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[Metal Shop X]

Eh.

Richter might be mashpotato nepotism but after Simon ****ing Belmont and the deluge of Castlevania love overall (look me in the eyes and tell me they didn't break their ***** backwards on Dracula's Castle) I'll give it a pass.

People wanted Chrom and this got him in, and the fact that he echoes more than one character demonstrates that Echo Fighters can have multiple influences, which itself is a hype concept and opens a whole new floor of speculation. Those reasons alone justify him to me.

I'd say Dark Samus felt kinda tacked to me, but now that Rids is on board you're kind of hard up for Metroid reps at this point without making fresh movesets for the Hunters or something, which takes serious dev and playtesting time. Plus people wanted her. I suppose. I never completed the Prime trilogy, I missed the memo on where her hype stems from.

Overall, if they're taking advantage of it...good. Bring me more.

You wanna be mad about something roster wise though, I gotchu.

Take a look at Alucard, Zero, Shovel Knight, and Knux.

Then tell me how comparatively little a push they would've needed to hit that playable character mark.

Guarantee there's not an Echo in the roster to blame for any of em. Someone just couldn't finish or balance the movepool in time.

Dark Samus represent the entire Prime Trilogy, since she is actually the Metroid Prime and thus, was the main vilain of all 3 games.

Dark Samus is a vilain, and more vilains are always welcome.

In all games, the Metroid Prime/Dark Samus is generally seen as either a terrifying foes or a really cunning vilain. For exemple, in Prime 3, she take control of ALL of the space pirates (including Ridley) + 3 of Samus's allies (slowy I might add). Heck, she even infect Samus, which almost cause her to become a copy of Dark Samus.

Dark clone of character, if cliched, are generally popular, especially in fighting game.

An in all, she was always seen as the second best choice after Ridley, since she is one of the very few recurring characters in the franchise. Which was a big deal since Metroid doesn't have many iconic character that could become playable.

Brief, that's the memo for ya. 'Don't say you need to be excited for her, but I thought giving you reasons as to why DS was so requested could help you EXPAND your mind.

 

[Deleted member]

I really can't be mad at any of the Echo Fighters because their presentation makes them feel like they were planned from the start. If I had to bet, I'd say it all started with Sakurai wanting to add Richter(since he's the only one in a trailer so far) but that would be hard to justify by himself so he said "**** it" and made a bunch more. I mean, I think it would have been much more hype to have shown Dark Samus back on the Ridley trailer tbh.

Only thing that it makes me disappointed is that DSamus has none of her AT moves, Chrom got his cutscene Aether, at least give her that tentacle Down Smash.

Chrom was initially dissapointing to me... until I saw he was a Roy Echo with one of Ike's specials. Echoes don't need to be 1:1 as long as every move rips off someone's and that's actually made me warm up to the concept of Echoes since not every new Echo will be identical copies like Richter and Pittoo. He also probably has the same thing as Lucina by dealing the same damage through the whole blade, which basically makes him better :V

Actually, something people keep missing is the fact that's NOT Ike's Aether.
Everytime we see him using it, Chrom always does an unrecognizable upwards slash before jumping, and he doesn't throw his sword like Ike. Moves don't even need to be 1:1, they just need to be based on another one.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Actually, something people keep missing is the fact that's NOT Ike's Aether.
Everytime we see him using it, Chrom always does an unrecognizable upwards slash before jumping, and he doesn't throw his sword like Ike. Moves don't even need to be 1:1, they just need to be based on another one.

Yeah, it's not exactly Ike's Aether, I know that.

But it's still obviously the influence here... well, either that or Mii Swordfighter :V

 

[redfeatherraven]

Dark Samus represent the entire Primy Trilogy, since she is actually the Metroid Prime and thus, was the main vilain of all 3 games.

Dark Samus is a vilain, and more vilains are always welcome.

