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Coricus

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You don't understand, even outside of memes Captain Falcon is simply a smash icon, it's as simple as that. What are you going to say next, remove Master Hand because he's not making a profit.

Man, that's one of the problems with gaming nowadays is that people forget that games can and should take creative and expressive libreties, not everything has to be marketable.(For instance, why the hell would we even have retro characters then? They're from games that haven't been relevant in market for years and years...)

****, I miss politics...
We likely wouldn't have retro characters in a reboot, those are some of the characters most accused of being wastes of space.

It's not that I love the idea of ditching Master Hand so much as I'm looking at things from a perspective beyond "Look at how special he is TO SMASH. There's talk of a reboot "shaking up the status quo." Well, there's your status quo.

Really, my whole point is that there's some very obvious ways that rebooting could end up being a trainwreck, precisely due to how cold that marketability factor is. Alternatively, they let someone from the fandom decide the reboot roster and it ends up being an even more erratic and flameworthy trainwreck.

And I've had that politics reaction to other conversations here this week, heh. Then I actually read more politics and changed my mind.
 
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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
-Snake
-Waluigi
-Judd
-Wesker
-The Black Knight

There you go, except Snake, none of them make sense (Atleast I tried so) but who care?
 

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I would be pretty upset if the roster got purged...

Out of all the characters I currently play only Link and Samus are safe bets if that's the case...

I guess Ike as well, but that really depends on how much of a purge it will be...

I'm fine with removing clone characters and/or giving them unique movesets...but not with outright removing a large number of characters altogether...
 

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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
1) Villager
2) Toadette, fight me
3) Decidieye
4) Professor Layton
5) Niles
 
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- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?
  • Ice Climbers: They're the sole representatives of their franchise, so they should be prioritised.
  • WAAAluigi :p
  • Inklings from Splatoon
  • Bomberman
  • Lyn
 

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It's super hype when you get the play of the game on Overwatch. Especially when it's woth someone you don't use often like Reaper.
Nothing says best way of getting Play of the Game than making sure you don't die in Mystery Heroes, you get your Ult, you wait and prepare for the opportunity, than you manage to not die and use your Ult at just the right moment and slaughter everybody and win the game for your team. That was me with a Reaper once at Volskaya. I managed to get my Ult, sneak behind and above the enemy team at the 2nd command point, than jumped and rained hell from above, taking out 4 of them and a turret, than proceeding to kill the last 2 wounded ones quickly, getting me a team kill. :shades:
If people want a smaller Nintendo roster, just hope Nintendo vs Capcom becomes a thing. :p
I still want that to become a thing someday. I also want Sega VS Capcom and Konami vs Capcom(although it'll help if Konami reforms by then) to happen too.
To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?
-Snake/Ice Climbers if 3rd parties aren't counted.
-King K. Rool
-Inklings
-Professor Layton
-Lyndis
 
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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
  • Snake
  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Inkling
  • Maxwell
  • Yukimura
As someone who liked Federation Force...

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?!?
Hey, I was just trying to be more recent.
 
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We likely wouldn't have retro characters in a reboot, those are some of the characters most accused of being wastes of space.
Stopped reading there, this is the realistic reboot you're talking about? You're just talking about other people's ideals for a smash reboot, not a realistic one. The roster has never been about just marketability, I think you're just too wrapped up in Nintendo's finnicial situation as usual.
 

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If they ever rebooted Smash, the original 12 is safe except for maybe :4jigglypuff: which they would replace with :4charizard: but that's not happening because the oringal 12 have way too much tied to Smash especially :4falcon: who is by far the face of Smash Bros


If anything I fear a reboot of what will happen to the post-64 roster because Melee is gonna lose out on everyone sans :4bowser::4peach::4zelda::4ganondorf::4marth: and maybe :4mewtwo: if lucky.

Brawl would be alright due to characters like:4lucas::4rob: & :4zss: being left in the dust but others will be fine

Now Smash 4 would be the worst of the group because the only ones I see surviving are :4villager::4lucina::rosalina::4bowserjr:&:4shulk:


No retros, no fan favorites but only going by popularity.

The difference is that we would have extreme room for a lot of Mario, Pokemon and Splatoon characters. Fire Emblem will have Lyn and Chrom in place of Robin and Corrin and good luck seeing anything niche.


And as for DLC, this is your DLC gets:
:4falco::4littlemac::4feroy::4palutena::4lucas:& some newcomers


Plus the biggest thing I see going is possible third parties.


Reboot will suck but I just don't want Smash 5 to have a 70+ character roster. That would seem bloated just to appease everyone.

That said, Opossum Opossum has the right idea
 

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I made an Earwig monster in Spore that could be an idea for a pokemon

Dark/ Bug, Fighting/ Bug, or Dark/ Fighting without the whole bug thing
 

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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p

Let's have some fun then.

