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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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it's not really fair to call runbow indie smash bros
it's like indie nsmb
or perhaps indie battleblock theater

the cast is really neat though. we need more major indie crossovers
runbow, 1001 spikes, and super meat boy each hit a lot of the bases, but there's little to no overlap

(also my toohoos...)

oh, i didn't even realize! the only character to have been in all three games is commandervideo
 
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Something to note about Runbow. Nintendo was responsible for getting all the companies into it.

... And there's no Wayforward character.
 
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AreJay25 said:
Something to note about Runbow. Nintendo was responsible for getting all the companies into it.

... And there's no Wayforward character.
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Shovel Knight murdered Shantae with his shovel and buried her.

Confirmed the only logical indie rep for Smash.

R.I.P. Half Genie Hero.
 
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Roger Smith said:
Shovel Knight murdered Shantae with his shovel and buried her.

Confirmed the only logical indie rep for Smash.

R.I.P. Half Genie Hero.
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Well, Falcon did put Chrom out of business. So I have no reason to believe this isn't what happened.
 
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really though. i know that i'm fangirling but touhou is legitimately the largest indie (or doujin. very close meanings) series, now that minecraft technically isn't one anymore
why isn't it in crossovers. i'm sure zun would allow it

(also goddammit nicalis, stop being so stingy with cave story)
 
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AreJay25 said:
Well, Falcon did put Chrom out of business. So I have no reason to believe this isn't what happened.
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-Trailer begins with Shovel Knight patting the dirt on a fresh grave-

SHOVEL KNIGHT BURIES HIS COMPETITION!

-insert gameplay-

Shantae: I'll get my chance....another day. -hand shoots out of dirt-
 
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Roger Smith said:
-Trailer begins with Shovel Knight patting the dirt on a fresh grave-
SHOVEL KNIGHT BURIES HIS COMPETITION!
-insert gameplay-
Shantae: I'll get my chance....another day. -hand shoots out of dirt-
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My headcanon:
Shantae: You'll never get picked for Smash bros. over me, Shovel Knight. I have way more credib-
Shovel Knight: FOR SHOVELRY *bludgeons her with shovel in a fit of rage*
...
Shovel Knight: Now it's REALLY digging time...
 
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Parallel_Falchion said:
Maybe I'm a little late, but I want to pitch in on the whole female Link/playable Zelda thing because it's a subject that's pretty important to me.

I am in strong support of a female player character. This is not the same as just having Zelda be the hero for a game (which would also be cool). Link is an avatar character, the "link" to the player, as many have pointed out, and having Link be male-only, regardless of however many other female characters are in the games, is pretty non-inclusive; it sends the message that boys are the only audience and/or that only men are heroes (the series constantly employing damsel in distress certainly helps nothing). Aside from some specific lines of dialogue and a bit of ship-teasing (but never romance) that aren't important to the story, Link's gender is never relevant. There is literally no reason not to have a female option just like Pokemon has been doing since Crystal.

Someone said it would be like changing Mario to female, but that's not correct. Mario, and others like Samus, Pit, Donkey Kong, etc. are not avatar characters. They are not specifically made to be representations of the player. They are characters with their own name (remember that every Zelda game has you enter your own name for "Link") and, sometimes, personality.

EDIT: I forgot to mention: Link traditionally being male doesn't matter because every Link is technically a different person.
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Link isn't merely an "avatar", he is a defined male character across many games. Now although women can enjoy the game just fine, the series was intended for a male audience as Miyamoto did it based on adventures he had when he was a kid. That ended up turning into a character, Link. You may roleplay as him with his silence, but you merely are taking on the role of "Link", and not yourself. Mario is rather silent as well outside of his YOOHOO! WAHOO! OH YEAH! MARIO TIME!

I also want to note that just because a woman isn't playable or a woman isn't in the demographic, doesn't mean it's non-inclusive, it merely means that they are focused on one. The issue also lies in that this series always has the same main character, and reversing his gender is changing his iconic design just to appease an aesthetic and a previously established across multiple games role. Mario doesn't need a female variant of himself, Sonic doesn't need a female variant of himself, Donkey Kong doesn't, Mega Man doesn't, Fox Mcloud doesn't, and neither does Link.