In all games, the Metroid Prime/Dark Samus is generally seen as either a terrifying foes or a really cunning vilain. For exemple, in Prime 3, she take control of ALL of the space pirates (including Ridley) + 3 of Samus's allies (slowy I might add). Heck, she even infect Samus, which almost cause her to become a copy of Dark Samus.

Dark clone of character, if cliched, are generally popular, especially in fighting game.

An in all, she was always seen as the second best choice after Ridley, since she is one of the very few recurring characters in the franchise. Which was a big deal since Metroid doesn't have many iconic character that could become playable.

Brief, that's the memo for ya. 'Don't say you need to be excited for her, but I thought giving you reasons as to why DS was so requested could help you EXPAND your mind.

Aight. That makes sense.

Would still need to play the Prime games through to really hit overdrive on that hype train myself, but that's enough justification for me.

Moves don't even need to be 1:1, they just need to be based on another one.

Did you know that they haven't censored penis yet?

It's okay, Red's here to remind you.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Shadow as a Sonic Echo with a teleport up B when? :^)

 

[redfeatherraven]

Shadow as a Sonic Echo with a teleport up B when? :^)

And Chaos Control based on Witch Time.

We're in a brave new world mother****ers.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

And Chaos Control based on Witch Time.

We're in a brave new world mother****ers.

I'd be fine with Shadow having a Witch Time-like move because a teleport up B would mean no ladder combos, so he'd be FAR less cancerous :V

 

[PLATINUM7]

And Chaos Control based on Witch Time.

We're in a brave new world mother****ers.

Aren't echoes with some different moves basically just how clones were before?

Same brave world.

 

[Metal Shop X]

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Aight. That makes sense.

Would still need to play the Prime games through to really hit overdrive on that hype train myself, but that's enough justification for me.

Did you know that they haven't censored penis yet?

It's okay, Red's here to remind you.

"Fun fact", I actually only played a bit of MP1, never trying MP2 & 3. But since I'm a total loser very passionate person when it come to things I like, I read/saw countless things on the Metroid Prime/Dark Samus to see what their character was about.

I say that because, I do this alot when it come to franchise I love, but I sadly can't get into the games/movies/books/etc..for whatever reason. As much of a Metroid fan I am now (I played every 2D Metroid beside the original Metroid 2, heck, I played AM2R & Samus Return), the MP Trilogy isn't a easy one to enter, and I honestly wouldn't blame you if you haven't tried yet or if you had a hard time getting into it. It takes times (and a Wii/emulator) to get the feeling of those games, but it can be worth it once you do, just for the amount of care and love each game of the Trilogy have in them. Aswell that, despite being 3D and in first person, you can still tell it's a Metroid game.

Shadow as a Sonic Echo with a teleport up B when? :^)

Dixe Echo Fighter of Diddy with DK Up-B when?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Aren't echoes with some different moves basically just how clones were before?

Same brave world.

Movesets were mostly 1:1 for clones in Melee animation-wise, with only one non-special move having different animations for Pichu (up smash), Ganon (jab) and Roy (also jab)

Brawl had no true clone

Smash 4 had two identical copies and only one example of what you just said; Dr. Mario

 

[redfeatherraven]

Aren't echoes with some different moves basically just how clones were before?

Same brave world.

But this is the first time I've ever bothered speculating.

If I haven't seen it, it's new to me.

Brawl had no true clone

Brawl did take efforts to declone prior clones.

That may be what Plat's getting at, if he's thinking about Ganon, Falco, or Lucas as primary examples.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Brawl did take efforts to declone prior clones.

That may be what Plat's getting at, if he's thinking about Ganon, Falco, or Lucas as primary examples.

Except none of those are branded as Echo Fighters since they have more than enough unique things about themselves to be more than a mere echo

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Btw, calling it now, Squad Strike, FS Meter and Stage Morphing will all be banned because "I DON'T LIKE CHANGE AND EFFORT"

 

[PLATINUM7]

Movesets were mostly 1:1 for clones in Melee, with only one non-special move having different animations for Pichu (up smash), Ganon (jab) and Roy (also jab)

Brawl had no true clone

Smash 4 had two identical copies and only one example of what you just said; Dr. Mario

Chrom appears to be a Melee level clone, or at least a lot closer to it than the other echoes.

