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NorCal Melee Power Rankings - Summer '15 Update - In Sickness and In Filth

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I don't agree with Paul showing up once a period beating Joe and holding number 2,I thought he should be removed, so this next period he better show up or I'm really gonna make sure he moves off.
 

LunInSpectra

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Total Placement Update:

->SilentSpectre: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 1st
->Pink Shinobi: 1st, 1st, 2nd
->Full Metal Falcomist: 12th, 12th, 9th, 7th, 7th, 4th, 5th, 3rd
->LunInspectra: 6th, 4th, 4th, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 4th
->The Germ: 4th, 5th, 5th, 5th, 6th, 5th, 4th, 4th
->HomeMadeWaffles: 10th, 8th, 6th
->TANG: 8th, 9th, 10th, 6th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th
->Zelgadis: 6th, 6th, 8th, 13th, 10th, 8th
->DP: 9th
->Shroomed: 14th, 11th, 10th
->DarkMike: 22nd, Mentioned, 18th, 14th, 12th, 15th, 11th
->Hyuga Ricdeau: 10th, 10th, 13th, 12th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 12th
->KFC: 20th, 20th, 19th, 19th, 17th, 7th, 9th, 13th
->Phil: 8th, 7th, 14th
->Replicate: 15th, 13th, 15th
 

KILLA.FOR.CASH.

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waiiiiit


i know i did horrible this period and all so i kinda agree with my ranking but

i think my wins/losses this period are

*beat dp in two sets at stockton tournament*

*lost to shroomed and sheridan*

right? so uhhh... idk can somebody explain my rank in comparison to DP?
 

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JR needs to quit being a little *****.
i honestly think he could move up 6-10 spots on this list.
if he keeps being lazy, he'll fall off the map completely.
 

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waiiiiit


i know i did horrible this period and all so i kinda agree with my ranking but

i think my wins/losses this period are

*beat dp in two sets at stockton tournament*

*lost to shroomed and sheridan*

right? so uhhh... idk can somebody explain my rank in comparison to DP?
DP beat me, and HMW, and rey all in one tournament =D

i'm moving up SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slowly lol

slow and steady i guess
 

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8 down is rough but i'm not confident i could've come up with anything better

though i feel robert dollars had definitely earned a spot

gj justin! better immune system = better smashing. step your game up rey
 

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WOW WHAT THE ****, REPLICATE GOT MOVED DOWN?
THATS ****ING ******** I HOPE YOU GUYS REALIZE THIS

IM LIKE THE ANGRY MOM WHEN HER KID GETS A C IN 6TH GRADE
NORCAL UR DUMB AS ***

dang
 

Rosedemon

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waiiiiit


i know i did horrible this period and all so i kinda agree with my ranking but

i think my wins/losses this period are

*beat dp in two sets at stockton tournament*

*lost to shroomed and sheridan*

right? so uhhh... idk can somebody explain my rank in comparison to DP?
Im assuming its because when you beat DP, he wasnt ranked. While he proceeded to beat a few ranked players, while you lost to people who were ranked beneath you.

Edit: Im also going to have to agree with Lovage on this one (lacking the name calling, cuz I know we got some pretty smart people). The list just doesnt seem right, and I think you guys could've done better.
 

Naota21t

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WOW WHAT THE ****, REPLICATE GOT MOVED DOWN?
THATS ****ING ******** I HOPE YOU GUYS REALIZE THIS

IM LIKE THE ANGRY MOM WHEN HER KID GETS A C IN 6TH GRADE
NORCAL UR DUMB AS ***

dang
they didn't take SCSA into account I believe.

if they did he definitely woulda moved up, but not counting that joe hasn't been doing great nor bad.
 

HomeMadeWaffles

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scsa is the reason why joe is still on the list

i think they were gonna replace him with bobby, but he did good at scsa

poor joe :(

and u guys got oscar angry yo

thats scary

oscar never gets angry lol (he's like, he found out joe got suspended angry)

its not set in stone tho ppl remember that

so yea..
 

pockyD

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it's definitely fair to count scsa

on the other hand, you still have to count the other tournaments in the period too... and i can't say joe has clearly outperformed anyone above him

the back half of the list is just way too closely bunched -_-... ANYONE who got put at 13-15 would feel misplaced
 

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waiiiiit


i know i did horrible this period and all so i kinda agree with my ranking but

i think my wins/losses this period are

*beat dp in two sets at stockton tournament*

*lost to shroomed and sheridan*

right? so uhhh... idk can somebody explain my rank in comparison to DP?
dog, stop trying so hard. it's now super obvious the panel has no idea what they're doing. LOL DP does well at what, one tournament, and he's ranked 9th? how many tournaments had he been to in that period? two? that's not enough to get ranked. well, i guess it is in norcal.