Make a brand new character or use an existing character, to alter an iconic character and a story just to make it gender inclusive is honestly taking his entire design and changing it just to appease those who want to see female Link. He's fine the way he is.
 
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That looks cool, let me google "Prison High School".
2 seconds later
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There was also a part of the manga where Kiyoshi and Mari have to do a 69-esque position to suck snake posion out of each others butts.

Also, Hana has a weird fetish for wanting to piss on Kiyoshi's face lol.
This Manga is weird fam, that's for sure XD :p
 
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BluePikmin11 said:
New Update:

* Crono:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384348x03F84Cbd-15

* Sukapon:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384350x5116346d-15

* Slippy:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384352x6074449a-15

* Tiki:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384357x72eeD739-15

Go vote!
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Crono: Not really. I wouldn't complain, but I'd rather a retro FF or DQ character. Indifferent I suppose!

Sukapon: Would be interesting actually. Maybe Yes while it's not exactly a character I would have in my wishlist.I never played his game though, so I don't know what kind of potential he has.

Slippy: No. Bring back Wolf first! I think the 3 are fine imo.

Tiki: Indifferent, we have enough FE characters to be honest.
 
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Slippy is just such a hilarious concept that I can't help but love it.

I don't know how they would implement him but I'd want to see it.
 
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i am getting flashbacks to that project m april fools joke with slippy

that was amazing
 
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The best case scenario for indies on smash brothers is:
>Sakurai finishes all the DLC on smash bros.
>New Nintendo CEO doesn't go with Sakurai face.
>Sakurai quits working nintendo because he is finished with smash bros.
>Smash bros falls in darkness.
>5 years later a kickstarter appears.
>A game called indie all star royale is being funded.
>The main director is Sakurai.
>Internet goes nutz.
>Shovel Knight,Shantae and Quote are the lead characters on the project.
>The project reachs 1 million dollars target in a day.
>Game scheduled to release on the next year.
>We get a forum and a a community manager to talk about the project this time around .
>Communnity manager is a dork.
>Conspiracy about the project is geting around it.
>Sakurai is called a sellout for putting characters from unreleased games like mighty n°9 and exclusive platform characters
>Game gets first trailer.
>Expectations get crushed.
>Game gets release date but is delayed.
>More fuzz surrounds it.
>Shovel knight,Shantae and Quote are either sold or get their respctive companies bankrupt.
>Tumblr explodes for he lack of female characters.
>Commander video and meat boy are the new lead characters on the gamme.
>Game gets delayed.
>Sakurai announces the Nordic adventures of the hammer wielder uprising kickstart.
>Everyone lost faith on the game.
>Someone makes a prediction list on a video game forum based on recent kickstart events.
>Is this gamefaqs?
 
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The best case scenario for indies on smash brothers is:
>Sakurai finishes all the DLC on smash bros.
>New Nintendo CEO doesn't go with Sakurai face.
>Sakurai quits working nintendo because he is finished with smash bros.
>Smash bros falls in darkness.
>5 years later a kickstarter appears.
>A game called indie all star royale is being funded.
>The main director is Sakurai.
>Internet goes nutz.
>Shovel Knight,Shantae and Quote are the lead characters on the project.
>The project reachs 1 million dollars target in a day.
>Game scheduled to release on the next year.
>We get a forum and a a community manager to talk about the project this time around .
>Communnity manager is a dork.
>Conspiracy about the project is geting around it.
>Sakurai is called a sellout for putting characters from unreleased games like mighty n°9 and exclusive platform characters
>Game gets first trailer.
>Expectations get crushed.
>Game gets release date but is delayed.
>More fuzz surrounds it.
>Shovel knight,Shantae and Quote are either sold or get their respctive companies bankrupt.
>Tumblr explodes for he lack of female characters.
>Commander video and meat boy are the new lead characters on the gamme.
>Game gets delayed.
>Sakurai announces the Nordic adventures of the hammer wielder uprising kickstart.
>Everyone lost faith on the game.
>Someone makes a prediction list on a video game forum based on recent kickstart events.
>Is this gamefaqs?
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I would much rather see how Nintendo continues smash without Sakurai, It can either be melee level of competition and popularity or worse than brawl. Plus a different director whose tastes might bring some newcomers that fans are calling for
 
