anger and scum’s anger will be the same. But regardless that wasn’t my focus and I’m still reevaluating the players I haven’t really played with today to try and better my understanding of them.
I’d say it’s probably intentional as well. The underline really sells it imo.
Not off the top of my head. Closest was in Sorcerer where he went and drew a l out of bad attention by trying to attract a lynch and repeatedly going and tagging me and rax because he wanted us to know he was the town traitor. Which attracted a lot of bad attention and got him lynched and was part of why we lost.
On my forum it is well know that I am almost impossible to catch as scum. My town game is manipulative and my scum game is the same. I'm generally only caught by PoE, and my general advice is to lynch me D3 if I haven't caught scum yet.
I'm not betting my life, I'm begging a stay of execution. If I'm actually wrong about UP then I 100% will be lynched at some point and it's better that it happens right away instead of at Mylo.
I started writing it out but I can't remember the details. Two similar games are blurring together. I think the scum player (Peaceful Whale) was too noob to understand what was going on and should have been suspicious of me, but he played along anyway which showed TMI. Over the three games I did something similar it mostly only caught noob scum. But it also helped me get town reads on some people.
Even so though if your town, that’s another mislych if your pact was a thing. Which is bad as scum could easy control that scenario and push another mislynch which could put us in a very rough patch late game. So it’s a bad gambit no matter what
"Scum-wiisp doesn't have this thought. They won't have the perspective to think how rough scum has it this game because they will be thinking about how well they are actually doing."
" I was chill tho and actually listened. I didn't kill 'emIt isn't something that exclusively comes from a town perspective. It was number 170 so still in pretty early in the game, kind of exiting RVS because I think Laser brought the game out page 4 with his analysis post and this vote was page 5. But it seems like something scum could do to buss each other (obviously I don't think that's the team though) and the observation doesn't go very deep. Seems more like a policy vote than anything ("passive and not giving views") and it's called policy vote for a reason. Don't they disregard alignment? LOLPokechu That's why I mentioned it was slight town. It was a unique push, and it was along with them being active. That's it really. Why do you think it isn't alignment indicative?
I definitely think Poy needs to be lynched today. At least Boom's trying. Poy's just being coy (rhymes!) and doesn't even care at this point. Hasn't bothered to respond to my post about him. I liked him before because I preferred what he was saying in Poy vs. Sab but I'm starting to think that was a mistake.
Boom's trying. Not sure what to make of his whole betting, like keeping him around an extra day and killing Poy first. I don't see how it could be anything other than NAI. Willing to listen to it though because he's still here, Poy isn't. And I feel like extra time to read this slot would be great. Would be great to try to reread D1 and see what I can get about Boom from there. I actually don't think his OMGUS vote on Poyzin is that bad because I feel like scum could come up with far better? Like why would they need to scoop so low in order to generate content? Especially someone who seems to have a lot of experience. Like is that all they could come up with? Don't disagree it's still a little weird though...
Boom's D2 content is not bad but just unconvincing and I'm kind of confused how he brings up his reputation from his prior site, that he usually was getting out scum, but this game he's exclusively using PoE because everyone's looking good (save for Poyzin and myself). Falls under the 'lack of scumhunting' and weird overall but I think Poy still needs to go first.
"Scum-wiisp doesn't have this thought. They won't have the perspective to think how rough scum has it this game because they will be thinking about how well they are actually doing."
Could you explain this though? Why wouldn't scum!Wiisp potentially comment on this? I feel like this is WIFOM. I know there was one game I was scum and throughout all the phases every time someone said "scum don't kill me because XYZ" (like they were really getting into the game or they were advancing their reads) I would quote it and say "wish granted
Like scum can definitely be cheeky like that. You haven't played with Wiisp before, have you? If you have, have you seen him make moves like that?
This specific post is a little empty but it shows that Boom's at least attempting to piece things together (and it was 75% done). It falls more under defense and not really scumhunting but still more than what Poy can say lmao
It isn't something that exclusively comes from a town perspective. It was number 170 so still in pretty early in the game, kind of exiting RVS because I think Laser brought the game out page 4 with his analysis post and this vote was page 5. But it seems like something scum could do to buss each other (obviously I don't think that's the team though) and the observation doesn't go very deep. Seems more like a policy vote than anything ("passive and not giving views") and it's called policy vote for a reason. Don't they disregard alignment? LOL
I'm going to sleep, but this is my reminder to come back to you tomorrow.
This is very WIFOMy even by your standards.
In my last D1 reads I had you as null-scum. I liked the last few pages of you in D1, but had to re-evaluate a number of players after the flip. Your vote on the wagon stood out as the most likely suspicious one, especially given your earlier interactions with 3DS.
I actually do this quite frequently between day phases, but I won't hold it against you for finding it suspicious. I'm not sure if I've ever completely reversed a reads list within a day or night phase, but I've come pretty close once or twice.
I am probably just going to start voting people if who obviously don't read my content and just complain that I can't monitor the thread constantly. But. For the last time. I have a very narrow window of hours in the day that I can post. Yes, I will try to catch up on a day's worth of posts and condense my thoughts into a post or two and leave, because the only alternative is for me to ask for a replacement. This isn't dependent on my alignment. It's mostly dependent on my children.
I commented when asked about it. Ran's complaint is that I didn't comment on it without being asked.
I've already explained the Town motivation for doing so on several occasions. But I'll accept that this may just be a forum meta difference and move on.
I felt all of your content D2 up to that point was bad, yes. Pretty much the only thing that you were doing was trying to extract info about power roles and mechanics. Which is often scummy, but bad Town does this too sometimes. I liked most of your content in D1. I didn't have you below Jack. My ordered list at the time was in #1459, posted maybe 15 minutes after the post you're referencing.
The context is Ran asked me who I thought was scum. At the time I felt Jack was most likely, but I listed the other people that I was thinking about as possibilities at the time.
BoomFrog is a very strong player and is difficult to read as either alignment. I've played maybe a dozen games with him and I'm pretty sure there's only been one or two of those where I've been able to get a strong, correct read on him this early in the game. In one of the last games we played on xkcd before the site shut down, we were so concerned about BoomFrog that, if I remember correctly, the cop ended up having to clear him twice.
Since I reread #1421 again and since I became sure about UP last night.Sabrar Since when did Pokechu become deeply tied to UP for you? Why are they a priority to Boom?
UP is second most townie while doing 'really really bad stuff'. Doing good stuff while scum is much easier than doing bad stuff as scum if you're experienced enough.
EBWOP:
TownLaserGuy Can I have an ordered list?
He's backed down a bit on the aggression and feels a bit defensive at times. Nothing else has really jumped out at me. I think he is still likely Town. I don't have time to reread him tonight but I can put him on my list for tomorrow.
Sabrar
Ya I'm just getting paraniod
I agree with that view on 2 mans team which reads do you want to talk about? I can semi agree on Laser he is just that slot in the game that will always bother me I have a habit of having that in most games. I agree that is not a concern for now though.Jackrito I have stated that UP being scum doing this doesn't fit with a [2 man] team. I also think Laser's latest posts are pretty townie too. So I would like to talk reads with you as well.
I forgot to comment on this, but this was a good point.
This is one of the reasons why I think Laser is town. Yet what concerns me is that Sabrar doesn't point this out.