-SNAKE
-Cranky Kong
-Wonder Red (Nintendo owns the IP iirc)
-Rayman
-Hector

On the subject of reboots, it's bit of a slippery slope. A reboot comes with the promise of fresh ideas like new mechanics and in some ways a more manageable roster. On the other hand, there would need to be a balancing act between old and new. SFIII may be celebrated today, but was trashed at the time for probably going to far in its "rebootness" (does not help that New Generation and 2nd Impact are kinda bad games at a competitive level but that's another story).

A Smash 4 port with continued content support probably would work for now until the team best figures out a way to reboot. After all, Smash stills sells on being bigger than it's previous installment. Reboots are not a common occurrence when it comes to Smash, unlike more traditional fighting games like SF or GG.
 
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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
Wolf
K. Rool
Ribbon Girl
Asuka (Senran Kagura)
Lyn

Happy?
 

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Fire Emblem Heroes finally worked for me!

Let's see what the hubbub is about.
 

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I made an Earwig monster in Spore that could be an idea for a pokemon

Dark/ Bug, Fighting/ Bug, or Dark/ Fighting without the whole bug thing
That looks like a cross between Drapion and Scolipede. Especially the evolution.
 
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It's frustrating to focus down a Mercy, and they still come back in time to rez their team last minute.
 

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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?



Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
Veteran: Wolf
1st party newcomer: Mecha Fiora (if XBC doesn't count as 1st party, then K. Rool it is)
1st party newcomer from new series: Inkling
3rd party newcomer: Shantae
Fire Emblem: Our new goddess Lyn
 
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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
- Snake
- Well because it's a port meaning I can't "Gargos" Ridley so... Paper Mario I guess?
- Wonder Red (Nintendo own W101)
- Dante (PXZ boys)
- Black Knight

****, I miss politics...
Be careful what you wish for.

 

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Stopped reading there, this is the realistic reboot you're talking about? You're just talking about other people's ideals for a smash reboot, not a realistic one. The roster has never been about just marketability, I think you're just too wrapped up in Nintendo's finnicial situation as usual.
Well, it's a bit difficult to demonstrate other scenarios where a reboot would go badly since without showing the possibility for a financial backfire it's much more abstract.

If you drop half the roster out from under a game, it's not going to end well no matter who you pick to send off the island, it's just easier to demonstrate the unpredictability of what would happen at that scale by picking a sacred cow that doesn't have much financial motivation as an example.

The third parties alone are in danger even without a reboot due to the unpredictability of licensing arrangements and people would absolutely melt if they went. Snake wasn't even asked for and some people are still mourning him, it's just that his case is dulled by Konami turning into a terrible company around the same time. Imagine someone like Sonic or Mega Man that was actually requested in massive waves going. That's not going to go unnoticed.
 

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Nothing says best way of getting Play of the Game than making sure you don't die in Mystery Heroes, you get your Ult, you wait and prepare for the opportunity, than you manage to not die and use your Ult at just the right moment and slaughter everybody and win the game for your team. That was me with a Reaper once at Volskaya. I managed to get my Ult, sneak behind and above the enemy team at the 2nd command point, than jumped and rained hell from above, taking out 4 of them and a turret, than proceeding to kill the last 2 wounded ones quickly, getting me a team kill. :shades:

I still want that to become a thing someday. I also want Sega VS Capcom and Konami vs Capcom(although it'll help if Konami reforms by then) to happen too.

-Snake/Ice Climbers if 3rd parties aren't counted.
-King K. Rool
-Inklings
-Professor Layton
-Lyndis
Reaper is the only character I've done a team wipe with. I might just have to make him a main now.
 

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Well, it's a bit difficult to demonstrate other scenarios where a reboot would go badly since without showing the possibility for a financial backfire it's much more abstract.

If you drop half the roster out from under a game, it's not going to end well no matter who you pick to send off the island, it's just easier to demonstrate the unpredictability of what would happen at that scale by picking a sacred cow that doesn't have much financial motivation as an example.

The third parties alone are in danger even without a reboot due to the unpredictability of licensing arrangements and people would absolutely melt if they went. Snake wasn't even asked for and some people are still mourning him, it's just that his case is dulled by Konami turning into a terrible company around the same time. Imagine someone like Sonic or Mega Man that was actually requested in massive waves going. That's not going to go unnoticed.
Games have gone through reboots all the time, and while there's been some backlash from the hardcore fans, it's never been enough for anything to badly, unless the game itself was badly developed.

I think you're overestimating how huge any backlash would be.
 
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- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.
- Snake (It was going to be either him or Wolf.)
- Cranky Kong King K. Rool
- Zael
- Simon Belmont (It was going to be either him or Crash.)
- Lyn

I'll attempt Manly's challenge later.
 

