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[FalKoopa]

Someone explain to me what this whole "March for Science" thing is.

I've been hearing about it but don't quite get what it's about.

It's political. It basically asks for governments to take scientific data into account and listen to scientists while making policies and what not.

 

[ChikoLad]

Im not that dense

I just think it's weird how blunt it all is. Especially after basically calling Black Knohgt an idiot for implying the Magicist had any part in anything


Unrelated, finally started watching Zeta Gundam. Been waiting for this since forever ago after playing Dynasty Warriors gundam. Kamille has already gotten himself n so much trouble over nothing. Dude why

Your post has been approved by the Court of Manly Men.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Im not that dense

I just think it's weird how blunt it all is. Especially after basically calling Black Knohgt an idiot for implying the Magicist had any part in anything


Unrelated, finally started watching Zeta Gundam. Been waiting for this since forever ago after playing Dynasty Warriors gundam. Kamille has already gotten himself n so much trouble over nothing. Dude why

I interpretted it as Mona yelling at Plague Knight as in "Wait, you did this for her? I thought we had something special you idiot!".

 

[ChikoLad]

It's political. It basically asks for governments to take scientific data into account and listen to scientists while making policies and what not.

Did something specific happen to start the movement?

It seems like it's happen all over the world, not just the US.

 

[Opossum]

ChikoLad


Trump thinks climate change is a hoax made by the Chinese, appointed a climate change denier and big oil shill as head of the EPA, defunded the EPA, continued production on the Keystone and Dakota pipelines, revoked several acts Obama put in place to protect our water, is a known anti-vaxxer, is an opponent of the Paris Agreement, and still pushes the myth that is "clean" coal...among other things.

 

[ChikoLad]

ChikoLad


Trump thinks climate change is a hoax made by the Chinese, appointed a climate change denier and big oil shill as head of the EPA, defunded the EPA, continued production on the Keystone and Dakota pipelines, revoked several acts Obama put in place to protect our water, is a known anti-vaxxer, is an opponent of the Paris Agreement, and still pushes the myth that is "clean" coal...among other things.

What confuses me is how it became a worldwide movement when it's mostly a problem with Trump being Trump.

Not that I think it's a bad cause, quite the contrary.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Spoiler: Rant about Sayance March

Lol as if science isn't already hauled as Undeniable Truth even though it gets outdated and researches can even contradict eachother.
Like how everything is causing life expectancy to drop if science is to be believed.

I thought science was supposed to trigger critical thinking instead of hauling anything as truth because One Smart Dude said so.

Asking the government to take that science as truth is a horrible idea most of the time, because most research revolves around 'X is dangerous and if you like your life don't use it" and I don't want everything to be Banned For Your Safety

Yeah it's stupid Trump denies everything if his DeDeDe his not his source but if there's one thing the world doesn''t need is "experts" telling people what and what not to do.

Just call it the Climate Change Is Real Trump You Dip**** March but pretending science is not taken seriously is silly.

 

[Opossum]

What confuses me is how it became a worldwide movement when it's mostly a problem with Trump being Trump.

Not that I think it's a bad cause, quite the contrary.

I definitely know what you mean.

Ideally it wouldn't need to be this big of a thing, but given how his intended policies can have disastrous effects the world over, especially coming after one of the US's most environmentally conscious leaders in decades, I can see why it's become an international thing.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

As if Trump cares about a march on Malieveld, The Netherlands

 

[ChikoLad]

I definitely know what you mean.

Ideally it wouldn't need to be this big of a thing, but given how his intended policies can have disastrous effects the world over, especially coming after one of the US's most environmentally conscious leaders in decades, I can see why it's become an international thing.

I suppose things could be seriously bad for everyone in this case if nobody took action.

Hope you guys get what you want!

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm not sure why it's happening in Europe and Australia tbh.

They have a pretty strong environmental laws, so it's not there for awareness at least.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I'm not sure why it's happening in Europe and Australia tbh.

They have a pretty strong environmental laws, so it's not there for awareness at least.

Liberal Europe takes every chance to show they really don't like Trump I guess

 

[Opossum]

As if Trump cares about a march on Malieveld, The Netherlands

Trump doesn't care about anything that doesn't benefit him and him specifically. It's not about that. It's about standing up for what you know is right in the face of adversity.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Trump doesn't care about anything that doesn't benefit him and him specifically. It's not about that. It's about standing up for what you know is right in the face of adversity.

Yeah but if that adversity doesn't care is it really anything else than a way to show you're noble?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Yeah but if that adversity doesn't care is it really anything else than a way to show you're noble?

If people are loud enough some people might listen, even if the target doesn't

 

[Deleted member]

Playing more plague knight


The dude gets a screw attack. Officially the best character and bets game.

Also Mona just left for some reason RIP

The Screw Attack Cloak is terrible for platforming and that's why I love screwing around with it
It's so fun to do successful wall jumps with it.
Plague Knight is probably my favorite of the three in terms of movement options

I interpretted it as Mona yelling at Plague Knight as in "Wait, you did this for her? I thought we had something special you idiot!".

