No Crying Until the End: Ninten for Smash Ultimate!

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Earthbound Beginnings (Mother 1) was an amazing experience when I played all the way through it on the Wii U and I have the physical OST of the game and it brings back so many great memories and “Pollyanna”, “Bein Friends”, “The Paradise Line”, and “Eight Melodies” are my favorite tracks from that OST as well. Enough rambling on about that, but Ninten has my support for being Ness’ echo with a few minor moveset changes. Also Mother needs more recognition and I’ll throw in my support for Porky Minch and Masked Man too. :grin:
 

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I wouldn't complain either way, although I do wish Ninten ended up being a semi clone like Lucas
(Also kinda how Isabelle became a semi clone of Villager), that's wishful thinking tho.
 

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Is there anything we can do to maybe garner some more hype around Ninten? I'd love to help in any way to bring more attention to the last Mother protagonist.

Once he's in, I feel like us Mother fans can finally rest (well, maybe after M3 is released outside of Japan but you get my point).
 
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Is there anything we can do to maybe garner some more hype around Ninten? I'd love to help in any way to bring more attention to the last Mother protagonist.

Once he's in, I feel like us Mother fans can finally rest (well, maybe after M3 is released outside of Japan but you get my point).
If they put Mother 1 on the Switch online, that'd help.
 

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Is there anything we can do to maybe garner some more hype around Ninten? I'd love to help in any way to bring more attention to the last Mother protagonist.

Once he's in, I feel like us Mother fans can finally rest (well, maybe after M3 is released outside of Japan but you get my point).
I don't know, a lot people say that he looks like Ness and that he shouldn't be in the game (which I heavily disagree).
We could spread the word and have people support us, I also don't know if the original poster of this thread is still active on here.
 

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I think the point that stands the most against him the most is that in Japan Ninten is not listed anywhere in any Smash Bros. polls, characters from Mother 2 were requested in Melee, but no Ninten. Lucas was in Japanese polls during Brawl. Technically the Ninten requests are more of an non-Japan thing especially since the first game was released 3 years ago.
 

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Yeah just having all three Mother protagonists would be a sweet love letter to the Mother community. Mother fans are small in number but when they all want one thing, they make themselves known and definitely have an impact. The sheer amount of times Reggie has brought up Mother 3 in America is insane, but it also seems like Mother fans have to fight the hardest due to our little numbers. I think if any video game character is requested enough, they would get in at some point. Ninten is no exception.
 

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We could spread the word and have people support us, I also don't know if the original poster of this thread is still active on here.
I’m still here, I just haven’t been commenting as often recently.

One way I might suggest would be through other social media platforms.
 

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I’m still here, I just haven’t been commenting as often recently.

One way I might suggest would be through other social media platforms.
Awesome! I wasn't sure if you still hangout here, also we could make a twitter account for Ninten Support?
A lot of characters on this website has a Twitter account, and it could give us some more attention.

Very late, but I really hope Ninten makes it in. The obscure ideas like Richter gives me hope that Sakurai has thought of echo ideas for Ness, which could easily lead to the idea of Ninten being a playable echo.
I heard Richter was very popular in Japan, so that could be why he's an echo.
I see what you're saying, I think Sakurai really wants give what people want
(Including minor requests).

I'm interested in this thread.
Could I be perhaps a supporter? I've always wanted Ninten for a while now it's a shame he hasn't made it sooner.
But let's hope he makes it this time, alright? :)
I'm glad you support Ninten, I'm always happy to have more support.
Hopefully we hear some something new from Nintendo about newcomers.
 

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Yeah starting up a twitter would definitely help out in getting Ninten noticed. I'm sure if we got Starmen.Net onboard as well, that would be IMMENSE help.
Oh right I forgot about Starman.net, maybe we could gather a following there and then move it onto Twitter.
I don't know if it will work but it's worth trying.
 

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Starmen.net is still a pretty active place, lots of Mother fans are still around there. The last major "petition" so to speak that they did was the Mother 3 Siege a couple years ago, where they went on Miiverse and twitter to get Mother 3 some Western attention. Their attempts to gain Nintendo's support doesn't always work, but they cannot be underestimated. They make themselves known and Nintendo is aware of the site itself, but it's ultimately their decision whether or not they choose to listen to their pleas. From what I can tell, people are still around and talking so getting their help isn't out of the realm of possibility. No doubt if Starmen.net folks saw a good amount of people already on board with the Ninten hype, they'd join in too.
 