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Going to the main game page will not let me install it. Don't know if anyone else had this problem but try it out if you can't get it yet.
 
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I went through an entire school day and heries still hasnt ****ing released.

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- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.
Wolf
Ridley
Inkling
Sora
Lyn


And then i wake up
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Here's a simple challenge for everyone ITT:

Make an appealing 35 character Smash 5 roster, under the assumption that every returning character is getting a revamped moveset. Either upgraded, or totally redone. Be sure to include new faces. No 3rd parties allowed.
Vets:
:4bowser::4falcon::4charizard::4dedede::4diddy::4dk::4fox::4myfriends::4jigglypuff::4kirby::4littlemac::4link::4lucario::4luigi::4mario::4marth::4metaknight::4mewtwo::4ness::4olimar::4peach::4pikachu::4pit::rosalina::4samus::4shulk::4villager::4wario2::4yoshi::4zelda:

Revamped Vets::4falco::4ganondorf::4lucina:

Newcomers: Inklings and Waluigi


To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
:popo:
Inceniroar
Inklings
Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden (with Kasumi as a AT)
Lyn


That was easy.
 

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Here's a simple challenge for everyone ITT:

Make an appealing 35 character Smash 5 roster, under the assumption that every returning character is getting a revamped moveset. Either upgraded, or totally redone. Be sure to include new faces. No 3rd parties allowed.
*Cracks knuckles* Show time.

First up are the veterans.

Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Rosalina, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Wario

Mario utilizes his hammer for some of his smashes now and has a special function wherein his footstool jump actually causes damage. Luigi is reworked so that the Poltergust features heavily in his moveset. Peach uses her telekinesis for her throws and Parry for her Up Special. Her new neutral special sends out a Toad that rushes at the foe, and if hit, does the spore attack, basically making her neutral be ranged instead. Also makes her seem less cowardly and more commanding. Bowser stays largely similar to his Smash 4 incarnation but has a fireball instead of Fire Breath. Rosalina is the same because puppeteers are great. Yoshi rebrands as a Mario character but is otherwise largely the same. Donkey Kong keeps the DK branding but is otherwise the same, minus his Final Smash, which changes to Rambi. Wario takes more inspiration from WarioLand.

Link, Zelda, Ganondorf
Link gets more mobility in general. Zelda goes full-on light magic, while Ganondorf goes for brutal dark magic. They get Ocarina of Time and Breath of the Wild costume options. Zelda maybe gets a new Down Special using the Shiekah Slate as a command grab.

Pikachu, Charizard, Mewtwo, Lucario, Greninja

Mascot, Fire Starter, Legendary, Secondary Mascot, Water Starter. Pikachu stays largely the same while swapping Skull Bash for Iron Tail and gets the Ash-Pikachu Z-Move as a new Final Smash. Lucario ditches Double Team for Bone Rush. Greninja and Mewtwo stay largely the same.

Kirby, King Dedede, Meta Knight
These guys stay largely the same, beyond general buffs. Dedede gets Masked Dedede as a Final Smash though.

Ike, Corrin
These two work well already. No changes.

Samus, Pit, Fox, Little Mac, Olimar, Villager, Shulk, R.O.B., Ness
Samus gets reworked entirely to be much more projectile-heavy in her normals. Has a morph ball mode. Little Mac GETS HIS PRE-PATCH JOLT HAYMAKER AGAIN WHAT THE HELL SAKURAI, as well as having his KO meter become a Star Punch meter so he's closer to modern day, and everyone else gets general buffs.


Newcomers.

Inkling
Uses ink for mobility and stage control purposes.

Chrom
No longer as redundant, Chrom uses his fighting style from Awakening and brings a weapon switch mechanic, allowing him to alternate between the Exalted Falchion and a Spear. Showcases the weapon triangle. Lucina is an alternate character.

Decidueye
The archer and trapper character I've always wanted and brings Alola into the fold.

Starfy
Small and nigh lagless character who while weak can chain together huge combos. Has great air mobility but is clumsy on land. Transformation specials allow for mix ups.

Henry Fleming
A resource management character who uses his Eagle Rifle at full charge at the expense of movement and spamability, or can dish out smaller shots for freer movement and more frequent shots.

This would leave the following as cut
:4bowserjr::4falcon::4darkpit::4diddy::4drmario::4duckhunt::4falco::4jigglypuff::4lucas:(:4lucina:):4marth::4gaw::4mii::4palutena::4robinm::4feroy::4sheik::4tlink::4wiifit::4zss:
And the third parties.

It's more than I'd prefer to be cut, but I wanted at least five newcomers, and given the limited number, I didn't have much of a choice.

