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Speaking of Fire Emblem Heroes, the subreddit for the game recently had a survey. Over 27,000 people participated. One of the questions was "Now that Ike's in, who do you want to see added?"

So here are the results, all characters who got 20 votes or more.




Figures Ike was so popular that a second Ike is more requested than tons of other characters. :p

So what do you think? Celica has since been released, but the rest haven't. Are your top picks on here? Who do you want to see? Personally I'm glad Sumia did as well as she did (second highest voted Awakening character behind God) since it's baffling she got left out.
 

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@Coricus summoned Space Stranger?
Well, then so be it, time to see Johnny-I mean, Woody.:4jigglypuff:
 
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I want the amiibo and the pins. I plan on doing a Celica cosplay once in my life so the pin would be neat. Plus Alm and Marth's pins are pretty damn cool
Did you buy bra pads though? You'll need those :p
Speaking of Fire Emblem Heroes, the subreddit for the game recently had a survey. Over 27,000 people participated. One of the questions was "Now that Ike's in, who do you want to see added?"

So here are the results, all characters who got 20 votes or more.




Figures Ike was so popular that a second Ike is more requested than tons of other characters. :p

So what do you think? Celica has since been released, but the rest haven't. Are your top picks on here? Who do you want to see? Personally I'm glad Sumia did as well as she did (second highest voted Awakening character behind God) since it's baffling she got left out.
Surprised to see Micaiah so high, I thought pretty much everyone hated her
But hey, Lute is up there so that's cool.
Good to see Reddit has good taste, especially considering a certain character

 

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Did you buy bra pads though? You'll need those :p

Surprised to see Micaiah so high, I thought pretty much everyone hated her
But hey, Lute is up there so that's cool.
Good to see Reddit has good taste, especially considering a certain character

AHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
BUY THE TIME I'M READY FOR COSPLAY I'LL HAVE GROWN MY OWN BOOBS! Sure, they take YEARS to fully grow and transwomen general'y have underdeveloped breasts, BUT I'LL HAVE THEM! FLATTY NO MORE!

After seeing Spectacular Spiderman I realized something. As of Homecoming, all of the Sinister Six have been in the movies. I wouldn't mind retreading Spidey villains in MCU if he get them all, Tom Holland's already got a contract for 3 Spidey films and 2 of the group are in Homecoming already
 

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Speaking of Fire Emblem Heroes, the subreddit for the game recently had a survey. Over 27,000 people participated. One of the questions was "Now that Ike's in, who do you want to see added?"

So here are the results, all characters who got 20 votes or more.




Figures Ike was so popular that a second Ike is more requested than tons of other characters. :p

So what do you think? Celica has since been released, but the rest haven't. Are your top picks on here? Who do you want to see? Personally I'm glad Sumia did as well as she did (second highest voted Awakening character behind God) since it's baffling she got left out.
I want Rinkah and Kaze to come as a pair. Maybe alongside Flora and someone else from Fates to make it a rounded out 4 focus banner. Maybe Mozu so Donnel can have a buddy. Kana is another option (maybe make him/her a Green Dragonstone user).

Rinkah and Kaze feel weird to omit from FE Heroes because they appear in the Prologue chapters and are "unkillable" as a result (i.e. they don't ACTUALLY die in Classic Mode, they just become crippled like the royals and Azura). They're characters you will get to know regardless of which path you take.

Also I just really like them so that's another reason of course. Not sure how they'd implement them and people might react negatively because there is a huge amount of Fates characters already.
 

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Why is there an empty space with a bar between Leif and Haar?

all of the Sinister Six have been in the movies.
The Sinister 6 roster changes a lot though.
From the original team we still need Kraven and Mysterio (**** Sony, we could have had Bruce Campbell as Mysterio) to be in the films.

 
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AHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
BUY THE TIME I'M READY FOR COSPLAY I'LL HAVE GROWN MY OWN BOOBS! Sure, they take YEARS to fully grow and transwomen general'y have underdeveloped breasts, BUT I'LL HAVE THEM! FLATTY NO MORE!

