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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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Tree Gelbman

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To quote Chrom:
We're Not Done Yet!
What if?

And bear with me.

The Inkling girl looks just like her amiibo, because Sakurai decided to add her and she's the Mewtwo of this direct?

''Please understand it will take a while to create Ms. Inkling, so she will be a pre-ballot slice of joy."

Imagine.

Imagine.

It's not happening.
 

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Well thanks to NO ONE ON THE INTERNET HAVING THE COURTESY TO USE A SPOILER WARNING, my build up has been ruined and I am not going to be fun to talk to the for the next long while.

It's freaking everywhere, on Nintendo Life's front Page, filling the Know Your Meme galleries, on unrealated Twitter Tags and on the front of our own dear website.

Spoiler Warnings save lives, more specifically yours.
 

DoodleDuck97

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What if?

And bear with me.

The Inkling girl looks just like her amiibo, because Sakurai decided to add her and she's the Mewtwo of this direct?

''Please understand it will take a while to create Ms. Inkling, so she will be a pre-ballot slice of joy."

Imagine.

Imagine.
It's not happening.
Well to go even further the inklings are the only ones to not co-exist with their Amiibo box art they are two different poses.
And speaking of Amiibo.
 

Tree Gelbman

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It's so amazing that there is a little statue of Ryu from Street Fighter officially made by Nintendo coming our way now.
 

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I'm going to cover why this whole post is wrong. The first part I will cover is a clarifications of my past and present viewpoints that were obviously accurately misrepresented. To be blunt, that part will be boring for most of you. The second part is ultimately my major issue with this post, what it represents, and what it is doing.

===

What the Smash 4 development team gave us was an entirely different character than "the Duck Hunt Dog" you and many others presented." In your and like-minded people's vision of Duck Hunt, the Dog was the primary focus. With Duck Hunt in Smash 4, the Dog is only a part of the character, and acts as the primary conduit. In Smash 4 the entire game is the character, and it revolves around the Zapper and the parts of the game, including the Dog, the Duck, and even outside sources.

For the record, I disliked every idea I saw based around the Dog as the central focus. I still fundamentally disagree with all such ideas on them. I found none of those ideas useful. However, there were a select few ideas revolving around the gun or some functionalities of the game being the focus with the dog and 1 to 3 ducks as the basis that I thought might have potential, specifically if it revolved around the NES Zapper.

So yes, I opposed your and other people's "Duck Hunt Dog." However, I never had any opposition to "Duck Hunt."

===

As for you and your "crusade" of Duck Hunt Dog after the fact... you're very over-dramatic about it. You make it sound like you're super dedicated to a Holy cause.

However, that's not my big picture issue here.

My big picture issue is your portrayal of everyone who disagreed with you even a little bit over this as an antagonist.

You use Spaghetti Western good guy vs. bad guy portrayals of people, false recollections of events, and sweeping and incredibly low grade over-generalizations. You are taking advantage of people's ignorance of the topic, and using them to oppose anyone who disagreed with you, as well as to uplift yourself. We call it an ego trip.

You spend the whole posts taking shots, and then you reference "pay day." Most people don't get that reference. Arcadenik made a huge moveset for Meowth. 5 or 6 moves on it were literally "pay day." It was a rather humorous occurrence. Instead of humbling yourself by referencing that or how dedicated you are to your ideals (which isn't a bad thing), you're using it to shame others. Instead of making the focus of your story about your doubts about Duck Hunt, you had to essentially make up "bad guys" you had to beat.

You antagonize many people for the sake of melodrama to make your struggle seem harder to overcome in order to add real physical people as your dragons you had to slay. Instead of clarifying I thought the ideas presented to me by and large for Duck Hunt were boring by you and others, you created a false narrative where I was you said "detractors like... Johnknight1" and then bring up "flame wars," implying me and others are at fault.

And to top it all off, you commit your worst offense at the very end, and it's the worst hyperbole you committed in this post....

...You close by quoting Gandhi. By doing so, you de facto are comparing your struggles with the Duck Hunt Dog with Gandhi's, and also de facto comparing anyone opposing you to those that opposed Gandhi and his incredible quest for peace and equality in India, South Africa, and across the world. All this likely wasn't intentional, but it was still in poor taste and done with the general laziness that in my opinion is an accurate depiction of up your posting and shared opinions on such topics.

===

And to the 15 people who liked this above quoted post (that would be @TaichiYaegashi @ Tree Gelbman Tree Gelbman @SegaNintendoUbisoft @Aurora Jenny @BluePikmin11 @Awesomedude4444 @CyberHyperPhoenix @Curious Villager @tehponycorn @Jgt044 @ TheAnvil TheAnvil @ Spazzy_D Spazzy_D @Lucimar @KingBro1 and @egaddmario of course) let this be a lesson to you not to favorite a sweeping generalization propaganda-filled post, or else you might get called out for being lazy for liking all such posts... like you are now.