whenever your list is having players go up or fall down a lot, the list probably sucks

and no offense to hyuga, but why is he on the list again? nevertheless ahead of you and phil
 

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imfeelinmyself06 (10:46:22 AM): people are upset about the rankings again
imfeelinmyself06 (10:46:23 AM): LOL
imfeelinmyself06 (10:46:26 AM): it makes me laugh
HomeMadeWaffles7 (10:46:36 AM): LOL yea
HomeMadeWaffles7 (10:46:39 AM): like u said
HomeMadeWaffles7 (10:46:47 AM): its NOT set in stone
imfeelinmyself06 (10:46:52 AM): YEA
LOL
 

pockyD

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i do agree that it would be appropriate if the panel started explaining!

edit: if the panel isn't confident in where they're placing people, then there really should not be rankings at all =\

or just cut it down to top 10, because that's a lot easier and more solid
 

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dog, stop trying so hard. it's now super obvious the panel has no idea what they're doing. LOL DP does well at what, one tournament, and he's ranked 9th? how many tournaments had he been to in that period? two? that's not enough to get ranked. well, i guess it is in norcal.

whenever your list is having players go up or fall down a lot, the list probably sucks

and no offense to hyuga, but why is he on the list again? nevertheless ahead of you and phil
Who are you and where are you from?

Does this include SCSA?


Yes.

Jr: I beat DP in two sets but he's still higher than me

DP beat more ranked people than KFC.

DP Wins: Mexican, Dark Mike x 2, Shroomed, HomeMadeWaffles, Sheridan, Me

KFC Wins: DP x 2, Mr. Ganondorf

DP Losses: KFC x 2, Lunin, SS

KFC Losses: Sheridan, Shroomed

DP also beat people Shroomed & Sheridan. KFC didn't.

The ranking period is short enough to make large movements.

Lovage: Replicate got moved down? He did well at SCSA!


Replicate did nothing to prove he was better than Phil or KFC, who both have a better history. Although he did beat Lovage, it does not mean he gets to move past Phil.

We are confident in what we've done.

SoCal: Your distorted power rankings won't distort ours. edit: lol, half joking.
 

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Least I can say is... WOW SOCAL OUR RANKED 15th BEAT LIKE UR TOP 10's not legit ROFL just playing.

Joe's performance has not proved that he will almost beat everyone above him everytime he goes to a norcal tourney. Yes we did count Joe's wins at SCSA but it only proved he can still do well against his socal bretherens and he also proves that he still deserves that spot with the last tournament. IF IT WASNT for that tournament, he would of been off and replaced.

KFC going down is the same reason that Rey said. You didn't beat any rank people this time and DP has. DP performed a lot better in terms of loses or wins. One tournament can change a lot thats just because rankings are done in a short period of time/tournaments.

Lovage anyone on our ranking can beat u so the win that replicate has over doesnt mean anything LOL just playing. Im sorry Lovage that ur boy Replicate went down but really his last performance at SCSA only guaranteed his last spot. If it wasnt for that, everyone else out performed him.

It's true that we should put people for inactivty but Pink Shinobi did join the MAJOR tournament that counted a lot and he got 9th, no bad loses, but obviously doesn't have any good wins either, however he kept that same consistency even if it was one tournament. Inactivity and boot off the list should only apply if

1. Not joining tournament in between the next rank
2. Or not proving himself that he has been to enough to tournament to keep his spot. If he just went to one tournament again till the next ranking, then there will be higher consideration of booting him off the rank.

Last but NOT least... Pools do count in these tournaments.
 

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Who are you and where are you from?
Some brawl noob.

Jr: I beat DP in two sets but he's still higher than me

DP beat more ranked people than KFC.

DP Wins: Mexican, Dark Mike x 2, Shroomed, HomeMadeWaffles, Sheridan, Me

KFC Wins: DP x 2, Mr. Ganondorf

DP Losses: KFC x 2, Lunin, SS

KFC Losses: Sheridan, Shroomed

DP also beat people Shroomed & Sheridan. KFC didn't.
It sounds like you guys are judging EVERYTHING off of each individual ranking period. So past performance doesn't matter, only who you beat in that individual ranking period? That's quite unfair because then most things are judged on opportunity, not skill.

And how can you put an unranked win over an unranked win (DP over Dark Mike) as a ranked win just because you so happened to rank the latter in the next ranking period? That's silly. It should be, what did you do to get on the list? That means beating ranked people. So he beat Shroomed, HMW, you, and Sheridan. Beating HMW and you is legit; beating Sheridan and Shroomed is more of a sign that they should drop.

But wow KFC, you losing to Sheridan and Shroomed ***** your whole life. No johns. But that's still way too much emphasis placed on 2-3 tournaments. This is why you can't go just off of tourny results alone; everyone in the world knows KFC, at any given tournament, would be a significant favorite to do better than Sheridan or Shroomed, or half the list even. Common sense about skill has to come into play or your rankings end up looking like a joke.