After seeing Spectacular Spiderman I realized something. As of Homecoming, all of the Sinister Six have been in the movies. I wouldn't mind retreading Spidey villains in MCU if he get them all, Tom Holland's already got a contract for 3 Spidey films and 2 of the group are in Homecoming already
Hahahahah yeah sure, you wish
I want Rinkah and Kaze to come as a pair. Maybe alongside Flora and someone else from Fates to make it a rounded out 4 focus banner. Maybe Mozu so Donnel can have a buddy. Kana is another option (maybe make him/her a Green Dragonstone user).

Rinkah and Kaze feel weird to omit from FE Heroes because they appear in the Prologue chapters and are "unkillable" as a result (i.e. they don't ACTUALLY die in Classic Mode, they just become crippled like the royals and Azura). They're characters you will get to know regardless of which path you take.

Also I just really like them so that's another reason of course. Not sure how they'd implement them and people might react negatively because there is a huge amount of Fates characters already.
Rinkah, Flora and Sigurd on a banner because we all know why :^)
Why is there an empty space with a bar between Leif and Haar?
Kellam jokes stopped being funny 4 years ago
Says the guy making Sigurd jokes

 
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Hahahahah yeah sure, you wish

Rinkah, Flora and Sigurd on a banner because we all know why :^)

Kellam jokes stopped being funny 4 years ago
Says the guy making Sigurd jokes

DO NOT TALK BACK TO THE GAME MASTER!
Why is there an empty space with a bar between Leif and Haar?



The Sinister 6 roster changes a lot though.
From the original team we still need Kraven and Mysterio (**** Sony, we could have had Bruce Campbell as Mysterio) to be in the films.

Ooh, that's even better~, those two could make for interesting movies, Mysterio ESPECIALLY!
 

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Kellam jokes stopped being funny 4 years ago
Says the guy making Sigurd jokes
But who is this Kellam you speak of?

 

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We now know the third Post Season character in Killer Instinct will be teased "at the end of the month"

The suspense is strong with this one.

EDIT: :4greninja:'d
 
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Speaking of Fire Emblem Heroes, the subreddit for the game recently had a survey. Over 27,000 people participated. One of the questions was "Now that Ike's in, who do you want to see added?"

So here are the results, all characters who got 20 votes or more.




Figures Ike was so popular that a second Ike is more requested than tons of other characters. :p

So what do you think? Celica has since been released, but the rest haven't. Are your top picks on here? Who do you want to see? Personally I'm glad Sumia did as well as she did (second highest voted Awakening character behind God) since it's baffling she got left out.
Seeing Kaze isn't surprising, I was surprised that Heroes left out both Kaze and Silas. Also, Kellam jokes aside, can we just point out that he is 15th place and the 3rd most wanted Awakening character in that poll?
 

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Hahahahah yeah sure, you wish

Rinkah, Flora and Sigurd on a banner because we all know why :^)

Kellam jokes stopped being funny 4 years ago
Says the guy making Sigurd jokes

It must be because they're all compelling characters in their localisations rather than one-note meme characters.

Effie should take notes. :^)
 
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It must be because they're all compelling characters in their localisations rather than one-note meme characters.

Effie should take notes. :^)
Ah yes, Sigurd and his beautiful and official localisation
Alongside Rinkah's and Flora's compelling characters
Truly things that must be searched for but have not been found yet
Much like Rinkah herself after Chapter 11, no one knows what happened to the mouse
My only friend alive is going to Japan and I cant even go with her
Wow, alright, rude, I'm alive, kay?

 

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It must be because they're all compelling characters in their localisations rather than one-note meme characters.

Effie should take notes. :^)
You mean she wasn't in the original writing?

We're gonna need a doctor to heal all these burns.
 
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It must be because they're all compelling characters in their localisations rather than one-note meme characters.

