NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[PushDustIn]

Considering the next one is(pretty much confirmed to be) Isaac, I guess they're not deviating from the "unlikely characters" route

Ehh at least Isaac has (possibly) high demand, and is a 1st party character. He's far more likely than Shovel Knight.

 

[Deleted member]

Ehh at least Isaac has (possibly) high demand, and is a 1st party character. He's far more likely than Shovel Knight.

I wouldn't say high demand, Isaac fans exaggerate his popularity, outside of those few that you see in forums, there's basically nothing, it doesn't help all traces of him were removed in this game(outside of music).
He's a much weaker K. Rool, you'll only see their fanbase in the internetb because they fell into obscurity and newer fans probably don't even know they exist, K. Rool's pro points are that he has naturally a bigger fanbase, appeared in recent(read:2009) games and is from a popular game franchise
Isaac was in two GBA games and made a cameo in Dark Dawn, his series is still obscure to the general public and, let's be honest, there are tons of much more popular and recognizable game franchises still not represented in Smash.

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Now, if you excuse me, I have to hide in the mountains because the Isaac fans are coming after me

 

[A Distant Demon]

I wouldn't say high demand, Isaac fans exaggerate his popularity, outside of those few that you see in forums, there's basically nothing, it doesn't help all traces of him were removed in this game(outside of music).
He's a much weaker K. Rool, you'll only see their fanbase in the internetb because they fell into obscurity and newer fans probably don't even know they exist, K. Rool's pro points are that he has naturally a bigger fanbase, appeared in recent(read:2009) games and is from a popular game franchise
Isaac was in two GBA games and made a cameo in Dark Dawn, his series is still obscure to the general public and, let's be honest, there are tons of much more popular and recognizable game franchises still not represented in Smash.

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Now, if you excuse me, I have to hide in the mountains because the Isaac fans are coming after me

Isaac is an earthbender and you decide to hide in a group of giant rocks? Good plan

"No more 3rd parties for awhile" thank goodness. It was getting a bit ridiculous. Its probably my only chance to see wonder red in a smash style anyway

 

[DMurr]

I wouldn't say high demand, Isaac fans exaggerate his popularity, outside of those few that you see in forums, there's basically nothing, it doesn't help all traces of him were removed in this game(outside of music).
He's a much weaker K. Rool, you'll only see their fanbase in the internetb because they fell into obscurity and newer fans probably don't even know they exist, K. Rool's pro points are that he has naturally a bigger fanbase, appeared in recent(read:2009) games and is from a popular game franchise
Isaac was in two GBA games and made a cameo in Dark Dawn, his series is still obscure to the general public and, let's be honest, there are tons of much more popular and recognizable game franchises still not represented in Smash.

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Now, if you excuse me, I have to hide in the mountains because the Isaac fans are coming after me

If his popularity is exaggerated, how does he constantly perform well in the fan polls? I know of at least one that was cheated but that's the only one Isaac scored higher than K Rool which we know isn't true, and it's an anomaly. Maybe off the internet, there's not as many people who know Golden Sun as Smash fans, but who else is voting on the Smash Ballot?

Don't get me wrong, there are other choices who are just as good or better than Isaac, but I do feel that he has one of the larger fanbases of the remaining characters yet to get in.

 

[BluePikmin11]

If they had a higher chance, wouldn't the work feel kinda redundant if they were officially revealed. A few already have very high amount of support (K. Rool/Isaac) to not needing a Smashified at all to get more support. That's just my opinion on the matter.

there are first party characters with little chance of getting in smash, too?
i don't... what?

I know but really, Geno is among the only little chance Nintendo character lots of people are asking for.

 

[Solfiner]

I might be selfish, but I just really want a high quality render of Isaac.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Geno

Nintendo character

is this one of those "mega man FEELS like a nintendo character" things or am I horribly misreading your post?

 

[DoodleDuck97]

The first match I will do if Isaac gets in will be him versus Little Mac.
The only item will be assist trophies too just for the absolute hell of it :3
Plus an Isaac Amiibo would be Sweet/ Rare

I might be selfish, but I just really want a high quality render of Isaac.

I want one for my signature. So you ain't alone

 

[BluePikmin11]

is this one of those "mega man FEELS like a nintendo character" things or am I horribly misreading your post?

He might technically count as a Mario character to Omni, plus he's one of the characters Artsy Omni has wanted to do for a while.

