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[Wario Bros.]

I see the official Sonic the Hedgehog social media team aren't that good at Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean (I'm watching their live stream).

I too could be much better at Puyo Puyo.

 

[FalKoopa]

So my first three heroes are Lon'qu, Palla and Hinata.

Not bad characters, but I'm hardly familiar with any of them. Rip.

 

[Deleted member]

I DIDN'T GET HECTOR OR NINO BUT I GOT ****ING A 4 STAR RAVEN AND HE LOOKS AMAZING HOLY ****
Also got Bartre(meh), some Healer I don't know who he is, Oboro(yay) and... Sully(does this game takes refunds?)

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd.

1.) Ice Climbers
2.) King K.Rool
3.) Inkling
4.) Rayman
5.) I don't know, Lyn I guess?

I also downloaded Fire Emblem Heroes.

I have no idea what I'm doing.

 

[Ivander]

So my first heroes are Fir, Sophia, Lissa and Jagen. Nice for Lissa, Fir and Sophia I don't know that much because FE6 and this game is so nice for starting me with the Jagen.

 

[Yellowlord]

1.) Ice Climbers
2.) King K.Rool
3.) Inkling
4.) Rayman
5.) I don't know, Lyn I guess?

Our lists are exactly the same. How did we manage to pull that off?

Unless you saw my list beforehand, but I'm going to assume you didn't.

 

[Pazzo.]

FalKoopa

Yes, Virion does have the accent in the English version.

It's intended to be a French accent. Cravat, tea, metrosexual, etc.

 

[Schnee117]

Made it to the last page of that NeoGAF thread that it's progressed to so far and hahahahahah



I don't think I've ever read anything that easy to agree with from NeoGAF before.

If anyone's curious what I just read through:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1340331

So yeah. I'm glad the fans don't decide the roster too. Give it a bit. . .

If mental gymnastics were an Olympic sport GAF would win Gold all the time.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Our lists are exactly the same. How did we manage to pull that off?

Unless you saw my list beforehand, but I'm going to assume you didn't.

Uhhhh.......
A wizard did it.

 

[Deleted member]

I made one:

See, not that hard. Keeping in mind that EVERYONE has a revamped moveset. Some with total redos, this would be a pretty sweet restart. Especially since the following game would ADD more characters.

 

[Wolfie557]

Well, I aint waiting for more stamina so I'll have to win 2 more battles tomorrow so I can have 20 orbs to summon on the bus.

 

[Yellowlord]

Uhhhh.......
A wizard did it.

Sega, plz. How could a wizard do something like that?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

FalKoopa

Yes, Virion does have the accent in the English version.

It's intended to be a French accent. Cravat, tea, metrosexual, etc.

That is a pretty hot accent If I do say so myself

 

[Wolfie557]

I have one complaint: google play achievements don't seem to be working!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I really do hope the Diddy + Dixie idea dies in a fire though.

Just give us Diddy and Dixie as separate characters.

 

[Kurri ★]

I made one:
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See, not that hard. Keeping in mind that EVERYONE has a revamped moveset. Some with total redos, this would be a pretty sweet restart. Especially since the following game would ADD more characters.

My only issue is the lack of third party characters. But I'm assuming your hypothetical smash would gradually add more characters in later updates.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Trying to get Camilla round 2

Got Fredrick

Edit: And some idiot named "Hawkeye"

 

[Deleted member]

I really do hope the Diddy + Dixie idea dies in a fire though.

Just give us Diddy and Dixie as separate characters.

Why? Duo characters are fun.

My only issue is the lack of third party characters. But I'm assuming your hypothetical smash would gradually add more characters in later updates.

DLC is the idea. 3rd party is best suited to DLC imo. Plus, for the first game in a "reboot" it's best to keep it Nintendo only in the original run.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Hawkeye may not be Camilla, but his stats are damn high. At level 1 he's got more HP and attack than any of the default team at level 5

 

[A Distant Demon]

Download after the tutorial still at 7% zzz



Just a reminder to all you guys


They are TRYING to make you spend money. lot's of it.

don't
patience is key

You wont get that unit you want immediately, or at all
You will have to wait for that stamina to recharge to go to the next map

but TRY to not spend money, especially on pulls. You'll probably just waste it.

and be knowledgeable if you can!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Why? Duo characters are fun.