Effie should take notes. :^)
Ummmm
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Sigurd's game was only planned for a localization before the incest stuff was found
Sigurd and Flora are the same according to the fandom and RInkah has relevance to the meme
 
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I dont go on trips with my children, son
Would you be able to survive Japan?
Do I have to call you mommy then?
More importantly, would YOU be able to survive a trip to Japan if I called you mommy all the time?
You mean she wasn't in the original writing?

We're gonna need a doctor to heal all these burns.
So I guess the banner is now Rinkah, Flora, Sigurd AND ChikoLad :^)
Ummmm
Chiko
Sigurd's game was only planned for a localization before the incest stuff was found
Sigurd and Flora are the same according to the fandom and RInkah has relevance to the meme
There was never a planned localisation for FE4 and I doubt the (forced) incest would be any reason for them to stop
please, the only good characters in Fates are Jakob and Niles
You do realise Forrest and Shura are in the game, right?

 

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Ah yes, Sigurd and his beautiful and official localisation
Alongside Rinkah's and Flora's compelling characters
Truly things that must be searched for but have not been found yet
Much like Rinkah herself after Chapter 11, no one knows what happened to the mouse
Nah, plenty have found it, they're just actually good at the game.

Sigurd's game was only planned for a localization before the incest stuff was found
 

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You do realise Forrest and Shura are in the game, right?
ok, the only good characters are Jakob, Niles, Shura and Forrest.

Nina belongs in the trash were she belongs. Lazlows child can go there too
Do I have to call you mommy then?
More importantly, would YOU be able to survive a trip to Japan if I called you mommy all the time?
considering I would be on a buying spree, yeah Id survive. Id probay lose you in Akihabara going anime merch shopping
 
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Personally I really liked most of Fates' characters.

I don't know if I'm extremely forgiving or I have low expectations.
 

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Personally I really liked most of Fates' characters.

I don't know if I'm extremely forgiving or I have low expectations.
I mainly enjoyed Ryoma, Felicia, and Takumi.

And Arthur, Justice Incarnate.
Ryoma committing actual seppuku in Conquest was sad. :(
 
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Nah, plenty have found it, they're just actually good at the game.



I wish there was a game where a character stops being **** when you git gud
Would do wonders for Tharja
Id probay lose you in Akihabara
Did you know that whenever you're walking in Akihabara, you're walking over 5 floors of doujinshi? I think that's an important fact more people should know about
I mainly enjoyed Ryoma, Felicia, and Takumi.

And Arthur, Justice Incarnate.
Ryoma committing actual seppuku in Conquest was sad. :(
Oh yeah, Arthur
Kinda sad I lost my One For All solo run of his, oh well, he still manages to reach 100% crit in my new file

 

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Personally I really liked most of Fates' characters.

I don't know if I'm extremely forgiving or I have low expectations.
Most of them are pretty inoffensive honestly, and are generally pretty likable, if a little bland. A lot of the hate comes from purists of the old games, or people taking the actually terrible instances and making a blanket generalisation across the entire cast as a result because they want the purists to find them cool (even though most of them probably .

A number of the characters (Rinkah, Kaze, Scarlet, Leo, Selena, Laslow, and a bunch more) have a good bit of nuance to them and have a lot of charm too, and never cause any real problems in the main story.

As well as the one's listed, I particularly like Takumi, Ryoma, Hinoka, Arthur, Odin, and Felicia. Elise was really well written in Birthright but was otherwise a generic loli trope.
 

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Thinkin' that I'm gonna crop it and see if someone is willing add a rainbow grid- just like with my current avatar.

Dunno if @Flight is still around these days, but if you are, would you mind helping me with that, please?
Pirates may have stolen the new Pirates movie from Disney.

Amazing. Beautiful.
Yo ho ho and a DVD of Yo ho ho
 
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Personally I really liked most of Fates' characters.

