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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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Yeah ...Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 , Sonic Colors , Sonic Generation ,Sonic Rush series , Unleashed and Lost World Didin't count ...

Project Diva isn't one of their best Arcade game

Chain Chronicle isn't one of the best mobile game in Japan

Right GUYS ?
To be fair, the only people I know who like those games are 18 and younger.
 

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To be fair, the only people I know who like those games are 18 and younger.
People who like those game are 18 and older in France ... Everybody in my age is "Call of Duty" " GTA" "LOL" "DOTA" "FIFA" ... they don't understand why i was hyped for Smash and the FFVII Remake :crying:
 

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Yeah ...Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 , Sonic Colors , Sonic Generation ,Sonic Rush series , Unleashed and Lost World Didin't count ...

Project Diva isn't one of their best Arcade game

Chain Chronicle isn't one of the best mobile game in Japan

Right GUYS ?
lol sonic rush series being a good game. You just press the boost button, unleashed has too many gimicks, don't get me stared on lost world. Project diva doesn't even count cause I'm sure most haven't played it and chain chronicle is a mobile game. So that doesn't count.
 

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Do you know where I can find the list? Just kind of curious on what characters are in which order XD.
Second this request. @ Das Koopa Das Koopa Are you talking about the Instance Slots? If so Wolf is one above Dixie. Also, Wolf was decloned during Brawls development....originally he shared a lot of animations with Fox (TCRF)
 
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A good comparison to Federation Force, in my opinion, would be if this was the first Zelda game that was released since Ocarina of Time.

 
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May not be a leak for Smash Bros, but there is something we can discuss whether it's real or fake.

Supposedly, children are confirmed for Fates. But it's not confirmed if it's real or fake.
 
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Silly random thought I had.

You know what would be a hilarious stage for Smash?

How about Bomberman 3D? The White Bomber's first foray into 3D happened over a decade before Mario's!


(Also, it wouldn't be owned by Microsoft, lol.)
 

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How about Bomberman 3D? The White Bomber's first foray into 3D happened over a decade before Mario's!


(Also, it wouldn't be owned by Microsoft, lol.)
That's, uh.... something.

That green enemy scared the crap out of me lol.
 

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Woah, when looking at those instance slots it looks as though Wolf was basically a forbidden 7 character, but one that actually made it.

Perhaps Sakurai had 8 characters in mind that couldn't make it in time, and had to chose one of the 8 because that's all they had time for when they added Sonic (and decided on Wolf)?

EDIT: Just noticed that Purin (Jiggs) and Toon Link are also among the forbidden 7, so maybe it was going to be forbidden 10 and he just chose 3 out of them.
 
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Yeah ...Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 , Sonic Colors , Sonic Generation ,Sonic Rush series , Unleashed and Lost World Didin't count ...

Project Diva isn't one of their best Arcade game

Chain Chronicle isn't one of the best mobile game in Japan

Right GUYS ?
One more thing, he said ever since the dreamcast went belly up and you count sonic adventure 1 and 2...? Those are dreamcast games >_>

Sonic Colors/Generations yeah, I'll give you those. Those were very well received. However Sonic Unleashed was VERY mixed, lots of negative reactions, same to Lost World.

Even though I don't like Sonic Rush 1 at all, but I'll give you that since many seem to like it to this day. It had more praise than otherwise which makes it qualify.

Going back to the whole Metroid situation, TheAnvil's point is basically that Metroid had ONE really bad game that tarnished the brand (Other M. The rest of the bad games which might be just Prime Hunters did not hurt the franchise) while Sonic had multiple.

The fan reaction to that 3DS game is kind of out of control, I can see why some of the anger because the timing is wrong and there is no real benefit for the franchise to receive a random spinoff when fans has been waiting several years for another good mainline Metroid game. But Metroid's track record, despite Other M, hasn't been so bad. Meanwhile Sonic's track record is far far worse.

With all that said, I am disappointed too, but I think a lot of the Metroid fans should give this game a chance instead of petitioning to cancel it. It's really petty. Most of Metroid's games has been very good and there is a chance this one will be fun too. Metroid is not in the same situation as Sonic.
 
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Woah, when looking at those instance slots it looks as though Wolf was basically a forbidden 7 character, but one that actually made it.

Perhaps Sakurai had 8 characters in mind that couldn't make it in time, and had to chose one of the 8 because that's all they had time for when they added Sonic (and decided on Wolf)?

EDIT: Just noticed that Purin (Jiggs) and Toon Link are also among the forbidden 7, so maybe it was going to be forbidden 10 and he just chose 3 out of them.
Yeah, it's generally thought that Jiggs, Tink, and Wolf were last minute additions, and that's why they don't have an active role in SSE.

Someone, I think it may have been @Johnknight1, made a mention in one of the old leak group threads of the development team actively forgoing Roy's continued development since they had limited time and felt that the other options were more interesting. I'm not sure were this information originated from, though.
 

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Someone, I think it may have been @Johnknight1, made a mention in one of the old leak group threads of the development team actively forgoing Roy's continued development since they had limited time and felt that the other options were more interesting. I'm not sure were this information originated from, though.
Gonna need an actual source besides Johnknight1 on this one.

I don't recall any of the Forbidden 7 getting an official explanation except for Dixie Kong.
 

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Yeah, it's generally thought that Jiggs, Tink, and Wolf were last minute additions, and that's why they don't have an active role in SSE.

Someone, I think it may have been @Johnknight1, made a mention in one of the old leak group threads of the development team actively forgoing Roy's continued development since they had limited time and felt that the other options were more interesting. I'm not sure were this information originated from, though.
I don't want to imagine a Smash Bros Brawl without Jigglypuff, Toon Link, Wolf and Sonic.
 