So yeah. It was hard. And also I let my own biases run free so don't expect this to be a "realistic" 35 character roster. :p
 

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For anyone that doesn't have Heroes on Google Play yet. There's a glitch on the store. To download it I had to scroll through the highlight section over to where it says to preregister for Super Mario Run and FEH, then scroll down to FEH, and click on the 3 little dots to then install it.

Going to the main game page will not let me install it. Don't know if anyone else had this problem but try it out if you can't get it yet.
Acually, its up now
 

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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
Snake. Tyranitar. Inkling. Bomberman. Hector.
 

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Should I summon more heroes immediately?

I just got Anna and Virion.
 

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Well, it's a bit difficult to demonstrate other scenarios where a reboot would go badly since without showing the possibility for a financial backfire it's much more abstract.

If you drop half the roster out from under a game, it's not going to end well no matter who you pick to send off the island, it's just easier to demonstrate the unpredictability of what would happen at that scale by picking a sacred cow that doesn't have much financial motivation as an example.

The third parties alone are in danger even without a reboot due to the unpredictability of licensing arrangements and people would absolutely melt if they went. Snake wasn't even asked for and some people are still mourning him, it's just that his case is dulled by Konami turning into a terrible company around the same time. Imagine someone like Sonic or Mega Man that was actually requested in massive waves going. That's not going to go unnoticed.
Your argument can basically shorten has simple as that: you can't please everybody, there is always some peoples that are going to recieve the short end of the stick.

But here is the deal, it's life. You can't make everybody happy. You want to but you can't. If Sakurai wanted, he would put all the character peoples request so that everybody is happy. But he is a human, he has limit, he need to take decision, hard one as that.

Smash is the kind of game where ther will always have a fanbase that, despise their best effort, they won't recieve what they want because games have to be done quickly. Character must be decided very early during the developpement of the games. Popular character can be popular for years, but others not. And those character must sell the game, it's the whole point of Smash. Play as your favourite Nintendo (and guest) character!

Making a character is hard too, you have to animate them, voice them, make them interesting, recognizable, fun, the list can go on. If you gonna scrap a character, you better do it early or all those effort you put into it will be gone.

This is why there is so many clone and why peoples are stupid when they complain about them. They don't take alot of time, they are easy to create, Sakurai and various dev know that and get on with it because they need to make more character to appeal more peoples, see the plan here?

This is why peoples should always expect to be dissapointed. I was dissapoint that Snake and Wolf didn't make it back. But I move on, and atleast, it give me a reason to play Brawl again! (Or Project M too...>_>)

To end this here, I affirm that a reboot will be useless because of one reason: why?

A reboot is generally use when a franchise isn't succeful enough after alot of games/movies/episode didn't sell well enough or was just bad in general. So why reboot Smash when the series have always been succeful? Just for the sake of it? Because it will be cool?

Meh, I much prefer seeing a reboot of Duck Hunt in that case. With real gun and all.
 
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Also Shishi your waifu is ****, Nino can't read
Eww, what the hell? Who would have Nino as a waifu? She's 14.
I just want to protect her from all the evil in the world not waifu her.

And she can't read because Sonia is an abusive fake mother.
To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
In respective order:
Snake
Mimikyu
Wonder-Red
Protector(Etrian Odyssey) **** it these are my rules
Hector
 

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Also got Matthew and Raigh for free I guess.

Now what do I do with all these options.

There's tons.
 

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To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd. :p
Figured I'd do my own challenge. :p

- Ice Climbers
- Decidueye
- Inkling
- This is tough...I'd narrow it down to Crash Bandicoot, Lara Croft, and Shovel Knight. I'd probably go with Lara.
- Chrom :p
 
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Here's a simple challenge for everyone ITT:

Make an appealing 35 character Smash 5 roster, under the assumption that every returning character is getting a revamped moveset. Either upgraded, or totally redone. Be sure to include new faces. No 3rd parties allowed.
  1. :4mario:
  2. :4luigi:
  3. :4peach:
  4. :4bowser:
  5. :4bowserjr:
  6. :4dk:
  7. :4diddy:
  8. K. Rool
  9. :4link:
  10. :4zelda:
  11. :4ganondorf:
  12. Impa
  13. :4samus:
  14. Ridley
  15. :4yoshi:
  16. :4kirby:
  17. :4metaknight:
  18. :4dedede:
  19. Bandana Dee
  20. :4fox:
  21. :4pikachu:
  22. :4mewtwo:
  23. :4charizard:
  24. :4lucario:
  25. :4marth:
  26. :4myfriends:
  27. :4falcon:
  28. :4ness:
  29. :4wario2:
  30. :4olimar:
  31. :4villager:
  32. :4littlemac:
  33. :4gaw:
  34. :4rob:
  35. Inkling
 
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