 

[LucarioDude]

If Isaac does become a future DLC character, this would be everyone and their pets:

 

[powerprotoman]

I'm not sure if this has been linked yet but this is what Pokémon would look line running in Unreal Engine 4. PokéPark 3 or Ultra Super Mystery Dungeon anyone? ;~;

i dont like being able to see the tip of charmanders tail

If Isaac does become a future DLC character, this would be everyone and their pets:

nope only reason id buy him if it were to happen is hes a character in smash....and as far as im concerned he originated in smash because if he's good i rather ignore that his games exist

 

[DoodleDuck97]

So I know I might be going of Topic here.
But I happened to be listening to Sonic Rush's Soundtrack because it's amazing.
And one of the songs is titled "Get Edgy"

Now normally I wouldn't think about it too much.
But the fact that this game came out on the exact same day as Shadow the Hedgehog just makes me Chuckle.
They knew. They knew way back then.

 

[egaddmario]

Man fighting as any of these 3 is damn up hill battle.

Her frame data for all of her moves is just frustrating.


This Ninja ***** needs a Nerf style

Have you tried v. //?

All three absolutely destroy him. v. is especially horrifying because Kirby makes better use of the Monado Arts than Shulk... Seriously, Kirby with Buster and up tilts gets Shulk up to like 70% before he can do anything because his aerials come out as slow as molasses. Same with Mario and up tilts. And Sheik in general. I really wish Shulk's frame data was better.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I've been listening to Stickerbrush Symphony for a while now, man the track itself is so beautiful and something to really appreciate.

 

[PushDustIn]

Spazzy_D wrote an overall of the Gematsu Leaks over at Source Gaming!

This serves as the introduction to a (currently) 10+ page debate between @TheAnvil and myself. Let us know what side you are rooting for in the comments on the site!

Spoiler

We are going to break apart the debate into 2 parts. Probably.

 

[Z25]

The Fe Concert is happening? I can't wait to see what piece Sakurai made'!

 

[egaddmario]

Spazzy_D wrote an overall of the Gematsu Leaks over at Source Gaming!

This serves as the introduction to a (currently) 10+ page debate between @TheAnvil and myself. Let us know what side you are rooting for in the comments on the site!

Spoiler

We are going to break apart the debate into 2 parts. Probably.

I think everyone knows where i stand on the Gematsu Leak. It's not like i've been adamant about it since it's inception...

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Spazzy_D wrote an overall of the Gematsu Leaks over at Source Gaming!

This serves as the introduction to a (currently) 10+ page debate between @TheAnvil and myself. Let us know what side you are rooting for in the comments on the site!

Spoiler

We are going to break apart the debate into 2 parts. Probably.

Ooh Goody :3
Oh and how is the @TheAnvil haven't seen him post in over a week now.

 

[Solfiner]

Have you tried v. //?

All three absolutely destroy him. v. is especially horrifying because Kirby makes better use of the Monado Arts than Shulk... Seriously, Kirby with Buster and up tilts gets Shulk up to like 70% before he can do anything because his aerials come out as slow as molasses. Same with Mario and up tilts. And Sheik in general. I really wish Shulk's frame data was better.

Shulk vs Sheik is the absolute worst

Disgusting match-up.

 

[egaddmario]

Shulk vs Sheik is the absolute worst

Disgusting match-up.

Even in Speed it seems she's faster than us

 

[Champ Gold]

Spazzy_D wrote an overall of the Gematsu Leaks over at Source Gaming!

This serves as the introduction to a (currently) 10+ page debate between @TheAnvil and myself. Let us know what side you are rooting for in the comments on the site!

Spoiler

We are going to break apart the debate into 2 parts. Probably.

My thoughts on the whole thing is this. It fans were similar to that of crazy cultists, all the characters were easily predictable &.

And last The Chorus Kids can burn and rot in Nintendo Hell along with the CD-I games and the Mario Porno. Sorry to those supporters but my bias against it relies solely on their awful design.

Have you tried v. //?

All three absolutely destroy him. v. is especially horrifying because Kirby makes better use of the Monado Arts than Shulk... Seriously, Kirby with Buster and up tilts gets Shulk up to like 70% before he can do anything because his aerials come out as slow as molasses. Same with Mario and up tilts. And Sheik in general. I really wish Shulk's frame data was better.

Monado Kirby is frreaking busted in teams with Shulk

 

[epicmartin7]

Spazzy_D wrote an overall of the Gematsu Leaks over at Source Gaming!

This serves as the introduction to a (currently) 10+ page debate between @TheAnvil and myself. Let us know what side you are rooting for in the comments on the site!

Spoiler

We are going to break apart the debate into 2 parts. Probably.

Nice article @Spazzy_D and @ PushDustIn ! Can't wait to read part 2!
When it comes to Gematsu, I've always been Pro-Gematsu. There some things in the leak I do feel are, however, a little fabricated. The main one I think of is the Shulk reveal date as I believe the leaker knew stuff from the planning stages of development and just decided to release them late (so he most likely made the Shulk reveal up).

