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[praline]

>Fire Emblm Musou game that FE fans would enjoy.
>Only units from Fates, Awakening and Shadow Dragon and the Sword of Light.

Riiiiiiiight.

 

[Opossum]

In Heroes news, since Celica's banner is over, Boey and Mae were added to the four star pool. That's nice, because now I actually have a reasonable shot of getting two of Shadows of Valentia's best characters. Alm, Celica, and Genny staying five stars is disheartening but not unexpected. Faye can rot there for all I care, but those other three are definitely still on my wish list.

And Frederick. For whatever reason I've yet to pull Frederick. I'm curious to see whether I'll pull him or Boey first.

 

[praline]

If nothing else, this makes roster prediction easier. Prediction time.

OCs: Shion, Lian, OC Villain (Darios? Yuana?), the other one.
Shadow Dragon: Marth, Caeda, Tiki, Merric, Linde, Draug
Awakening: Chrom, Robin, Lucina, Frederick, Tharja, Lissa/Virion
Fates: Corrin, Ryoma, Xander, Azura, Takumi, Camilla

And then for villains, GGG. Gharnef, Gangrel, Garon.

This is assuming it's taking the Hyrule Warriors route of "small but unique" roster like the sword and game comment implies. Even if other characters are added, I still think a decent roster can be made from these three games alone, in a worst case scenario. That being said it covers basically all bases.

Swords: Marth, Chrom, Lucina, Corrin, Ryoma, Xander, Gangrel, Shion, Lian
Axes: Frederick, Camilla, Garon
Lances: Caeda, Draug, Azura
Bows: (Virion), Takumi
Tomes: Merric (Wind), Linde (Light), Robin (Thunder), Tharja (Dark), Gharnef (Dark)
Staves: (Lissa)
Dragonstones: Tiki, Corrin
Hidden Weapons: None (OC?)

It also fills most if not all Fire Emblem archetypes.

Lords: Marth, Chrom, Lucina, Corrin, Shion, Lian
Paladins: Frederick, Xander
Archers: (Virion), Takumi
Clerics: (Lissa)
Mages: Merric, Linde, Robin, Tharja, Gharnef
Pegasus Knights: Caeda
Wyvern Riders: Camilla
Generals: Draug
Swordmasters: Ryoma
Thieves: Gangrel
Manaketes/Dragons/Transforming: Tiki, Corrin
Dancer/Songstress: Azura

And then the OC villain and the other OC can do whatever isn't filled. The only major thing I think is missing is a Fire Mage (come on, Celica DLC...). The reason I have it as Lissa/Virion is this: if Staves, non-combat weapons, are used, then Lissa. If not, then Virion, since two archers is fine and they push him a lot.
RIP class-based game though.

If Tharja, Lucina, Azura and Camilla are all playable then I'm ok with Ike and Lyn being dlc.

 

[Opossum]

If Tharja, Lucina, Azura and Camilla are all playable then I'm ok with Ike and Lyn being dlc.

For what it's worth I can see a "Fan Favorite" DLC Pack including Ike, Roy, Lyn, and Hector, considering those were the highest ranking characters in the Heroes poll that more than likely won't be in the base game. That and an Alm and Celica pack, and maybe a FE16 one when that game comes out. And maybe an Eirika/Ephraim Sacred Stones one.


RIP Jugdral though.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

If Tharja, Lucina, Azura and Camilla are all playable then I'm ok with Ike and Lyn being dlc.

As long as Niles or Jakob show up(which they probably wont) then Im good

 

[Wario Bros.]

Nintendo reveal some more details about the ARMS Global Testpunch:

First, Mechanica had the highest win percentage of all characters (MUH MAIN BAYBEE!)

Second, Min Min's Ramen Bowl stage will be added to this weekend's Global Testpunch

 

[praline]

I GOT BRIDE CHARLOTTE FIRST TRY!

For what it's worth I can see a "Fan Favorite" DLC Pack including Ike, Roy, Lyn, and Hector, considering those were the highest ranking characters in the Heroes poll that more than likely won't be in the base game. That and an Alm and Celica pack, and maybe a FE16 one when that game comes out. And maybe an Eirika/Ephraim Sacred Stones one.


RIP Jugdral though.

Yeah I'd be fine with that.

 

[Wario Bros.]

The unlock method for

in Super Smash Flash 2 Beta has been revealed:

You must beat Classic Mode on Normal or harder selecting Random with no continues.