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gameonion said:
Oh, was that Prince Sable? If yes, I totally forgot about it. I'll try doing it soon.
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No. Brian(Quest 64) and Sea Bass(Animal Crossing). BluePIkmin11 was probably the one that asked for Prince Sable. Their captions were "Brian Spells your Doom" and "Sea Bass Flops to the Rescue". I had no pictures for them. If you're still interested, cool. If not, no biggie.

As for the Link/Girl thing, I just think it should have a gender option. Link suddenly being a girl as the only option for one game is pointless. The gender wasn't supposed to matter, so a simple gender option fixes this oversight. Zelda having her own game would be cool, though. Link is completely an avatar in the normal Zelda games, though. It's only things like the CD-i games, Comics/Manga, or TV Show that he has any real personality to speak of. But the games? Very simple character.
 
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You know I have something to add to the whole Link being female discussion. Just something relatively minor. Those that think Link being male is important to his characters, I'm sorry but its not. The only thing important to Link's character is being courageous, which is a pretty universal concept.

Also on Zelda being the player avatar instead of Link I feel putting Zelda in the frontline hero role goes against her ways of heroics. She's more of someone who works behinds the scenes, and only takes action when its time for her to do so. Basically what I'm saying is Link is the muscle man and Zelda is the plan guy.
 
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>2015
>Hideo Kojima announces he is leaving Konami after MGSV
>MGSV is released.
>Widely acclaimed
>Ending is amazing and wraps up the plot perfectly
>Maximum score in every single gaming website or magazine
>Gets all game awards ever
>GOTY
>Kojima does not show up to receive any awards
>Konami representative shows up to get the award and is booed by the audience screaming “A HIDEO KOJIMA GAME”
>Kojima vanishes completely

>2016
>Konami announces a new MGS game without Kojima on the team
>Critics are not pleased. Say it is a sacrilege to the series legacy.
>Valve announces a surprise press conference to be broadcast worldwide at Camp Nou, Barcelona
>the stadium is packed full, the entire world’s press is there
>during the conference Gabe Newell talks about the SteamOS, SteamVR and such.
>conference ends.
>lights go off
>Gaben says “I have a surprise for you”
>spotlights pointing to the ceiling
>a helicopter appears, a rope comes out of it
>Hideo Kojima goes down the rope
>Gabe Newell says “please applaud our new developer”
>the crowd goes wild
>people are crying
>people are on their knees and bowing
>Kojima goes up on stage and holds the microphone
>“I also have a surprise for you” he says
>Lights go off again

>The screen shows “Valve and Kojima Productions present”
>“A Hideo Kojima game”
>“Half Life 3”
>histerical screaming
>people are crying on the streets
>the cure for AIDS is discovered
>world peace
>2017
>Half Life 3 is released
>Acclaimed as the best game of the entire history of videogames
>creates new standards for videogames
>released on every platform existent.
>Valve buys Sony, Microsoft, Motorola, Apple and Samsung
>2018
>Valve is the biggest corporation in the world

>Gabe Newell announces another press conference

>stadium is full again
>Gaben and Kojima appear on stage, hand in hand

>everyone applauds
>then the lights go off
>the center of the stadium opens
>a huge machine appears, armed with all belic power existant in the world
>“Thanks to Mr. Newell, I could conclude my life plan, I announce to you… the metal gear”

>world domination plan
>millions of other Metal Gears appear in the world
>The era of Valve is here
>Kojima cannot be stopped
>War begins
>Humanity is extinct,
 
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Kokonoe said:
Link isn't merely an "avatar", he is a defined male character across many games. Now although women can enjoy the game just fine, the series was intended for a male audience as Miyamoto did it based on adventures he had when he was a kid. That ended up turning into a character, Link. You may roleplay as him with his silence, but you merely are taking on the role of "Link", and not yourself. Mario is rather silent as well outside of his YOOHOO! WAHOO! OH YEAH! MARIO TIME!