The ranking period is short enough to make large movements.
That's why you don't judge solely off of results from 2-3 tournaments.

Replicate did nothing to prove he was better than Phil or KFC, who both have a better history.
So NOW history comes into play? Why doesn't KFC get the benefit of history over DP? Over Shroomed? KFC's long been one of Norcal's best...

Although he did beat Lovage, it does not mean he gets to move past Phil.
He beat No. 4, No. 5 and No. 7 (I think Connor's 7th) in SoCal, along with Kira (unranked). You can't really give him credit for the Kira win wrt moving him up the rankings, but it provides evidence that the former wins weren't flukes, because Kira beat No. 4 on this list just a week before and has only lost to highly ranked SoCalians in recent weeks.

I'm not sure about his results before that -- probably on the border -- but the most recent results should be weighed the most heavily, especially when many of the people ranked higher than him have done little to distinguish themselves.

Anyway, wins over two of SoCal's top 5 are very legit based on other SoCal v Norcal results (Fly v Falcomist at WCSL, Tofu beating Phil and Kira beating Germ at MJ, etc.). He should get much more credit than you are giving him, because normally a player ranked near the bottom beating multiple people near the top is an instant reason to go up. So he beat No. 4 just a week after Phil loses to SoCal's No. 7, but he shouldn't move ahead of Phil? Sounds like inconsistency.

We are confident in what we've done.
So when the next PR has to have a bunch of move changes again, will you still be confident or will you admit your errors?
 

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Some brawl noob.



It sounds like you guys are judging EVERYTHING off of each individual ranking period. So past performance doesn't matter, only who you beat in that individual ranking period? That's quite unfair because then most things are judged on opportunity, not skill.

And how can you put an unranked win over an unranked win (DP over Dark Mike) as a ranked win just because you so happened to rank the latter in the next ranking period? That's silly. It should be, what did you do to get on the list? That means beating ranked people. So he beat Shroomed, HMW, you, and Sheridan. Beating HMW and you is legit; beating Sheridan and Shroomed is more of a sign that they should drop.

But wow KFC, you losing to Sheridan and Shroomed ***** your whole life. No johns. But that's still way too much emphasis placed on 2-3 tournaments. This is why you can't go just off of tourny results alone; everyone in the world knows KFC, at any given tournament, would be a significant favorite to do better than Sheridan or Shroomed, or half the list even. Common sense about skill has to come into play or your rankings end up looking like a joke.



That's why you don't judge solely off of results from 2-3 tournaments.



So NOW history comes into play? Why doesn't KFC get the benefit of history over DP? Over Shroomed? KFC's long been one of Norcal's best...



He beat No. 4, No. 5 and No. 7 (I think Connor's 7th) in SoCal, along with Kira (unranked). You can't really give him credit for the Kira win wrt moving him up the rankings, but it provides evidence that the former wins weren't flukes, because Kira beat No. 4 on this list just a week before and has only lost to highly ranked SoCalians in recent weeks.

I'm not sure about his results before that -- probably on the border -- but the most recent results should be weighed the most heavily, especially when many of the people ranked higher than him have done little to distinguish themselves.

Anyway, wins over two of SoCal's top 5 are very legit based on other SoCal v Norcal results (Fly v Falcomist at WCSL, Tofu beating Phil and Kira beating Germ at MJ, etc.). He should get much more credit than you are giving him, because normally a player ranked near the bottom beating multiple people near the top is an instant reason to go up. So he beat No. 4 just a week after Phil loses to SoCal's No. 6, but he shouldn't move ahead of Phil? Sounds like inconsistency.



So when the next PR has to have a bunch of move changes again, will you still be confident or will you admit your errors?
Ur right on the shrot months we had to make another PR, but it keeps consistency. Also there are 5 tournaments we based this on.

SF
Stockton
Berkeley
Mango Juice
SCSA.

Sheridan is also still up there because he beat KFC who is ranked higher then him from the last list but overall he doesn't have any bad loses whatsoever. Also the ranks from like 12th -15th is really vague. There all in equal lvl in my opinion so from there we just did on tournament winnings and loses. Pools do count in this matter as well.

Also past tournaments before SF were taken accounted for to an extent, but its the recent tournaments that prove where u stand at this given moment.

Also KFC doesn't go to enough tournaments to begin with. So the tournaments he goes to that have only 2 ppl ranked attending or one... isnt as helpful to when he goes to a tournament with 8 -10 out of the 15 ranked ppl go to at another tournament.

So he beat DP... someone who is non-ranked... but DP beat shroomed, HMW, and even Lunin our number 2 at the time. Those wins have a lot more effect.
 
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