I don't know if I'm extremely forgiving or I have low expectations.
I can understand the hate for a couple. But all in all, I thought the cast was pretty diverse. I think the major problem just comes from little action from them outside of Supports and their starting scenes. In some old Fire Emblem games, quite a bunch of characters had scenes of their own regardless of whether you played with them or not. Then you also had the fact that in past Fire Emblems where you needed certain characters to get other characters and you had characters who could actually interact with the enemies. While Fates does still have the later, it's far and few between. Besides some of the siblings, Corrin and Azura, the only others who have their own conversations with enemies are Kaze with Saizo(Conquest), Felicia and Jakob with Flora, and Saizo and Shura with the one Ninja guy. Otherwise, as far as I know, no one else can. Does anybody remember Selena's support with Subaki? How Selena heard about Subaki being a Pegasus Knight known for his "perfect" nature?
Selena: Your face looks familiar. Wait! Are you...

Subaki: Yes?

Selena: You're Hoshido's supposedly perfect superhuman, Subaki! I've always been curious to put your legendary skills to the test.

Subaki: What are you talking about?

Selena: Back when I lived in Nohr, I heard many tall tales about your feats. People said that the Hoshidan army had a pegasus knight of considerable skill. That his every movement was the very picture of effortless grace. Oh, and they said he was a first-rate gentleman and handsome to boot. A real prodigy in every regard.

Subaki: Heh. Yes, I can say without hesitation that they were referring to me.
Imagine if that also spread out to Birthright and Conquest and if you had Subaki face Selena in Birthright or vice-versa in Conquest, Selena would comment to him about him being the "perfect" Pegasus Knight. Silas tried to comment to Xander alongside Corrin in Chapter 12 Birthright. How about if Silas also had a fight conversation with him in that chapter? Effie and Hana in Conquest Chapter 22? Hinoka to Camilla in Chapter 13 Birthright? Takumi to Leo in Chapter 18 Birthright? Beruka to Oboro in Conquest? It's surprising how Kaze didn't have a chat with the one ninja guy like Saizo did.

Then you have some of the writing. In the case of Corrin, Azura and some of the siblings, they suffered from bad writing. And then you have how some characters were handled in some of their supports. Like you have a really good support between Laslow and Peri that gives Peri really good development for her character.....than you have some of her other ones. Basically, I think the characters in Fates were diverse and pretty good, but underutilised in the main game and suffered during the times when bad writing did come in.
I just wonder how Intelligent Systems will take this criticism with the writing for the next Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem Fates was a really great game gameplay-wise and brought in some very great things for the gameplay. But the story and the writing were poorly done. I just hope IS keeps the really good things about from Fates while trying to fix the bad in a slow and steady manner, compared to being rushed in Fates.

Edit: To give a better picture, the actual concept for Fates with the whole "Choose a side" thing was a great concept. Much different compared to past Fire Emblems which is mostly a start-to-finish deal. But the writing and actual story felt very rushed, as if they had this great concept, but due to businesses and the fact that they had to make 2 different games for each side, the story and writing were rushed and polished very little.
And I think that's the main problem behind Fates' story and writing was that while you had good moments, they were very little in between and some scenes had this feel of "You really didn't think this through, did you?"
 
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I can understand the hate for a couple. But all in all, I thought the cast was pretty diverse. I think the major problem just comes from little action from them outside of Supports and their starting scenes. In some old Fire Emblem games, quite a bunch of characters had scenes of their own regardless of whether you played with them or not. Then you also had the fact that in past Fire Emblems where you needed certain characters to get other characters and you had characters who could actually interact with the enemies. While Fates does still have the later, it's far and few between. Besides some of the siblings, Corrin and Azura, the only others who have their own conversations with enemies are Kaze with Saizo(Conquest), Felicia and Jakob with Flora, and Saizo and Shura with the one Ninja guy. Otherwise, as far as I know, no one else can. Does anybody remember Selena's support with Subaki? How Selena heard about Subaki being a Pegasus Knight known for his "perfect" nature?