I also want to note that just because a woman isn't playable or a woman isn't in the demographic, doesn't mean it's non-inclusive, it merely means that they are focused on one. The issue also lies in that this series always has the same main character, and reversing his gender is changing his iconic design just to appease an aesthetic and a previously established across multiple games role. Mario doesn't need a female variant of himself, Sonic doesn't need a female variant of himself, Donkey Kong doesn't, Mega Man doesn't, Fox Mcloud doesn't, and neither does Link.

Make a brand new character or use an existing character, to alter an iconic character and a story just to make it gender inclusive is honestly taking his entire design and changing it just to appease those who want to see female Link. He's fine the way he is.
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This is incredibly naive and short-sighted.

Link is an avatar. Miyamoto, Aonuma, etc. have stated this themselves. It's in the damn name, he's the "link" between the player and the world. This isn't something we made up, it's literally the analogy used for him by Nintendo. Link is meant to be "you." You name the character at the beginning of the game.

Yes, the series was made with a male audience in mind. That's not a problem in context, it's how things were in the 80s and it's why most of Nintendo's long-running franchises feature male leads. But that's no excuse to leave things as they are; they need to grow with the times and the player bases. Pokemon started with a male lead, then Game Freak noticed that girls were also playing and introduced female options from then on. Why can't Zelda do the same?

As is in what you quoted, Link is not the same character every time. Nearly every Zelda game has a different character being used as that game's "Link," much like the Pokemon protagonists are never the same character as before. This is not the same as Mario, Sonic, Donkey Kong, etc. because those are the same character every time, and they are not avatar characters, again, as I said in the post you quoted.

I'm not asking to change the current Link at all. Did adding Leaf in FireRed/LeafGreen change who Red is? No, of course not. Why would it be any different with Link?

I don't like pulling the "male privilege" card, but have you any idea what it's like to be a girl playing a game as a character that is meant to be "you" and not even be able to have the character be a girl? It's happened often enough throughout history that many are desensitized to it now, and male gamers who always play as male characters rarely, if ever, run into this problem for their gender.
 
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New Update:

* Crono:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384348x03F84Cbd-15

* Sukapon:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384350x5116346d-15

* Slippy:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384352x6074449a-15

* Tiki:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll384357x72eeD739-15

Go vote!
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YES!
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OH GOD NO
Yes



Fem Link subject:
Link shouldn't be a girl or have a female counterpart.
It's going to add nothing gameplay wise and make it feel as if Link is less of a character and more of a nameless avatar.
Seriously, if this was a discussion about changing Samus's gender, we would have people calling it sexist
If we can change the gender of an stabilished character, why not make Zelda a guy? Make Mario and Luigi the Maria Sisters? Because it seems you can't make a game with both genders in mind as the audience without always making the protagonist have two variations
 
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Parallel_Falchion said:
Pokemon started with a male lead, then Game Freak noticed that girls were also playing and introduced female options from then on. Why can't Zelda do the same?
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Sorry but what you stated here is factual wrong. Game Freak had plans to have the female trainer be there since Red and Green. And they only were able to finally make it happen in Crystal.
 
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bladzer said:
Sorry but what you stated here is factual wrong. Game Freak had plans to have the female trainer be there since Red and Green. And they only were able to finally make it happen in Crystal.
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Yes, I know this. I should have worded that part better, but the point is that Game Freak kept up with the times.
 
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Zoroarking said:
YES!
Fem Link subject:
Link shouldn't be a girl or have a female counterpart.
It's going to add nothing gameplay wise and make it feel as if Link is less of a character and more of a nameless avatar.
Seriously, if this was a discussion about changing Samus's gender, we would have people calling it sexist
If we can change the gender of an stabilished character, why not make Zelda a guy? Make Mario and Luigi the Maria Sisters? Because it seems you can't make a game with both genders in mind as the audience without always making the protagonist have two variations
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Have you read my posts? Please do, because I cover all of these (bad) arguments.
 
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Let's just make the entire cast of Smash female and change the name to Super Bash Sisters, that'll make everyone happy.

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