It's worth noting that, unlike the official games, selecting random in Classic Mode will make you a different character each round.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Play post game of Echoes
Bring Celica along because she's a useful unit
Have a strategy when anyone gets fatigued
Get on the seventh floor of the final dungeon
Celica gets crit
Celica wasn't a mandatory unit anymore but I still get a game over
Mfw I just wasted about 2 hours

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

First, Mechanica had the highest win percentage of all characters (

not that hard when she shakes off hits

 

[praline]

not that hard when she shakes off hits

Mechanica whenever I faced her basically guaranteed a loss... and I only played as Master Mummy!

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Mechanica whenever I faced her basically guaranteed a loss... and I only played as Master Mummy!

its a guaranteed loss for me with any Mech or Mummy. Only recently did I succesfully kill a mummy. Havent been able to kill a Mech though

 

[Robertman2]

The unlock method for

in Super Smash Flash 2 Beta has been revealed:

You must beat Classic Mode on Normal or harder selecting Random with no continues.

It worth noting that, unlike the official games, selecting random in Classic Mode will make you a different character each round.

Sounds easy enough

As long as Niles or Jakob show up(which they probably wont) then Im good

Niles has a decent chance

 

[Aetheri]

Nintendo reveal some more details about the ARMS Global Testpunch:

First, Mechanica had the highest win percentage of all characters (MUH MAIN BAYBEE!)

Second, Min Min's Ramen Bowl stage will be added to this weekend's Global Testpunch

Mechanica is pretty damn good actually...she's got pretty decent mobility both on the ground and in the air, especially for a heavy...she also has some pretty decent Arms available to her...that Whammer though...

 

[Robert of Normandy]

So, FE Musou is looking like it's going to be SD/Awakening/Fates only, huh? Can't say I'm surprised. Seems reasonable to me that they'd start with a relatively small number of games and bring in a bunch of unique characters from those rather than having to bring in Lord's from a whole bunch of games(let's be honest, it's not like there's a huge amount of variety when it comes to the MCs of each game). Hopefully more games will get representation via DLC.

As for who I want to see, I'm hoping that Merric, Minerva, Hardin, Camus, Linde, Tiki, Caeda, and the Whitewings will all be playable in some form. I'd also like to see Xane and Julian playable but I'm not holding my breath on those two at all.

One question I have is if they're specifically only including SD characters or if Mystery/BSFE characters might appear as well, being from the same setting and all. Not that there are too many Mystery only characters that are that important anyway.

 

[Moydow]

Play post game of Echoes
Bring Celica along because she's a useful unit
Have a strategy when anyone gets fatigued
Get on the seventh floor of the final dungeon
Celica gets crit
Celica wasn't a mandatory unit anymore but I still get a game over
Mfw I just wasted about 2 hours
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This is why I fed Celica tons of +Def boosts (I got her to like 25 Def by the end), and even then I barely ever had her fight at close range. Also her bond support with Alm gives her +20 crit and +10 crit dodge (so maybe one or two enemies in the entire dungeon have anything other than 0 crit against her), so I kept them close together as well.

Safest strategy is probably to make a few trips, getting all the treasure the first few times and exiting to save and heal fatigue, and then making one last trip in where you just avoid all the battles and run straight to the final boss. Something similar to what you'd do in a certain other game involving exploring a huge, deadly labyrinth, but since you aren't able to survive that either...

 

[Robertman2]

Sonic Mania is only 14.99 on Steam

 

[Coricus]

So, FE Musou is looking like it's going to be SD/Awakening/Fates only, huh? Can't say I'm surprised. Seems reasonable to me that they'd start with a relatively small number of games and bring in a bunch of unique characters from those rather than having to bring in Lord's from a whole bunch of games(let's be honest, it's not like there's a huge amount of variety when it comes to the MCs of each game). Hopefully more games will get representation via DLC.

As for who I want to see, I'm hoping that Merric, Minerva, Hardin, Camus, Linde, Tiki, Caeda, and the Whitewings will all be playable in some form. I'd also like to see Xane and Julian playable but I'm not holding my breath on those two at all.

One question I have is if they're specifically only including SD characters or if Mystery/BSFE characters might appear as well, being from the same setting and all. Not that there are too many Mystery only characters that are that important anyway.

Xane. . .now that makes me wonder. . .

Would a character that fights by turning themselves into a clone of someone else on the field be more or less work to make?

 

[Wario Bros.]

Sonic Mania is only 14.99 on Steam
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I was expecting about $20-$30, honestly.

I ain't complaining though.

 

[Robertman2]

I was expecting about $20-$30, honestly.

I ain't complaining though.

I'm probably grabbing it on Steam, PS4 and Switch now

 

[Deleted member]

The unlock method for

in Super Smash Flash 2 Beta has been revealed:

You must beat Classic Mode on Normal or harder selecting Random with no continues.

It's worth noting that, unlike the official games, selecting random in Classic Mode will make you a different character each round.

