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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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Because its Reddit.

There really isn't any other good reason other than that lol.


If they did Wolf would already be in the game lol :p
i agree.

Just for fun.

Maybe a Source Gaming Article if he wants.
i'd figured as much. well carry on. i'll put in my vote on straw polls whenever they come up.
 

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Just because a character destroyed you so badly doesn't mean they should be banished from the game. Keep practicing and one day I'm sure you'll be able to defeat the good Doc. Until then, think happy thoughts and stay far away from anything negative.

Also, watch this, I think it'll help you a lot:
thats actually very condescending.Becuase i see him as just mario in a doctor outfit if he got cut i wouldnt care.I however can see why people want him here becuase they don't like FLUDD and i respect that.Like Wow that literally put me in a foul mood.
 
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The Smash subreddit has a habit of downvoting these sorts of things. I saw quite a few posts similar to this topic yesterday, and none of them got to the front page.
Because its Reddit.

There really isn't any other good reason other than that lol.


If they did Wolf would already be in the game lol :p
Ah well.

I don't care how many more votes I get as long as I get more honest votes.

Go ahead. :p
 

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Well it's been a about a half hour and the post hasn't really picked up any steam.

Gonna go to bed now, hopefully some actual progress will be made lol.
 
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@ PushDustIn PushDustIn

In the April Direct when Iwata talked about the ballot.

Did he use plural terms for the ballot? Meaning more than one character?
 
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In the April Direct when Iwata talked about the ballot.

Did he use plural terms for the ballot? Meaning more than one character?
This would be good to know.
So here's something that came to mind.

Do you all think that they would purposely hold off including certain characters as DLC so that they could be newcomers for Smash 5?
I don't think so. Each Smash game is treated as if it was the last and as long as Sakurai is the director, it will continue to be that way. So if King K. Rool were to not show up for DLC, this isn't because Sakurai wants to hold off on him as a selling point in Smash 5 but because he wasn't deemed worthy.

Inklings are really the only possible exceptions just because they are so new that I think Sakurai would be uncomfortable with adding them when Splatoon is in diapers (it is barely over a month old).
 

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Hey everyone! Long time no see. Sorry I haven't been around for a while, life has just been getting in the way a lot lately.
 

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Also, I'm going to be a butt and ask @ PushDustIn PushDustIn another quesiton.


Do the Japanese fans care what we want?

Are they aware of our wants?

Do they think our wants have value?
 

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So I got a bit of an out of the blue question for you guys... if all of the DLC had been only returning characters (Mewtwo Roy Lucas Wolf Snake Pichu Squrtle Ivysaur 2hot43ds Climbers etc), with NO new characters or ballot pics (not specifically anyway) How would you feel? As much as new characters excite me, it would certainly be amazing to see every single character in the series' history together at last.
 
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So I got a bit of an out of the blue question for you guys... if all of the DLC had been only returning characters (Mewtwo Roy Lucas Wolf Snake Pichu Squrtle Ivysaur 2hot43ds Climbers etc), with NO new characters or ballot pics (not specifically anyway) How would you feel? As much as new characters excite me, it would certainly be amazing to see every single character in the series' history together at last.
I'd honestly be disappointed. It's nice to see some cut veterans return but I'd prefer mostly new characters as DLC. I find it more exciting to see stuff I haven't experienced delivered rather than old stuff come back. Besides, if I really wanted to play as cut veterans I could just play the previous games.
 

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I'd honestly be disappointed. It's nice to see some cut veterans return but I'd prefer mostly new characters as DLC. I find it more exciting to see stuff I haven't experienced delivered rather than old stuff come back. Besides, if I really wanted to play as cut veterans I could just play the previous games.
Yeah, in the long run I think most of us would be dissapointed to an extent. It's what I honestly half expected with Mewtwo and Lucas's reveal in April though, so just food for thought.
 
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Also, I'm going to be a butt and ask @ PushDustIn PushDustIn another quesiton.


Do the Japanese fans care what we want?

Are they aware of our wants?

Do they think our wants have value?
First question, there are no plurals in Japanese. So we don't know.

Some care, others no. It's just like the Western side of Smash.

They are aware. The mega Smash Poll was translated into Japanese for example, and was talked about. I translated a thread about some Japanese users talking about a reddit poll. They didn't know who Shovel Knight was.
 

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If no characters are cut we can't be excited when they return in SSB5. Leave a few out so we can get hype in 6-8 years time.

#neverstopclimbing
 

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First question, there are no plurals in Japanese. So we don't know.

Some care, others no. It's just like the Western side of Smash.