Otherwise, we knew Nintendo was planning DLC (not what the actual content is) from the game's code and Lucas ended up cut from the base game (it still strikes me as odd they would try to cut Ness as he was in 3 games at that point (I realize they tried to cut him in melee, but he was only in one game and less important at the time)).

Still, time will tell if anything drastic happens and potentially changes the current stages of this leak/rumor.

 

[AreJay25]

Yeah, I've always been pretty Pro-Gematsu too. Just because there were a few holes doesn't mean it's automatically illegitimate. It was right about quite a bit, and even the things it didn't get right were referenced later.

 

[Deleted member]

I remember all the way back post-E3 2014, I got in an argument regarding the Gematsu leak just before Monado Monday
It sure felt good for Captain Falcon to personally falcon slap everyone in the face

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I remember Monado Monday.
I thought Robin was Shulk.
Ah Good Times.

 

[LIQUID12A]

I can't be the only one who never gave a damn about Gematsu.

 

[Solfiner]

I only cared about Gematsu because of muh boy Shulk.

 

[Champ Gold]

I remember Monado Monday.
I thought Robin was Shulk.
Ah Good Times.

I thought that was Issac than Robin moreso


I forgot what an Elwind look like.

Yeah, I've always been pretty Pro-Gematsu too. Just because there were a few holes doesn't mean it's automatically illegitimate. It was right about quite a bit, and even the things it didn't get right were referenced later.

It's not like I didn't think it was the, like I said, that cult status made me hate the leak and then my bias against the Chorus Kids but that's something for another time

There was also the delusional Chrom fans who thought he was replacing the Radiant Hero.

You should know
Never **** with Ike and his fans. They love him more than a boring wannabe

 

[AreJay25]

I cared about Gematsu because it had quite a few characters I wanted.

 

[Deleted member]

I think the worst part about Gematsu are the Rythm Heaven fans that act like, suddenly, Chorus Men have a better chance of being in Smash, not only the series is not even that popular but it has much more recognizable and important characters

 

[ThePenguinGamer0]

I'm just glad the entire Gematsu leak didn't end up being true so my hopes could go up for Rayman.

 

[Kenith]

I'm just glad the entire Gematsu leak didn't end up being true so my hopes could go up for Rayman.

How does the Gematsu leak affect Rayman?

 

[Champ Gold]

How does the Gematsu leak affect Rayman?

I don't think he meant moreso of the Artsy Omni....

Actually I don't know what he means, explain further.

I think the worst part about Gematsu are the Rythm Heaven fans that act like, suddenly, Chorus Men have a better chance of being in Smash, not only the series is not even that popular but it has much more recognizable and important characters

YES. And they aren't mascots of the series. The franchise has NO mascot or definite standout character above the rest. You have memorable characters but no standouts.

Plus its popularity is due to its music which I'm still pissed that there's no stage dedicated to them

 

[Frostwraith]

Anyone who sees the Gematsu leak as true or false is wrong.

The leak is partially true and partially false. You can't see things in black or white for things like this.

 

[ThePenguinGamer0]

How does the Gematsu leak affect Rayman?

Rayman wasn't on the leak, correct?

In fact, this applies to every character that wasn't on the leak.

 

[Deleted member]

Anyone who sees the Gematsu leak as true or false is wrong.

The leak is partially true and partially false. You can't see things in black or white for things like this.

 

[Naoshi]

I think the worst part about Gematsu are the Rythm Heaven fans that act like, suddenly, Chorus Men have a better chance of being in Smash, not only the series is not even that popular but it has much more recognizable and important characters

Really? Rhythm Heaven is very popular in Japan. Way moreso than Fire Emblem. It definitely deserves something.

(Although just one character at most, Rhythm Heaven isn't character-centric, they just need a playable fighter with a moveset that greatly represents the franchise as a whole)

Anyone who sees the Gematsu leak as true or false is wrong.

The leak is partially true and partially false. You can't see things in black or white for things like this.

Yeah, I'm still going by the theory that the 2nd wave had outdated info or some misinformation.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I cared more about ESRB leaked characters moreso than Gematsu.

 

[Kenith]

I think the worst part about Gematsu are the Rythm Heaven fans that act like, suddenly, Chorus Men have a better chance of being in Smash, not only the series is not even that popular but it has much more recognizable and important characters

Actually, it's more that people suddenly started to think Chorus Kids were the character they never knew they wanted and they started supporting them in droves.
I don't get it. Why not the Wrestler & Reporter, or Karate Joe.

 

[Soul.]

ESRB leak is still the best leak, followed by the end of speculah thread which was never a big thing.