That actually sounds fun, I did Classic with Black Mage yesterday and it was pretty easy

Also, can I talk about how I freaking love BM? He's such a perfect representation of the classic series and I wish he was in the official games. From the "Miss" spotdodge to the Death Scyther DAir or the Poison DThrow.

Play post game of Echoes
Bring Celica along because she's a useful unit
Have a strategy when anyone gets fatigued
Get on the seventh floor of the final dungeon
Celica gets crit
Celica wasn't a mandatory unit anymore but I still get a game over
Mfw I just wasted about 2 hours
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Neither Celica or Alm are mandatory, just one of them.
It's no different to Lyn and Hector/Eliwood in FE7 or Robin in FEA

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That actually sounds fun, I did Classic with Black Mage yesterday and it was pretty easy

Also, can I talk about how I freaking love BM? He's such a perfect representation of the classic series and I wish he was in the official games. From the "Miss" spotdodge to the Death Scyther DAir or the Poison DThrow.

Neither Celica or Alm are mandatory, just one of them.
It's no different to Lyn and Hector/Eliwood in FE7 or Robin in FEA

But you see
She can still die, Saber gets a unique quote when she's no longer mandatory.
Yet that doesn't apply go the dungeons anymore
Either way I'm pissed

Xane. . .now that makes me wonder. . .

Would a character that fights by turning themselves into a clone of someone else on the field be more or less work to make?

Double from Skullgirls?

 

[Erureido]

Can't say I'm surprised by the FE: Warriors news that Shadow Dragon, Fates, and Awakening characters will be the main focus for the time being. Not surprised that Marth got included either, so this further solidifies we'll be seeing Corrin, Ryoma, and Xander in the game as well.

The two protagonists look interesting (the prince is named Shion, while the princess is named Lana; both are also twins), though Shion's hairstyle throws me off for someone.

 

[ChikoLad]

Play post game of Echoes
Bring Celica along because she's a useful unit
Have a strategy when anyone gets fatigued
Get on the seventh floor of the final dungeon
Celica gets crit
Celica wasn't a mandatory unit anymore but I still get a game over
Mfw I just wasted about 2 hours
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IIRC the one that's mandatory is the one you select as the party leader (they take the number one slot and their name is highlighted green in the Order menu).

To change the leader, press "Switch" in the World Map menu. If Celica is the sprite shown while exploring the World Map, getting her killed will cause a Game Over. If Alm is the sprite on the World Map, then Celica is allowed to die like any other unit and you can continue without her.

 

[Deleted member]

This is why I fed Celica tons of +Def boosts (I got her to like 25 Def by the end), and even then I barely ever had her fight at close range. Also her bond support with Alm gives her +20 crit and +10 crit dodge (so maybe one or two enemies in the entire dungeon have anything other than 0 crit against her), so I kept them close together as well.

Safest strategy is probably to make a few trips, getting all the treasure the first few times and exiting to save and heal fatigue, and then making one last trip in where you just avoid all the battles and run straight to the final boss. Something similar to what you'd do in a certain other game involving exploring a huge, deadly labyrinth, but since you aren't able to survive that either...

And FE gets it easy, you can warp out of a dungeon anytime for free.
No situations where you'll be surrounded by two deers waiting to eat you alive because you have no Warp Wires

But you see
She can still die, Saber gets a unique quote when she's no longer mandatory.
Yet that doesn't apply go the dungeons anymore
Either way I'm pissed

Double from Skullgirls?

That quote is unused, Celica and Alm will always get a gameover, no matter who's leading the party

 

[Erureido]

Looks like another FE: Warriors original character has been revealed. Say hello to Darios.

This seems to be ダリオス Darios, the new original sub-character in Fire Emblem Warriors #FEWarriors #KTFamily pic.twitter.com/9IBaxQYvaI

— 黒凧 BlackKite (@bk2128) May 30, 2017

 

[Opossum]

Looks like another FE: Warriors original character has been revealed. Say hello to Darios.

This seems to be ダリオス Darios, the new original sub-character in Fire Emblem Warriors #FEWarriors #KTFamily pic.twitter.com/9IBaxQYvaI

— 黒凧 BlackKite (@bk2128) May 30, 2017

Is that Phoenix Wright?

 

[Deleted member]

Looks like another FE: Warriors original character has been revealed. Say hello to Darios.

This seems to be ダリオス Darios, the new original sub-character in Fire Emblem Warriors #FEWarriors #KTFamily pic.twitter.com/9IBaxQYvaI

— 黒凧 BlackKite (@bk2128) May 30, 2017

What's that thing behind him?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

IIRC the one that's mandatory is the one you select as the party leader (they take the number one slot and their name is highlighted green in the Order menu).