Don't automatically agree with what you read from one side of the story, especially when the one side is gloating so much.

\\
what are you talking about?Confused why did you tagg me
 

TheAnvil

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well ****

presentation is spoiled

but least we'll hear about the pricing and trailers. so hopefully there's still something to look forward to
And actually playing as the new characters... Don't forget about that.
 

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Well thanks to NO ONE ON THE INTERNET HAVING THE COURTESY TO USE A SPOILER WARNING, my build up has been ruined and I am not going to be fun to talk to the for the next long while.

It's freaking everywhere, on Nintendo Life's front Page, filling the Know Your Meme galleries, on unrealated Twitter Tags and on the front of our own dear website.

Spoiler Warnings save lives, more specifically yours.
I was kind of suprised to see it on Nintendo Life's front page. They used spoilers for the ESRB leaks but seem to have forgone them this time.
 

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Imagine, smash direct,
we open, talk about Lucas and miiverse
then cold silence
nothing
no stages
no mii costumes
roy and ryu aret even announced
for 20 minutes
sakurai stares you dead in the face
I would feel so bad :0.
 

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I was kind of suprised to see it on Nintendo Life's front page. They used spoilers for the ESRB leaks but seem to have forgone them this time.
My guess is that because Ryu and Roy were semi-confirmed by leaked data from the Mewtwo patch... that people already knew that this might have been coming.
 

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Imagine, smash direct,
we open, talk about Lucas and miiverse
then cold silence
nothing
no stages
no mii costumes
roy and ryu aret even announced
for 20 minutes
sakurai stares you dead in the face
I imagine the brain genius who put up the patch early was spared from being torn limb from limb only because of Sakuri's bad hands. So he'll hire to large men dressed as Captain Falcon and Ganondorf to do it instead.
 

Tree Gelbman

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I do feel bad for Sakurai. He's probably ecstatic to show us these surprises they've been working on...

And now it's just all out there.
 

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This may be the greatest picture ever.

Roy has t3h m4g1c
 

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What if?

And bear with me.

The Inkling girl looks just like her amiibo, because Sakurai decided to add her and she's the Mewtwo of this direct?

''Please understand it will take a while to create Ms. Inkling, so she will be a pre-ballot slice of joy."

Imagine.

Imagine.
It's not happening.
I'm sad there's no Inkling Boy trophy.
 

Tree Gelbman

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I do feel like it'd be strange to release all three and then just be all ''That's all folks!" until the ballot.

There has to be something to hold over the hype if that happens, right?
 

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Has anyone ever considered that there might be a 3rd character revealed tomorrow that they're working on and wasn't in the patch?
 

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I hope we get all three of our missing Pokemon friends, frankly after Roy, it seems like anything is possible!
Oh.

my.

I literally forgot about Pichu. Added him in right away. These 3 just don't get much support though, even though they were all good characters.

♥ you cut Pokémon.
 

Starlight_Lily

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Imagine, smash direct,
we open, talk about Lucas and miiverse
then cold silence
nothing
no stages
no mii costumes
roy and ryu aret even announced
for 20 minutes
sakurai stares you dead in the face
No Sakurai! Stop looking at me with those cold disappointed eyes!

Why does everyone forget about the Pokemon Trainer...:pt:

There are currently 4 missing Pokemon vets not 3...
 

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Can someone tell me if Roy's lines are new? I can't tell.

Edit: Never mind, they are.
 
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I'm going to cover why this whole post is wrong. The first part I will cover is a clarifications of my past and present viewpoints that were obviously accurately misrepresented. To be blunt, that part will be boring for most of you. The second part is ultimately my major issue with this post, what it represents, and what it is doing.

===

What the Smash 4 development team gave us was an entirely different character than "the Duck Hunt Dog" you and many others presented." In your and like-minded people's vision of Duck Hunt, the Dog was the primary focus. With Duck Hunt in Smash 4, the Dog is only a part of the character, and acts as the primary conduit. In Smash 4 the entire game is the character, and it revolves around the Zapper and the parts of the game, including the Dog, the Duck, and even outside sources.

For the record, I disliked every idea I saw based around the Dog as the central focus. I still fundamentally disagree with all such ideas on them. I found none of those ideas useful. However, there were a select few ideas revolving around the gun or some functionalities of the game being the focus with the dog and 1 to 3 ducks as the basis that I thought might have potential, specifically if it revolved around the NES Zapper.

So yes, I opposed your and other people's "Duck Hunt Dog." However, I never had any opposition to "Duck Hunt."