Wasn't thst clear enough? I'm pretty sure she made it clear that's what she thought

And about that, I have to give it to YCG because I usually hate how misinformation and lack of communication is used to create easily avoidable drama but they managed to make it work in PoS

 

[Opossum]

Yeah but if that adversity doesn't care is it really anything else than a way to show you're noble?

It raises awareness. Awareness is a good thing. Increased awareness brings about an increased chance of Trump and his cronies getting the boot in 2020, and the senators and representatives that support his inanity.


It's not a show of self-righteousness, but a show of solidarity.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

If people are loud enough some people might listen, even if the target doesn't

It raises awareness. Awareness is a good thing. Increased awareness brings about an increased chance of Trump and his cronies getting the boot in 2020, and the senators and representatives that support his inanity.


It's not a show of self-righteousness, but a show of solidarity.

That's true, but I don't think climate change deniers/anti-vaccs are swayed by a march instead of actual facts.

Trump fans aren't going to be swayed by a march either and in fact it puts Trump in the hated underdog positon again, like with the election and Hillary's "Deplorables" comment.

Science and facts will sway people, not a march of the noble.

 

[ChikoLad]

Yeah but if that adversity doesn't care is it really anything else than a way to show you're noble?

I think this a situation where the Butterfly Effect could be relevant.

Everything that happens influences everything else.

Trump may not necessarily care right now, but it's better that people plant this seed now than do nothing at all. It may not effect Trump directly, but it could effect someone with the ability to sway him on some things (e.g. an advisor or even someone close to him personally). Or it could, at the very least, make sure whoever is next line for presidency can see these events and endeavour to not make the same kind of decisions as Trump - that person doesn't know who they are right now and neither does anybody else, but they exist in the world and can be influenced.

People may ultimately be acting on a slim, or even a vain hope, but it's better than having no hope and not acting at all.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

finally, my units ar strong enough to beat lvl 100+ enemies
*pushes a dead Killia to the side*

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I think this a situation where the Butterfly Effect could be relevant.

Everything that happens influences everything else.

Trump may not necessarily care right now, but it's better that people plant this seed now than do nothing at all. It may not effect Trump directly, but it could effect someone with the ability to sway him on some things (e.g. an advisor or even someone close to him personally). Or it could, at the very least, make sure whoever is next line for presidency can see these events and endeavour to not make the same kind of decisions as Trump - that person doesn't know who they are right now and neither does anybody else, but they exist in the world and can be influenced.

People may ultimately be acting on a slim, or even a vain hope, but it's better than having no hope and not acting at all.

Yeah, this is the real reason people should organise marches and demonstrations but people act like Trump is going to be remotely swayed with enough desperate dutch liberals on a field across the ocean.

I think some marches can help, even if it is to evoke discussion but this one's a weird one

 

[Opossum]

That's true, but I don't think climate change deniers/anti-vaccs are swayed by a march instead of actual facts.

Trump fans aren't going to be swayed by a march either and in fact it puts Trump in the hated underdog positon again, like with the election and Hillary's "Deplorables" comment.

Science and facts will sway people, not a march of the noble.

The people who didn't vote are still a huge factor, as well as those who only vote in Presidential elections and not state or local ones. Like, if I can get one person to vow to vote Pat Toomey out of office who otherwise wouldn't have voted, I'd be pleased, even if it was only indirectly.

Change starts small. And as someone who's from one of the districts that made Pennsylvania vote red for the first time in years, it's important to me.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That's true, but I don't think climate change deniers/anti-vaccs are swayed by a march instead of actual facts.

Along with Flat Earth believers, none of those will ever listen to facts tbh. Anti vaccine idiots especially. Those ****s shouldn't be allowed to have kids

 

[ChikoLad]

Yeah, this is the real reason people should organise marches and demonstrations but people act like Trump is going to be remotely swayed with enough desperate dutch liberals on a field across the ocean.

I think some marches can help, even if it is to evoke discussion but this one's a weird one

From the perspective of the European/Austrailian/Japanese marchers, I'd imagine it's more a case of showing support for their American brethren than anything else.

But even still, Trump's actions can effect them, even if it's not as likely and the impact may not be as severe. To not march or otherwise do something would show complacency.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

The people who didn't vote are still a huge factor, as well as those who only vote in Presidential elections and not state or local ones. Like, if I can get one person to vow to vote Pat Toomey out of office who otherwise wouldn't have voted, I'd be pleased, even if it was only indirectly.

Change starts small. And as someone who's from one of the districts that made Pennsylvania vote red for the first time in years, it's important to me.