To change the leader, press "Switch" in the World Map menu. If Celica is the sprite shown while exploring the World Map, getting her killed will cause a Game Over. If Alm is the sprite on the World Map, then Celica is allowed to die like any other unit and you can continue without her.

My experience says otherwise as Alm was the guy on the worldmap

What's that thing behind him?

I'll break someone's kneecaps if it turns out to be a sword

 

[Opossum]

My experience says otherwise as Alm was the guy on the worldmap

I'll break someone's kneecaps if it turns out to be a sword

Look at the hilt. It's definitely a sword.

 

[Deleted member]

I'll break someone's kneecaps if it turns out to be a sword

: ^)

It is a sword.

 

[Chrono.]

I can see why they went the Awakening/Fates/SD route. If you use a pool from all 15 games that means, if you want a realistically sized roster you'd be pulling 2-3 characters from each game and one of them would probably have to be the main lord. That said I do think we'll see characters from other games, they just won't be a focus.

The sword excuse is dumb though.

For what it's worth I can see a "Fan Favorite" DLC Pack including Ike, Roy, Lyn, and Hector, considering those were the highest ranking characters in the Heroes poll that more than likely won't be in the base game. That and an Alm and Celica pack, and maybe a FE16 one when that game comes out. And maybe an Eirika/Ephraim Sacred Stones one.


RIP Jugdral though.

Jugdral seems to be obscure even for Japan.

I think they got the lowest amount of units in Heroes too.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Look at the hilt. It's definitely a sword.

: ^)

It is a sword.

@Shishœ get over here I need to vent with this croquet mallet


OH, AND LOOKY HERE
LEIF CAN USE ALL OF THE WEAPON TRIANGLE IN FE4 WITH THAT CLASS BEING DUMMIED OUT IN THRACIA MEANING YOU CAN GIVE HIM THE ENTIRE BLOODY TRIANGLE AT ONCE IF YOU WANTED TO
8 OUT OF 9 CHARACTERS CONFIRMED TO USE SWORDS
'MUH SUOORDS' TK

 

[Depressed Gengar]

while the princess is named Lana

First Zelda's Lana, then Pokémon's Lana... and now this. We now have a trinity of Lanas.

 

[Chrono.]

@Shishœ get over here I need to vent with this croquet mallet


OH, AND LOOKY HERE
LEIF CAN USE ALL OF THE WEAPON TRIANGLE IN FE4 WITH THAT CLASS BEING DUMMIED OUT IN THRACIA MEANING YOU CAN GIVE HIM THE ENTIRE BLOODY TRIANGLE AT ONCE IF YOU WANTED TO
8 OUT OF 9 CHARACTERS CONFIRMED TO USE SWORDS
'MUH SUOORDS' TK

To be fair.... Who really cares about Leif?

 

[Opossum]

I can see why they went the Awakening/Fates/SD route. If you use a pool from all 15 games that means, if you want a realistically sized roster you'd be pulling 2-3 characters from each game and one of them would probably have to be the main lord. That said I do think we'll see characters from other games, they just won't be a focus.

The sword excuse is dumb though.

Jugdral seems to be obscure even for Japan.

I think they got the lowest amount of units in Heroes too.

The Jugdral games have three or four characters, if I remember correctly.

Magvel only has two, with Eirika and Ephraim.

 

[Yellowlord]

Oh hey guys, how is everyone doing tod-

>sees Fire Emblem Echoes talk and news for Fire Emblem Warriors

Welp; guess I haven't missed much then, huh? I can't say for sure if that's a good or bad thing.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I think "too much swords" is another way of saying "lol so you're a real fan eeh? prepared to pay for our 20$ DLC if you really want that hector dude"

Reel in new FE fans with Fates and Awakening, knowing that series veterans will pay for the game and DLC for their favorite characters

 

[Coricus]

To be honest, the sword excuse might have had some weight if they actually stuck with it. I've admittedly mulled over the issue before.

When all three OCs we're aware of use swords, on the other hand, it just comes off as hypocritical. Eight characters and the only sign of a non-sword is the girl OC also using a spear and one of the unrevealed characters having a supplemental ability.

If you want to say you're addressing the sword problem, start by revealing someone that doesn't primarily use a sword.

At least the cast is apparently larger than Hyrule Warriors. If it were restricted to that level we'd really be in sword deep.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

To be fair.... Who really cares about Leif?

True, but hey, could have been something unique instead of 'muh sword'! In fact, out of all the 9 confirmed characters, only 1 does NOT use a sword and that's because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY USE. Tecmo Koei's really pissed me off as that's such a weak excuse. We're also CERTAINLY getting Nabarl or Lon'qu as an obligatory Myrmidon despite Lyn being able to do that and being more popular than both of those characters combined