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Starmen.net is still a pretty active place, lots of Mother fans are still around there. The last major "petition" so to speak that they did was the Mother 3 Siege a couple years ago, where they went on Miiverse and twitter to get Mother 3 some Western attention. Their attempts to gain Nintendo's support doesn't always work, but they cannot be underestimated. They make themselves known and Nintendo is aware of the site itself, but it's ultimately their decision whether or not they choose to listen to their pleas. From what I can tell, people are still around and talking so getting their help isn't out of the realm of possibility. No doubt if Starmen.net folks saw a good amount of people already on board with the Ninten hype, they'd join in too.
That could actually work! If people are on board with it, then we could be seeing a rise in popularity.
Do you know if there is couple of Ninten support forums on there?

Well, a major leak said that Ninten is in.
I'm kinda skeptical, what's the leak?
 

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I'm kinda skeptical, what's the leak?
The LaPelleDor leak, who claimed that Black Shadow, Ken, Isaac, Reimu, Ayumi Tachibana, Ninten, Medusa, and Skull Kid are all in. The leaker got Simon, Richter, Chrom, and King K. Rool right. The leaker also called Dracula being a boss and the existence of stage morph. This leak supports both the blog theory and the music icon theory.
 

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The LaPelleDor leak, who claimed that Black Shadow, Ken, Isaac, Reimu, Ayumi Tachibana, Ninten, Medusa, and Skull Kid are all in. The leaker got Simon, Richter, Chrom, and King K. Rool right. The leaker also called Dracula being a boss and the existence of stage morph. This leak supports both the blog theory and the music icon theory.
That French leak?

I'm sorry to say, but someone in their discord took pictures and shared them, showing that their group was making a fake for laughs/trolling.

...though I don't have the source because I don't remember what page it was on..
 

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From what I'm seeing, Starmen doesn't have any Ninten support threads. However, they have a general Smash Bros Ultimate discussion thread. I might reach out to this person named Dipper because they actually saw my comment in this thread mentioning Starmen and posted about it in their Smash thread.
 

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What I like about Ninten is that he can be a unique fighter or an echo. Each Mother game has its own theme and differences that make them stand out, and Ninten utilizes some different PSI abilities and items which could make him pretty unique compared to Ness and Lucas. I think the only thing that really stands against Ninten is that the first Mother game is the least popular in the series, and the series is not too well known to begin with. But the game was released recently in the West and Sakurai did say he wouldn't have included Lucas if he knew Mother 3 wasn't planned on leaving Japan, so...
 

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It just warms my heart to come and see an entire discussion dedicated to Ninten for Smash Ultimate. I love the Mother games so much! Also, even if I did find a game that I love more than Mother 3 (which is make believe), there will always be something about the Mother series that is so much more important to me! Btw, Ninten, Ana, Loid, Teddy, Giygas, Porky, Duster, and Claus for Smash Ultimate (Ninten is the priority though)!
 

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Some people are saying Ninten should be a Ness echo, but after watching the video, that possibility is out of the question. Ninten would be a Lucas echo if he is going to be an echo, but I think he should be his own character. There is another thing that decreases Ninten's chances of being an echo. Lucas's Claus alt is nowhere to be seen. This alt is definitely his most iconic alt, as it has always been shown first thing when Lucas is revealed to be a playable character in any Smash game since Brawl. In his Smash 4 reveal, they show that he has a Claus alt. The best times to show that Lucas has a Claus alt would be in his 22 second move-set showcase video or in the images on the Super Smash Bros Ultimate website. His Masked Man alt was shown on the website, which means we probably won't be getting Masked Man, but there is a good chance that we will get Claus as an echo of Lucas! This means that with all of the evidence from the video, we could get Ninten as his own character and Claus as a Lucas echo! Or we could get Claus in the base roster and Ninten as DLC, because next summer will be the 30th anniversary of the Mother series!
 
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If that new leak is real, that means Ninten didn't make the base roster which is fine. If DLC does end up being announced, then I think Ninten has a shot there. He's still obscure compared to other DLC picks like Bandana Dee and Dixie Kong (once again assuming the leak is real), but if we really vocalize ourselves a bit more, we can potentially see Ninten join the battle! :)
 
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Best chance's for Ninten if this leak is real is to team up with the Porky fan's IMO. With Ninten's easy echo status; he could be easily tied in with another popular Earthbound character. Plus it's a win/win in my book.
 
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