They are.

But not when we already have a functioning Diddy Kong. And it's not like Diddy's moveset doesn't work. He's been good in Brawl, PM and Smash 4.

Diddy doesn't need a revamp and Dixie can provide so much more on her own.

It just cheapens those two to me. They can stand on their own just fine.

 

[Erureido]

To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?


Edit: Also Manly's challenge since I've been Ninja'd.

My character picks:

1. Wolf
2. Gallade
3. Spring Man (technically, I would pick Inkling, but I want to give Arms some representation love for this situation)
4. Professor Layton
5. Azura

 

[Deleted member]

They are.

But not when we already have a functioning Diddy Kong. And it's not like Diddy's moveset doesn't work. He's been good in Brawl, PM and Smash 4.

Diddy doesn't need a revamp and Dixie can provide so much more on her own.

It just cheapens those two to me. They can stand on their own just fine.

It's a reboot, everyone is getting a reimagined moveset. Diddy+Dixie was gonna be a thing in Brawl, outside of Rosa and Luma, there are no other duo characters. It's a core mechanic of the DKC franchise, and those two are super iconic together. Why not?

Diddy would likely be getting a new moveset like everone else is anyway.

When I say some get a slight upgrade, I mean characters like Falcon and Fox and ZSS don't change very much, but everyone who can, pretty much gets totally redone. That's the point of a reboot.

 

[Pazzo.]

Anyone watching Groundhog Day?

Probably one of my top 20s.

 

[Opossum]

On the bright side, hey, four star Marth on my first pull.
On the other hand...Chrom...where are you, Chrom?


Not my first gacha rodeo obviously, but I'm pleased. Also got four star Est and Cecilia.


I'm most happy about Virion being a mandatory pull though. He's my second favorite Fire Emblem character so that's great for me.

 

[Kurri ★]

I just don't understand why people are so against the idea of chopping the roster, at least for the initial release. If it leads to improved gameplay, what's the issue?

More content could be added over time in the form of stages, characters, even extra game modes. This model gives the devs more time to produce quality content, rather than having to be done by the time the game releases.

"But what about this or that fanbase?"
Yeah, they'll have to wait, but if the trade off is that they have more interesting gameplay when they do come, I don't see how what the problem is.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

SUCK IT MARTH, LEVEL 1 HAWKEYE KILLED YOU EVEN WITH TYPE ADVANTAGE

 

[Deleted member]

It seems they made all past Thief Shuriken/Dagger users.
Which would be fine if the game told me they're 2 range only for whatever reason
Same with Magic users, why would they do that?

 

[Deleted member]

I just don't understand why people are so against the idea of chopping the roster, at least for the initial release. If it leads to improved gameplay, what's the issue?

More content could be added over time in the form of stages, characters, even extra game modes. This model gives the devs more time to produce quality content, rather than having to be done by the time the game releases.

"But what about this or that fanbase?"
Yeah, they'll have to wait, but if the trade off is that they have more interesting gameplay when they do come, I don't see how what the problem is.

Thank you for explaining it so well.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

You wont get that unit you want immediately

I must of been lucky, Niles came to me right away

 

[Erureido]

Everyone is enjoying Fire Emblem Heroes, it seems.

Meanwhile, I'm finally downloading it, but man, it takes a while to do so.

And now I wonder what my first character pulls will be.

 

[Opossum]

I made one:
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See, not that hard. Keeping in mind that EVERYONE has a revamped moveset. Some with total redos, this would be a pretty sweet restart. Especially since the following game would ADD more characters.

Newcomer choices aside, the veteran choices are pretty similar to mine, so that's neat.

The biggest gripe I have is that the initial Pokémon roster only has Kanto Pokémon. Honestly if Pokémon were just given one more initially and either Lucario or Greninja were brought back, I'd like it a lot more. Naturally updates would help with this, but it was the main thing that stood out to me.