They are aware. The mega Smash Poll was translated into Japanese for example, and was talked about. I translated a thread about some Japanese users talking about a reddit poll. They didn't know who Shovel Knight was.
Interesting.

How much effort would you say they put into learning the other side's tastes?

And what do they think about our tastes?

Like... Less of do they want such and such.

More of, do they think we're stupid for wanting such and such.
 

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Interesting.

How much effort would you say they put into learning the other side's tastes?

And what do they think about our tastes?

Like... Less of do they want such and such.

More of, do they think we're stupid for wanting such and such.
It comes up from time to time. It's the opposite of the English side. Some care others don't. They have requests that no one ask for in English too. Like the Puyo Puyo character. I really want to do some research but I've been too busy with all the projects I currently have. Maybe in a couple of weeks.
 

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So I got a bit of an out of the blue question for you guys... if all of the DLC had been only returning characters (Mewtwo Roy Lucas Wolf Snake Pichu Squrtle Ivysaur 2hot43ds Climbers etc), with NO new characters or ballot pics (not specifically anyway) How would you feel? As much as new characters excite me, it would certainly be amazing to see every single character in the series' history together at last.
I admit, it would be disappointing to have no new characters but as you said; It would be amazing to have every character all together in one game. That's one of the reason's I support all veterans. So I would still be very happy of the outcome even if there's no newcomers.
 

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A lot of Japanese devs don't really have awareness of fan reactions outside of Japan. It took until Twilight Princess for them to realise that Tingle was funny to people in Japan but distressing to American audiences.

It will be interesting to see as his is the first international survey instead of a Japan only one.
 

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If no characters are cut we can't be excited when they return in SSB5. Leave a few out so we can get hype in 6-8 years time.

#neverstopclimbing
There are more than enough characters under the Nintendo umbrella to be excited about without worrying about cutting characters just so they can return later.
 

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So I got a bit of an out of the blue question for you guys... if all of the DLC had been only returning characters (Mewtwo Roy Lucas Wolf Snake Pichu Squrtle Ivysaur 2hot43ds Climbers etc), with NO new characters or ballot pics (not specifically anyway) How would you feel? As much as new characters excite me, it would certainly be amazing to see every single character in the series' history together at last.
I don't want this. The last veteran that should come back is Wolf, and if they can swing it, Ice Climbers. Snake would be fun to have back, and I'd love a solo Squirtle, but we're fine without.

I'd rather move on to new territory.
 

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i've started playing chrono trigger. i'm pretty enamored. i just got to 2300 ad
Oh man, just wait until you get to the amazingness that is Magus' back story!

Also, I never really thought about, but that game really does have a lot of strong female characters... especially for a game that came out in 1995.
 

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So I got a bit of an out of the blue question for you guys... if all of the DLC had been only returning characters (Mewtwo Roy Lucas Wolf Snake Pichu Squrtle Ivysaur 2hot43ds Climbers etc), with NO new characters or ballot pics (not specifically anyway) How would you feel? As much as new characters excite me, it would certainly be amazing to see every single character in the series' history together at last.
I'd be pretty OK with it. Newcomers are cool but I miss what we lost more than I miss something we've never had.

Some of the veterans feel like legitimate holes in the roster, we've lost entire franchises with Snake and Ice Climbers, and unique movesets with Squirtle, Ivysaur and Wolf. Pichu and Young Link aren't necessarily holes, but the rest are IMO. The only newcomer I feel is actually needed is at least 1 DK one.

Newcomers aside from DK ones at this point in time are just gravy, veterans will add a greater sense of completion to the roster.
 
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One thing about Ivysaur, besides from the obvious of only been chosen to fill the gap between the much more popular Squirtle and Charizard, it's recovery move is a tether so if it did come bak it would not only need a new attack for the down B but it would need a standard recovery. Would they change up Vine Whip to be a Sheik style whip or cut it all together.
 

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I feel like we have an almost perfect roster now. The fact that we are getting even more characters is insane.
 
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One thing about Ivysaur, besides from the obvious of only been chosen to fill the gap between the much more popular Squirtle and Charizard, it's recovery move is a tether so if it did come bak it would not only need a new attack for the down B but it would need a standard recovery. Would they change up Vine Whip to be a Sheik style whip or cut it all together.
Doesn't Lucas have a Tether recover?
 

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So do both ZSS/Samus and Links.

He meant as a primary recovery since even Olimar doesn't have one anymore.
Ah, well I find it hard to believe that Sakurai couldn't think of a new recovery for Ivysaur anyway.
 
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