Yeah, but that's only vaguely relevant to the science-topic, even if this march is probably just another excuse to kick at Trump again

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oh WOW. DCEU digitally slimmed down the actress for The Enchantress in SS. If you have to digitally slim down MODELS, then we've truly reached impossible standards for beauty lmao

 

[Metal Shop X]

So, I have played Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator with my sister.
And let's just say that, we are cleary noob at fighting game that aren't called Smash. But we still had a great time fighting each other. (Tough, Ramlethal seem to not be a character for me. Which make me sad since she is the character I wanted to play the most. But I will try to play more with her before giving my final judgement)
On that note, I didn't play every character, but Faust seem to be the one I am going to play the most. His projectile game is pretty good and easy to use to me, so I can see him as my main for now.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

You know, I wouldnt mind having Happy Home Designer on the switch

 

[FalKoopa]

Queen Sectonia taught me how bad I'm at Kirby.

I lost so many lives that the Bandana Dee started handing out golden tomatoes (which fully restore health) instead of the normal bottle it gives. >_>

 

[Deleted member]

Oh WOW. DCEU digitally slimmed down the actress for The Enchantress in SS. If you have to digitally slim down MODELS, then we've truly reached impossible standards for beauty lmao

Watch, robots will replace models in the future!

 

[A Distant Demon]

It's really weird watching a show when you know a character is going to inevitably be a traitor but you aren't quite sure when or how. Damn Titans.

Actually one would go to Titans and one goes to AEUG. huh

 

[redfeatherraven]

That's true, but I don't think climate change deniers/anti-vaccs are swayed by a march instead of actual facts.

If the actual facts would sway them we wouldn't have them. The march is also unlikely to make much headway with them.

The fact is, these people need a reason to change a deeply held belief that what they're doing is best in the face of louder voices. It doesn't matter that FUD may have been their initial source, it then becomes a matter of personal belief and trust.

The path to revising those beliefs isn't typically the repetition of "you're wrong," no matter whether or not that may be correct, and no matter if a chart or a mob says it.

Yeah, this is the real reason people should organise marches and demonstrations but people act like Trump is going to be remotely swayed with enough desperate dutch liberals on a field across the ocean.

Of course he won't. Marches in his own country do have a better chance, but...this is Trump. I really don't think he cares, period.

What this can do is raise general awareness of counterpoints to his stances. If those counterpoints are reasonable, and not well addressed by the administration, it could well undermine his support with that 41.9% that still approve of him.

The worst case scenario is that it will raise solidarity of people who care about these issues. Just the knowledge that you're not alone can be a powerful thing, and it may yet galvanize effects of its own even outside the political arena.

In that alone it's important even if Trump flat ignores it. Which he will. Real talk. I imagine he's already in Mar-a-Lago using the briefing to wipe away the aftermath of his morning Drumpf. But the march still has a purpose nonetheless.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It's really weird watching a show when you know a character is going to inevitably be a traitor but you aren't quite sure when or how. Damn Titans.

Actually one would go to Titans and one goes to AEUG. huh

ok, Imma need some context on this

Drumpf

I dont think thisnis an insult as everyone makes it out to be if you know what the word actually is

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Queen Sectonia taught me how bad I'm at Kirby.

I lost so many lives that the Bandana Dee started handing out golden tomatoes (which fully restore health) instead of the normal bottle it gives. >_>

Oh wow. Granted, Sectonia's a tricky boss if you're not prepared and aren't using Beetle. Beetle Kirby guarantees victory, Spiraling Horn and the dash attack are both stronger and grant LOTS of invincibility frames

 

[ChikoLad]

I don't remember having much trouble with Queen Sectonia.

I remember thinking the end part was epic though.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I don't remember having much trouble with Queen Sectonia.

I remember thinking the end part was epic though.

Damn straight it's epic! Though what ability did you use? As again, Beetle snaps the game in half

 

[Deleted member]

"The opposition won't listen so the movement is pointless" is a terrible argument because it implies that it's better to do nothing than to fight ignorant forces.
People act to motivate others to act, not to convert the opposition.

It's really weird watching a show when you know a character is going to inevitably be a traitor but you aren't quite sure when or how. Damn Titans.

Actually one would go to Titans and one goes to AEUG. huh

Are we talking about Teen Titans?

 

[redfeatherraven]

ok, Imma need some context on this

The context is that crushing on Terra in high school was a ****ty idea.

Sigh.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Jeez. Dead parents by episode 3. Zeta clearly does not give a ****

ok, Imma need some context on this

Spoiler: Spoilers for an anime that is older than me

In Zeta Gundam there are basically 2 factions relevant to this. The AEUG (Anti Earth Union Group) and the Titans.

One member of the Titans, Emma, becomes a member of the AEUG. Reccoa, a member of AEUG becomes one of the tiatans

I have no idea when or how though which makes things more interesting

"The opposition won't listen so the movement is pointless" is a terrible argument because it implies that it's better to do nothing than to fight ignorant forces.
People act to motivate others to act, not to convert the opposition.

Are we talking about Teen Titans?

Zeta Gundam

No attack on Titan jokes to be had here either

 

[ChikoLad]

Damn straight it's epic! Though what ability did you use? As again, Beetle snaps the game in half

I don't think it was Beetle. I know how OP that is though.

Plasma was always one of my favourite powers so there's a chance I was using that, I tend to use it a lot in any game it's available in. Might have been Bell too since I enjoyed it in that game.