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Gonna need an actual source besides Johnknight1 on this one.

I don't recall any of the Forbidden 7 getting an official explanation except for Dixie Kong.
Oh, I agree. It would seem odd that anyone would have that info when I hadn't heard about it from other sources, and I honestly don't recall the specifics of the situation. It's just what I remember being said.

I'm not actively out trying to spread misinformation.
 
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Woah, when looking at those instance slots it looks as though Wolf was basically a forbidden 7 character, but one that actually made it.

Perhaps Sakurai had 8 characters in mind that couldn't make it in time, and had to chose one of the 8 because that's all they had time for when they added Sonic (and decided on Wolf)?

EDIT: Just noticed that Purin (Jiggs) and Toon Link are also among the forbidden 7, so maybe it was going to be forbidden 10 and he just chose 3 out of them.
The Forbidden 7 have varying levels of completion, so I don't think it was a case of them all being cut at the same time.

Signs point towards Roy and Mewtwo being the second-to-last and final cut to the roster respectively.
 

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The Forbidden 7 have varying levels of completion, so I don't think it was a case of them all being cut at the same time.

Signs point towards Roy and Mewtwo being the second-to-last and final cut to the roster respectively.
That makes sense
 

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The Forbidden 7 have varying levels of completion, so I don't think it was a case of them all being cut at the same time.

Signs point towards Roy and Mewtwo being the second-to-last and final cut to the roster respectively.
We should also remember that character priority in Brawl does not always correlate with character priority in Smash 4.

Toon Link was one of the first returning vets we saw this go around, and Lucas, who was not a last minute character, was cut.
 

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The sad thing about that Metroid petition is how due to Nintendo being super out of touch with listening...

They'll take that petition as "Oh, they don't want any new Metroid game"
 

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The sad thing about that Metroid petition is how due to Nintendo being super out of touch with listening...

They'll take that petition as "Oh, they don't want any new Metroid game"
No, they probably really don't care. I don't blame them.
 

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The only way MPFF is getting cancelled is if the petitioners go to Next Level Games HQ and cancel it themselves.
 

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The sad thing about that Metroid petition is how due to Nintendo being super out of touch with listening...

They'll take that petition as "Oh, they don't want any new Metroid game"
And then they proceed to remove "Metroid Prime" from the title. The game still comes out as "Federation Force" and "Blast Ball", but the Metroid series is put back on hiatus, this time indefinitely.

:awesome:
 

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And then they proceed to remove "Metroid Prime" from the title. The game still comes out as "Federation Force" and "Blast Ball", but the Metroid series is put back on hiatus, this time indefinitely.

:awesome:
That or no one will buy it still.
 

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We should also remember that character priority in Brawl does not always correlate with character priority in Smash 4.

Toon Link was one of the first returning vets we saw this go around, and Lucas, who was not a last minute character, was cut.

Remember how people thought :4myfriends::4zss::4sheik:&:4lucario: were supposed to be cut? Remember how :4mewtwo: was gonna replace :4lucario:, Chrom was supposed to replace :4myfriends:, :wolf: was supposed to replace :4falco: and everything regarding :4darkpit:.

So either we didn't understand Sakurai or....
Or Smash speculation is BULLS***
 

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Everyone who signed that petition will at least end up playing that game once in their life. I mean after all what kind of Metroid fans would you be if you gave Other M a shot and didn't give that game a shot?

''BUT IT HAS SAMUS!" they cry.

Yeah, a vastly OOC Samus.
 

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Remember how people thought :4myfriends::4zss::4sheik:&:4lucario: were supposed to be cut? Remember how :4mewtwo: was gonna replace :4lucario:, Chrom was supposed to replace :4myfriends:, :wolf: was supposed to replace :4falco: and everything regarding :4darkpit:.

So either we didn't understand Sakurai or....
Or Smash speculation is BULLS***
I don't remember hearing people actually guess that Falco would be cut or replaced.

I did see it in a lot of dream rosters, but it usually wasn't Wolf replacing him. The rosters I saw usually had Krystal replace either Falco or Wolf (or both).

And it wasn't Sheik I remember hearing people talk about potentially being cut. It was Toon Link.
 
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Remember how people thought :4myfriends::4zss::4sheik:&:4lucario: were supposed to be cut? Remember how :4mewtwo: was gonna replace :4lucario:, Chrom was supposed to replace :4myfriends:, :wolf: was supposed to replace :4falco: and everything regarding :4darkpit:.

So either we didn't understand Sakurai or....
Or Smash speculation is BULLS***
If anyone thought Lucario was going to be cut after Mega Evolutions were announced, they had rocks for brains.
 

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Metroid fans should flock out and buy the hell out of this Metroid game, show Nintendo that the brand actually has staying power.
 

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And it wasn't Sheik I remember hearing people talk about potentially being cut. It was Toon Link.
And if I remember correctly he was the first clone veteran revealed.

He might have even been the second Brawl vet revealed? Wasn't it Olimar then him?
 

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And if I remember correctly he was the first clone veteran revealed.

He might have even been the second Brawl vet revealed? Wasn't it Olimar then him?
Actually Luigi was the first clone reveal. But he could be a special case, I guess.

And yeah, Toon Link was the second Brawl veteran.
 

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And if I remember correctly he was the first clone veteran revealed.

He might have even been the second Brawl vet revealed? Wasn't it Olimar then him?
He was revealed early on, but I remember it being a popular theory prior to his reveal that he would be cut.

Especially after he was spotted on Spirit Train.
 
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