Over all pretty solid.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

It's a reboot, everyone is getting a reimagined moveset. Diddy+Dixie was gonna be a thing in Brawl, outside of Rosa and Luma, there are no other duo characters. It's a core mechanic of the DKC franchise, and those two are super iconic together. Why not?

Diddy would likely be getting a new moveset like everone else is anyway.

When I say some get a slight upgrade, I mean characters like Falcon and Fox and ZSS don't change very much, but everyone who can, pretty much gets totally redone. That's the point of a reboot.

It just kind of cheapens the character. Even as a reboot, it just feels like cutting the existing Diddy in half instead of a redesign.

Just doesn't feel like Diddy anymore.

I just don't understand why people are so against the idea of chopping the roster, at least for the initial release. If it leads to improved gameplay, what's the issue?

More content could be added over time in the form of stages, characters, even extra game modes. This model gives the devs more time to produce quality content, rather than having to be done by the time the game releases.

"But what about this or that fanbase?"
Yeah, they'll have to wait, but if the trade off is that they have more interesting gameplay when they do come, I don't see how what the problem is.

If done well it could be great, but I really doubt it'd be done well.

Especially for something as character heavy as Smash.

Unless everything is free (which it won't be) or they can pump out characters fast (which they won't) people will feel ripped off big time.

 

[A Distant Demon]

>download sits at 20% for ages
>uninstalls to see if that is the issue
>stays at 7% for even longer
>reset again and it's already at 36

****

 

[Coricus]

I just don't understand why people are so against the idea of chopping the roster, at least for the initial release. If it leads to improved gameplay, what's the issue?

More content could be added over time in the form of stages, characters, even extra game modes. This model gives the devs more time to produce quality content, rather than having to be done by the time the game releases.

"But what about this or that fanbase?"
Yeah, they'll have to wait, but if the trade off is that they have more interesting gameplay when they do come, I don't see how what the problem is.

Because all of my favorite characters are common cut requests, none of the characters people suggest as tradeoffs are characters I actually like, and while good gameplay is nice I'm not nearly as invested in it as a lot of other players are.

It would essentially remove most of the reason for me to play Smash Bros because I basically started looking into the series because of a couple of extremely high risk characters from Brawl that miraculously made it back this time. And by the time they might be patched in, I might not feel in the mood to purchase it anymore.

 

[Deleted member]

It just kind of cheapens the character. Even as a reboot, it just feels like cutting the existing Diddy in half instead of a redesign.

Just doesn't feel like Diddy anymore.

How does it cheapen the character? Diddy has been present in a variety of forms, and his Smash iterations already exist. What's wrong with exploring new concepts with the character? Plus, if the duo mechanic is implemented a la DKC2, then there's plenty of room for Diddy's own uniqueness to shine.

Because all of my favorite characters are common cut requests, none of the characters people suggest as tradeoffs are characters I actually like, and while good gameplay is nice I'm not nearly as invested in it as a lot of other players are.

It would essentially remove most of the reason for me to play Smash Bros because I basically started looking into the series because of a couple of extremely high risk characters from Brawl that miraculously made it back this time. And by the time they might be patched in, I might not feel in the mood to purchase it anymore.

If done well it could be great, but I really doubt it'd be done well.

Especially for something as character heavy as Smash.

Unless everything is free (which it won't be) or they can pump out characters fast (which they won't) people will feel ripped off big time.

I don't understand these concerns.
Smash started with a roster of 12 characters, and still felt very solid. Melee had 27, and Brawl had 35. I don't see how going back to 35, with every character feeling new and fresh is gonna make people feel ripped off. Most people who play Smash aren't in it for the roster. In fact, some people are already complaining that the current roster is TOO BIG. I'd even argue that the majority of people who play Smash, play it for a fun game with Nintendo characters. So long as they see the usual iconic faces, they won't be overly disappointed with some cuts, and in fact, they'd be greatly pleased with a reboot, and would greatly welcome that over more characters they don't recognize.

I also think there's one thing people need to understand. Like it or not. The reboot bridge is gonna have to be crossed sooner or later. There's no way you can continue to add stuff to the franchise endlessly.[/QUOTE]

 

[Kurri ★]

It just kind of cheapens the character. Even as a reboot, it just feels like cutting the existing Diddy in half instead of a redesign.