And we're still living in this world with Melee. So the possibility of more distinct echoes isn't really much of a paradigm shift.

EDIT: Ganondorf also had Mario's fair in Melee. I bring it up not for my point but because misinformation is annoying.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Except none of those are branded as Echo Fighters since they have more than enough unique things about themselves to be more than a mere echo

Well, yes. Now.

But in Melee, Ganon and Falco would've qualified.

More importantly, as soon as you start getting into things like piecemeal movesets, we're starting to blur the lines a bit anyway. How many things do you have to rob from differing characters before your moveset gets unique enough to qualify you as your own thing?

Btw, calling it now, Squad Strike, FS Meter and Stage Morphing will all be banned because "I DON'T LIKE CHANGE AND EFFORT"

I fully expect Squad Strike to be a side-event. People already do it. It'll get more love now.

Other hand, FS Meter and Stage Morphing, amazing as they are, I agree with you on. However, they do have the advantage over Customs that they won't be reliant on what's basically gacha to get them - fire up the cart, they're right there. It may be enough to see testing, if not traction.

Chrom appears to be a Melee level clone, or at least a lot closer to it than the other echoes.

And we're still living in this world with Melee. So the possibility of more distinct echoes isn't really much of a paradigm shift.

EDIT: Ganondorf also had Mario's fair in Melee. I bring it up not for my point but because misinformation is annoying.

Yes, yes, fine.

Lemme have my fun.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Also I'm doing a twitter poll for people who want to main Richter over Simon, I'd embed it but I put swears in the tweet
https://twitter.com/AnnugaTK/status/1027514091353632769?s=19
Please share it, I want to see some results

 

[redfeatherraven]

Also I'm doing a twitter poll for people who want to main Richter over Simon

Man.

I just realized Richter is going to be the loneliest-ass character forum I think I'll ever see.

That's sad when you think about it.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Man.

I just realized Richter is going to be the loneliest-*** character forum I think I'll ever see.

That's sad when you think about it.

Ritcher & Simon share the same forum.

So...it depend if Simon is well-liked enough.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Man.

I just realized Richter is going to be the loneliest-*** character forum I think I'll ever see.

That's sad when you think about it.

Don't worry fam it's merged with Simon's

 

[Zinith]

I think Richter will end up being more popular

 

[Aurane]

It occurs to me.

Aurane inform Rick we've found him a main.

Told him.

Lol nah man I'm good. I already have my main.

...who is Mega Man, by the by.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Ritcher & Simon share the same forum.

Don't worry fam it's merged with Simon's

Phew, glad to hear that.

I don't need anymore heartbreak in my life, I got plenty.

Told him.

...who is Mega Man, by the by.

Note to self: lab the Mega Man Matchup.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So, almost 24 hours have passed since the direct, and Im still at disbelief tbh.

I've moved on pretty quick. Friend tried to get me all excited about it last night but I just couldn't do it.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Speaking of echoes...

First off, my Metroid Prime 2 joke on one of my old post aged like fine vine, mostly.

Second and most important off, to the peoples who have played XB2 here:

Do you think that

Spoiler: Xenoblade 2 Spoiler

Malos has a chance as a echo of Shulk?

Don't get me wrong, I want a unique XB2 character in the future, but since XB2 seem too recent compared to when the roster was decided and that Elma seem to be the more likely pick. What if Sakurai throw us a bone and gave us Malos as a echo fighter of Shulk to save developpement time?

 

[redfeatherraven]

Second and most important off, to the peoples who have played XB2 here:

Do you think that

Spoiler: Xenoblade 2 Spoiler

Malos has a chance as a echo of Shulk?

Spoiler

I see what you're getting at, but I sincerely doubt it nonetheless.