Imagine if that also spread out to Birthright and Conquest and if you had Subaki face Selena in Birthright or vice-versa in Conquest, Selena would comment to him about him being the "perfect" Pegasus Knight. Silas tried to comment to Xander alongside Corrin in Chapter 12 Birthright. How about if Silas also had a fight conversation with him in that chapter? Effie and Hana in Conquest Chapter 22? Hinoka to Camilla in Chapter 13 Birthright? Takumi to Leo in Chapter 18 Birthright? Beruka to Oboro in Conquest? It's surprising how Kaze didn't have a chat with the one ninja guy like Saizo did.

Then you have some of the writing. In the case of Corrin, Azura and some of the siblings, they suffered from bad writing. And then you have how some characters were handled in some of their supports. Like you have a really good support between Laslow and Peri that gives Peri really good development for her character.....than you have some of her other ones. Basically, I think the characters in Fates were diverse and pretty good, but underutilised in the main game and suffered during the times when bad writing did come in.
I just wonder how Intelligent Systems will take this criticism with the writing for the next Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem Fates was a really great game gameplay-wise and brought in some very great things for the gameplay. But the story and the writing were poorly done. I just hope IS keeps the really good things about from Fates while trying to fix the bad in a slow and steady manner, compared to being rushed in Fates.

Edit: To give a better picture, the actual concept for Fates with the whole "Choose a side" thing was a great concept. Much different compared to past Fire Emblems which is mostly a start-to-finish deal. But the writing and actual story felt very rushed, as if they had this great concept, but due to businesses and the fact that they had to make 2 different games for each side, the story and writing were rushed and polished very little.
And I think that's the main problem behind Fates' story and writing was that while you had good moments, they were very little in between and some scenes had this feel of "You really didn't think this through, did you?"
One of my favorite things ever were the special boss convos, Awakening also did them poorly(Chrom, Robin and Say'ri were the only ones who had them, hell, not even Lucina had any afaik) so I was surprised when I sent Joshua against Carlyle in FE8 and got a short convo(I had literally no idea they had a connection when I first played it), then I sent him against Caellach next chapter(because Joshua was literally my answer to anything) and what the ****, I get backstory?
After that, I always tried looking up special convos like these whenever I could, FE7 didn't disappoint me on that but Fates did. A lot.
Kaze has one with Saizo in C12 but not in C25? None of the foils from each side have convos, not even the goddamn royals outside of Camilla vs. Hinoka in C11(which also does not return in C24). The Nohrian nobles don't get a convo with their father and Kaze doesn't get one with Kotaro.
There's so much missed opportunity with Fates in that regard, especially since I tend to like characters with them more, curiously, it's the sole reason I even gave Shura a chance.

Oh yeah, but the worst offender is probably the lack of Gunter vs. Hans
Imagine rewarding the player for somehow using Conquest Gunter with a special dialogue between the two, it could even have been used to foreshadow his possession by Anankos.
I just imagine Gunter going "let's see who gets out alive this time, *****!" And that would have been enough for me to dump all of my stat boosts on him

I know Echoes likely has 0% of those but if anything, I hope FE16 brings special boss convos back to their full glory

 

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I can understand the hate for a couple. But all in all, I thought the cast was pretty diverse. I think the major problem just comes from little action from them outside of Supports and their starting scenes. In some old Fire Emblem games, quite a bunch of characters had scenes of their own regardless of whether you played with them or not. Then you also had the fact that in past Fire Emblems where you needed certain characters to get other characters and you had characters who could actually interact with the enemies. While Fates does still have the later, it's far and few between. Besides some of the siblings, Corrin and Azura, the only others who have their own conversations with enemies are Kaze with Saizo(Conquest), Felicia and Jakob with Flora, and Saizo and Shura with the one Ninja guy. Otherwise, as far as I know, no one else can. Does anybody remember Selena's support with Subaki? How Selena heard about Subaki being a Pegasus Knight known for his "perfect" nature?