Just doesn't feel like Diddy anymore.


If done well it could be great, but I really doubt it'd be done well.

Especially for something as character heavy as Smash.

Unless everything is free (which it won't be) or they can pump out characters fast (which they won't) people will feel ripped off big time.

They definitely won't be free, and I don't think they'd be pumped out fast, but I don't think people will feel ripped off outside of the most hardcore of fans. They'll feel disappointed that they're favs were cut, but if Nintendo can assure people that content will be produced and released on a regular basis, it'll be fine.

Because all of my favorite characters are common cut requests, none of the characters people suggest as tradeoffs are characters I actually like, and while good gameplay is nice I'm not nearly as invested in it as a lot of other players are.

It would essentially remove most of the reason for me to play Smash Bros because I basically started looking into the series because of a couple of extremely high risk characters from Brawl that miraculously made it back this time. And by the time they might be patched in, I might not feel in the mood to purchase it anymore.

I think you vastly overestimate how much fan demand plays in game development.

Besides, if it's the characters that you're interested in most, you still have Smash 4 to play and when the character you want is released, you'll probably be able to purchase the game at a cheaper price.

 

[Opossum]

Most people who play Smash aren't in it for the roster.

I think this is honestly incorrect, simply from the amount of folks who only bought the game because of one or two specific characters.

I'd argue more people care about the characters themselves than their hit boxes, if that makes sense.

 

[Arcanir]

Here's a simple challenge for everyone ITT:

Make an appealing 35 character Smash 5 roster, under the assumption that every returning character is getting a revamped moveset. Either upgraded, or totally redone. Be sure to include new faces. No 3rd parties allowed.

1) Mario
2) Peach
3) Bowser
4) Luigi
5) Rosalina
6) Link
7) Zelda
8) Ganondorf
9) Wario
10) Yoshi
11) DK
12) Diddy
13) Pikachu
14) Charizard
15) Mewtwo
16) Lucario
17) Kirby
18) King Dedede
19) Meta Knight
20) Marth
21) Ike
22) Fox
23) Samus
24) Captain Falcon
25) Ness
26) Villager
27) Olimar
28) Pit
29) Shulk
30) Little Mac

Newcomers:
31) Inkling
32) Dixie/King K. Rool
33) Ridley
34) Pokémon Gen 7 Newcomer
35) Arms

Veterans I aimed for 30 returning characters, which allowed for as many returnees as I could stuff in while allowing for at least a decent amount of newcomers to play around with. Still led to some cuts that hurt to do, but I feel this direction allowed for the most flexibility in terms of keeping as many characters as possible without getting into the more difficult cuts. Newcomers I just went with general choices plus my personal bias choice of Ridley.

To lighten the mood, here's a Smash hypothetical.

You were brought aboard by Sakurai to choose new characters for a Smash 4 Switch port. When asked how many, Sakurai smirks and says five. Five! Wow! Before now you thought that impossible...but there's a catch.

You must pick:

- One returning veteran
- One newcomer from an already-present Nintendo series
- One newcomer from a new Nintendo series
- One new third party character (must be an unrepresented franchise and must have appeared on a Nintendo system)
- ...And a Fire Emblem character.

Under these circumstances, which five characters would you pick?

-Wolf
-Ridley
-Henry Fleming
-Monster Hunter
-Lyn

 

[MF Viewtiful]

While I'm not opposed to reboot with a slicker roster and (hopefully) new mechanics, you tend to lose people when characters are lost. Smash is arguably more about it's iconography than it's mechanics, if I'm being blunt. Sure I may be interested in a revamped Ganondorf moveset for example, but you'll lose a few fans if say Sonic is cut.

Quite frankly, most people would be happy with a Smash 4 port that just gets expanded upon. I'm sure most customers just wanna play their Marios and their Links in some colorful free for all rumble. Trying to justify a small roster to these people may be a harder sell. Then again, I'm not sure how well known a Shulk is to these people. Time will tell anyway, especially since we still have no word on a Smash for Switch anyway.