Won't complain if they prove me wrong, but I expect any XC2 character to be DLC or nonexistent, and I can't see any reason they'd pick Malos without picking a protagonist first, Echo or not.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Spoiler

I see what you're getting at, but I sincerely doubt it nonetheless.

Won't complain if they prove me wrong, but I expect any XC2 character to be DLC or nonexistent, and I can't see any reason they'd pick Malos without picking a protagonist first, Echo or not.

Spoiler

Yeah, that's the big problem right here.

I say it depend if DLC are announced or not, if they are, and a protagonist from XB2 (not necessarily Rex, imo, I think everyone in the main cast have a fair chance) is announced too, Malos could be given as a free DLC to generate interest for the original newcomer. If no DLC though, then it really depend if Sakurai really want to represent XB2 in any way possible, but just doesn't have enough time to make a original fighter. Kinda like how clones were made in Melee if you prefer.

In any case, I just hope we get a new XB character, can be 1, X, 2, anything, I just need one.

 

[Deleted member]

I saw this in the general discussion thread and

No Simon is kinda iffy, especially since the guy said the Echo Fighters were put below their original, but guessing Richter is what makes me give it credit

 

[Metal Shop X]

btw, this is fanmade for the most part but...

I think this image really sell you about what echoes are. (still weird to see Chrom as a echo of Roy while Chrom is a mix of Marth, Roy & Ike tho lol)

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Me playing Okami HD:

 

[Deleted member]

My dream was so weird.

 

[Aurane]

So I have this chicken farm in Minecraft, and what it does is it stores a group of chickens that lay eggs into hoppers. The hoppers are connected to a dispenser, which fires the egg onto half a slab. Sometimes, the egg will hatch into a chick. The chick then grows up and immediately dies because above the half slab is a bucket of lava which the chicks aren't big enough to touch. The chicken's feathers and meat fall into a hopper under the slab, and into a chest. The meat is always cooked.

So in conclusion, PETA doesn't like me.

 

[Deleted member]

Natz~ and Verde Coeden Scalesworth were in my dream.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So I have this chicken farm in Minecraft, and what it does is it stores a group of chickens that lay eggs into hoppers. The hoppers are connected to a dispenser, which fires the egg onto half a slab. Sometimes, the egg will hatch into a chick. The chick then grows up and immediately dies because above the half slab is a bucket of lava which the chicks aren't big enough to touch. The chicken's feathers and meat fall into a hopper under the slab, and into a chest. The meat is always cooked.

So in conclusion, PETA doesn't like me.

that... is the smartest way to cook chicken in minecraft Ive ever heard dude

 

[Deleted member]

that... is the smartest way to cook chicken in minecraft Ive ever heard dude

The most efficient way is to use a Fire Aspect Sword with Looting III and just slaughter chickens in the wild, loool.

 

[Metal Shop X]

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— ゼノブレイド総合 (@XenobladeJP) August 9, 2018

Why does the soldiers from the past are cooler than the one in the present?

Also, nice artwork for Hugo, about time we saw more of him.

 

[redfeatherraven]

So I have this chicken farm in Minecraft, and what it does is it stores a group of chickens that lay eggs into hoppers. The hoppers are connected to a dispenser, which fires the egg onto half a slab. Sometimes, the egg will hatch into a chick. The chick then grows up and immediately dies because above the half slab is a bucket of lava which the chicks aren't big enough to touch. The chicken's feathers and meat fall into a hopper under the slab, and into a chest. The meat is always cooked.

So in conclusion, PETA doesn't like me.

I know I've seen that design before.

Was it one of Mumbo's by chance?

 

[Ura]

So I guess the Monster Hunter stage is coming post-release?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

With all these bosses, I hope they bring back boss battles mode. :v

 

[Ura]

The question is if that stage we saw was exclusive to a new mode or a regular stage being released post-launch.

 

[ChikoLad]

Internet.exe has broken.

Is it just me or does Richter look a bit familiar in #SmashBrosUltimate pic.twitter.com/H6yBRuNvsj

— Bleo (@TrueBleo) August 9, 2018