Imagine if that also spread out to Birthright and Conquest and if you had Subaki face Selena in Birthright or vice-versa in Conquest, Selena would comment to him about him being the "perfect" Pegasus Knight. Silas tried to comment to Xander alongside Corrin in Chapter 12 Birthright. How about if Silas also had a fight conversation with him in that chapter? Effie and Hana in Conquest Chapter 22? Hinoka to Camilla in Chapter 13 Birthright? Takumi to Leo in Chapter 18 Birthright? Beruka to Oboro in Conquest? It's surprising how Kaze didn't have a chat with the one ninja guy like Saizo did.

Then you have some of the writing. In the case of Corrin, Azura and some of the siblings, they suffered from bad writing. And then you have how some characters were handled in some of their supports. Like you have a really good support between Laslow and Peri that gives Peri really good development for her character.....than you have some of her other ones. Basically, I think the characters in Fates were diverse and pretty good, but underutilised in the main game and suffered during the times when bad writing did come in.
I just wonder how Intelligent Systems will take this criticism with the writing for the next Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem Fates was a really great game gameplay-wise and brought in some very great things for the gameplay. But the story and the writing were poorly done. I just hope IS keeps the really good things about from Fates while trying to fix the bad in a slow and steady manner, compared to being rushed in Fates.

Edit: To give a better picture, the actual concept for Fates with the whole "Choose a side" thing was a great concept. Much different compared to past Fire Emblems which is mostly a start-to-finish deal. But the writing and actual story felt very rushed, as if they had this great concept, but due to businesses and the fact that they had to make 2 different games for each side, the story and writing were rushed and polished very little.
And I think that's the main problem behind Fates' story and writing was that while you had good moments, they were very little in between and some scenes had this feel of "You really didn't think this through, did you?"
I know it probably doesn't count since it's not part of the story, but Laslow, Selena, and Odin also technically have special "enemy" conversations with Lucina and Robin in their Hero Battles.

I agree with your general point though. A lot of the characters are fine and inoffensive in Fates, but a number of them are utilised poorly due to, what I like to call, "segmented writing". Being that rather than having one cohesive narrative, you have multiple narratives going on at once. Rather than having cohesive development with characters, they have to be repurposed for all of these possible outcomes, like the three different paths and the different potential supports. Supports themselves are also an isolated thing and don't effect each other. Let's say for example, you marry Xander to Felicia. Then you have Peri, who is obviously Xander's retainer and cares deeply about his well-being, and could still reach A-Support with him even when he's married to Felicia. Then you let Peri and Felicia have a support and...suddenly Peri attempts to murder Xander's wife due to her hatred of maids. If they wanted to make the support mechanic more fleshed out, they would, for example, have Peri and Felicia's support change if Felicia is married to Xander, so it's not as non-sensical (either Peri is simply portrayed as not liking Felicia and takes some time to warm up to her, or at least, add in a jealousy angle where Peri is in fact in love with Xander and is jealous of Felicia being married to him, making her attack a little less non-sensical and having a genuine motive).

I also heard Fates actually had completely different writers for the three different paths, likely so the development team could develop the three games simultaneously in a timely fashion. Understandable, but that's exactly why we have Elise having an amazing character arc and development in Birthright...only for her to basically be a generic loli trope elsewhere. And other similar instances.

Pretty much all of my favourite characters, like Takumi, Ryoma, Hinoka, Leo, Rinkah, and Kaze, are the ones who somehow manage to be largely unaffected by this segmented writing, and somehow manage to remain charming, interesting, and consistently characterised no matter what path you take and no matter who they support with.
 
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Azura is the best Dancer in the series, unfortunately, she's as boring as binge-watching Jessica Jones.

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I looked up the three writers things because I could swear I had heard it was just one manga writer but Wikipedia lists 3, one is supposddly said manga writer.
The other two, well...
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/07/1...worked-on-fire-emblem-fates-third-story-path/
Guess I found out the problem

The other gave me this on google
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/nami-komuro/credits/developerId,609074/
Considering she's credited for Awakening, I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume she also did Fates. It doesn't tell us anything though.

 
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