===

As for you and your "crusade" of Duck Hunt Dog after the fact... you're very over-dramatic about it. You make it sound like you're super dedicated to a Holy cause.

However, that's not my big picture issue here.

My big picture issue is your portrayal of everyone who disagreed with you even a little bit over this as an antagonist.

You use Spaghetti Western good guy vs. bad guy portrayals of people, false recollections of events, and sweeping and incredibly low grade over-generalizations. You are taking advantage of people's ignorance of the topic, and using them to oppose anyone who disagreed with you, as well as to uplift yourself. We call it an ego trip.

You spend the whole posts taking shots, and then you reference "pay day." Most people don't get that reference. Arcadenik made a huge moveset for Meowth. 5 or 6 moves on it were literally "pay day." It was a rather humorous occurrence. Instead of humbling yourself by referencing that or how dedicated you are to your ideals (which isn't a bad thing), you're using it to shame others. Instead of making the focus of your story about your doubts about Duck Hunt, you had to essentially make up "bad guys" you had to beat.

You antagonize many people for the sake of melodrama to make your struggle seem harder to overcome in order to add real physical people as your dragons you had to slay. Instead of clarifying I thought the ideas presented to me by and large for Duck Hunt were boring by you and others, you created a false narrative where I was you said "detractors like... Johnknight1" and then bring up "flame wars," implying me and others are at fault.

And to top it all off, you commit your worst offense at the very end, and it's the worst hyperbole you committed in this post....

...You close by quoting Gandhi. By doing so, you de facto are comparing your struggles with the Duck Hunt Dog with Gandhi's, and also de facto comparing anyone opposing you to those that opposed Gandhi and his incredible quest for peace and equality in India, South Africa, and across the world. All this likely wasn't intentional, but it was still in poor taste and done with the general laziness that in my opinion is an accurate depiction of up your posting and shared opinions on such topics.

===

And to the 15 people who liked this above quoted post (that would be @TaichiYaegashi @ Tree Gelbman Tree Gelbman @SegaNintendoUbisoft @Aurora Jenny @BluePikmin11 @Awesomedude4444 @CyberHyperPhoenix @Curious Villager @tehponycorn @Jgt044 @ TheAnvil TheAnvil @ Spazzy_D Spazzy_D @Lucimar @KingBro1 and @egaddmario of course) let this be a lesson to you not to favorite a sweeping generalization propaganda-filled post, or else you might get called out for being lazy for liking all such posts... like you are now.

Don't automatically agree with what you read from one side of the story, especially when the one side is gloating so much.

\\
I stand by my liking of that post, and I think it's a bit of a boorish move to call out people that liked said post. The guy had one character that he had campaigned for for YEARS, and he felt vindicated when that character made it in.

I liked that.

I was there when this all went down, sir. Don't assume I don't know what happened. You specifically said the ESRB leak was impossible just because of Duck Hunt. You were wrong.
 

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Remember when we thought there would be no DLC, MEWTWO was just an appeasement bonus. Now we're have a solid 4 characters as DLC and the guarantee of at least 1 more, if not many more, to come. I'm really pleased with the support the Sm4sh game is getting from Nintendo!
 

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I do feel like it'd be strange to release all three and then just be all ''That's all folks!" until the ballot.

There has to be something to hold over the hype if that happens, right?
Been saying this for a while, but maybe they're going to do like what they did with Mewtwo and show off somebody's model, and say like "early frontrunner for ballot being made now."
 

Tree Gelbman

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Been saying this for a while, but maybe they're going to do like what they did with Mewtwo and show off somebody's model, and say like "early frontrunner for ballot being made now."
-squeeks and squeals of K. Rool fan boys and girls in the distance-
 
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No Sakurai! Stop looking at me with those cold disappointed eyes!



Why does everyone forget about the Pokemon Trainer...:pt:

There are currently 4 missing Pokemon vets not 3...
Ehh....

That IS true, but PT fought with Squirts, Ivy, and Zard. He didn't fight himself. Since we'd have Zard, Squirts, and Ivy as different characters, PT kinda couldn't use them. + Technical difficulties if they still wanted him too. And if PT used himself to fight, like calling out Pokémon out, throwing Pokéballs out, tools, etc. etc., he'd more like a newcomer imo.
 
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asia_catdog_blue

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Boys....Girls...

It's....amazing.

In one iteration of Smash we got Mega Man, Pac Man, and Ryu all added to the roster.

We also saw Roy and the Doc return.

We got a bunch of brilliant newcomers from Nintendo franchises.

Everything. Is. So. Flipping. Cool.
And yet, Ganondorf is still a clone.

Seriously, I'm still more annoyed at the veteran fighters, soundfont, and game modes.
 
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