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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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Not really anything noteworthy in the new update apparently.
 
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Khoru said:
cultural relativism doesn't excuse the stuff being there to begin with?
let's take, say... madoka. madoka is a show about girls being punished for having self-agency, yet lots of westerners interpret it as empowering because it's from a different point of view. that doesn't make it any less ****ed up.
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Does it?

Look this is awful similar to Cutie Honey's case.

If you do t know what that is, it's an anime starring a heroine who's clothes get ripped to shreds every episode.

Western viewers don't like it.

Oddly japanese women loved it. Cutie became their idol.

They saw her as a positive role model. She was beautiful, confident, kind, and had a kick butt attitude.

And that's what she was intended to be with fan service being shoes in for the males.

Again, we hated it and thought it was the opposite. It hurt women.

Cultural relativism is real. It happns every day. Because the only power fiction has is the power and meaning we give it.



When the Little Mermaid was first released, feminists applauded Ariel's character. She was a princess who explored, went out and did things. She knew what she wanted and did what she could to get it.

Nowadays, she's seen as horribly sexist.

Fiction always had cultural relativism and always will.

If we can't appreciate fiction for what it is intended to be, we have no right to attacking what it can be. Otherwise, we become ego and ethnocentric. I'm not saying you can't be displeased by something. It's not exactly my cup of tea either, but attacking it when it isn't even shaped around our culture and beliefs is bad.

Regardless, none of this matters because of localization.
 
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I decided to drop in and see what was going on, and as I was reading this page I was getting all excited to go to sleep all hyped and wake up to a character or two found in the files.

Then I saw that there is apparently nothing there.

It's 11:53 PM where I live (oh no I said my location and someone will track me down and kill me) and I'm going to bed.
 
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LOL I just posted RTB's tweet on Reddit, and literally not a minute later someone posted a fake decryption. Wow.
 
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When the Little Mermaid was first released, feminists applauded Ariel's character. She was a princess who explored, went out and did things. She knew what she wanted and did what she could to get it.

Nowadays, she's seen as horribly sexist.

Fiction always had cultural relativism and always will.

If we can't appreciate fiction for what it is intended to be, we have no right to attacking what it can be. Otherwise, we become ego and ethnocentric. I'm not saying you can't be displeased by something. It's not exactly my cup of tea either, but attacking it when it isn't even shaped around our culture and beliefs is bad.

Regardless, none of this matters because of localization.
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I heard that if you go on Tumblr at midnight and say Yhcrairtap (pronounced "Eek-ra-ear-tap") 3 times, a feminist will be summoned and will call everything and everyone you love mysogonistic. #giveyourmoneytowomen #endfathersday #theseareactualhashtagsthatweretrendingontwitter
 
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Mega Bidoof said:
I heard that if you go on Tumblr at midnight and say Yhcrairtap (pronounced "Eek-ra-ear-tap") 3 times, a feminist will be summoned and will call everything and everyone you love mysogonistic. #giveyourmoneytowomen #endfathersday #theseareactualhashtagsthatweretrendingontwitter
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Alright, I vote we do NOT head in this direction.







So, is anyone here competing in EVO?
 
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So people are guessing that the update had something to do with this.


Not entirely implausible, but this was just 5 days ago...
 
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ThePenguinGamer0 said:
Pretty much.

It's wireless, so that's a plus. It also works with games outside of Smash.
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Honestly I love my pro controller. This may not be too bad. Only problem with the wireless controllers is syncing issues I would expect. Unless it functions differently than the pro controller.
 
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Akxareth said:
Wouldn't this count as rebalancing, in a weird way?
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I'd think so, but then I remembered something: Most, if not all, Wii U hacks were done on older firmware.

So if that hack was done on older firmware... Sakurai updated the game just so he could stop something that most people can't even do.

The more I think about it, the more pointless this patch seems.
 
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Found this on reddit.



Doesn't look TOO terrible... but the Ice Climbers look way too low-poly. Not to mention Ice Climbers in general, seeing as they would have to be Wii U exclusive methinks. And as for Pichu...

Uh...



Yeah

EDIT:

Well that lasted a solid 30 seconds.
 
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Tr1pleDee said:
Found this on reddit.



Doesn't look TOO terrible... but the Ice Climbers look way too low-poly. Not to mention Ice Climbers in general, seeing as they would have to be Wii U exclusive methinks. And as for Pichu...

Uh...



Yeah
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From the same Reddit thread.
 
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I'd be down for ICs if they took the time needed for them to work on 3DS. Maybe change them a bit, I dunno. Making a character exclusive to one version is kinda saying "we don't need the other one" imo
 
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Don't believe any datadumps that doesn't come from soneek, nwplayer, RandomTalkingbush, or crediar.I'm sure if there's something to find one of those guys will do it.
 
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Tr1pleDee said:
Found this on reddit.



Doesn't look TOO terrible... but the Ice Climbers look way too low-poly. Not to mention Ice Climbers in general, seeing as they would have to be Wii U exclusive methinks. And as for Pichu...

Uh...



Yeah

EDIT:

Well that lasted a solid 30 seconds.
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At least they didn't go for the generic 3DS blurry CSS screenshot lol
 
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Swampasaur said:
Fiction always had cultural relativism and always will.

If we can't appreciate fiction for what it is intended to be, we have no right to attacking what it can be. Otherwise, we become ego and ethnocentric. I'm not saying you can't be displeased by something. It's not exactly my cup of tea either, but attacking it when it isn't even shaped around our culture and beliefs is bad.

Regardless, none of this matters because of localization.
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I understand where you're coming from, I'm pretty sure I know what you're saying, and I agree to an extent, but they way you're saying it (to me at least) makes it seem like you think people have no right to criticize fiction, which I do not agree with. I know you said "attack", but contextually it seems like you're referring to "critique"

There's nothing wrong with critiquing fiction or anything or anyone else, regardless of whether you appreciate it or not. It's only potentially problematic when those critiques and words exchanges go beyond the topic or beyond words. I say "potentially" because there were moments in both the real and fictional worlds where critique has brought positive change: The fictional film I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang actually played a strong role removing the chain gang system and moving the US government to do more for it's veterans; and critique and difference of beliefs/culture concerning of the US slave system resulted in a war that resulted in my race being free.....though we were and honestly still are 2nd class citizens on far too many occasions.

Heck, I'm religious and many people see my faith as fictitious; does that mean that I or my religion can't be questioned, just because it's a belief that a critic may not share?

Cultural relativism is just a single point in a counter critique. A difference in beleifs doesnt make something inherently right, which mean it should at the very least be open to discussion.
 
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