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. Like the "Wage Gap" which there ARE laws that require all men and woman should be paid equally
I REALLY HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE BRING UP THE WAGE GAP BECAUSE 90% OF THE TIME THEY GET THE IDEA WRONG!!!

Thank you for knowing what the wage gap actually is.

It does exist, but it doesn't mean what most people think it means.
 

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No one thinks women shouldn't have the same rights as men except ********.

The problem is that groups are using false information to try and create inequality and people are believing them without doing any kind of research for themselves. Like the "Wage Gap" which there ARE laws that require all men and woman should be paid equally

But what people are doing is taking the earnings of all men and woman and finding out the average and seeing that there is a difference between that and calling it a wage gap.

You can't really expect taking two groups of people, especially that large, when they all have their own unique wants and desires and motivations (Free Will) and expect it to be 100% even
Well I was more just trying to come up with an example of a completely opposite point than anything, but. . .

Well I'd guess that probably has to do with the fields pursued by each gender or something. There probably are several situations where women are actively put at a disadvantage anyway, though, they're probably just ignored in favor of making mountains out of molehills on an overall level.

Really, I get the feeling that pursuing more extreme examples of sexism and dragging them out into the open as publicly as possible would be more effective than casting a wider net of things that society hasn't adjusted enough to take care of yet, but apparently that's not how most people see it.
 

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No one thinks women shouldn't have the same rights as men except ********.

The problem is that groups are using false information to try and create inequality and people are believing them without doing any kind of research for themselves. Like the "Wage Gap" which there ARE laws that require all men and woman should be paid equally

But what people are doing is taking the earnings of all men and woman and finding out the average and seeing that there is a difference between that and calling it a wage gap.

You can't really expect taking two groups of people, especially that large, when they all have their own unique wants and desires and motivations (Free Will) and expect it to be 100% even
I hate that it's become sexist to say that Men and Women have equal rights in America when it's the ****ing truth.
 

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Erm, I guess this is a bad time to gush about FE Conquest. I'll come back later.
 
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Maybe one day people will realise that there's a differemce between an opinion and a comment that offends someone's existence
"White feminism is a term for feminism that fails to be intersectional. Contrary to most other movements above, white feminism is a term that people rarely use for themselves; instead, other feminists label certain feminists as ‘white feminists’ when they fail to account for intersectionality."

"Black feminism holds that sexism, racism and class oppression are all linked together. This type of feminism was started by Black feminists in the US, though many similar movements exist around the world. Black feminism is the movement that came up with intersectionality (see below), which is an integral part of Black feminism."

Black Feminism is a positive definition, white feminism is a pejorative used by feminists to insult white people that don't go off the hierarchy of oppression used by intersectional feminists

Hierarchy of Oppression
  • Men oppress Women
  • Heterosexuals oppress Homosexuality, Bi and A-sexual
  • The Able oppress the Disabled
  • White oppresses everyone else (even Asians who statically are better off as a group), but especially blacks. All non-blacks/white are somewhere in between (Hispanics, Arabs, etc)
  • Citizens oppress Immigrants
  • Cis genders oppress Transgender/ Gender Fluid
Feminists use the hierarchy of oppression to give others a higher voice in their order. And white woman are second to last, with only white men being at the bottom.
I... don't see the point of this post?
Like, are you trying to tell me whit women are being oppressed by feminists? Because if so, alright, I guess?
who were defending some BLM members torturing a man with down syndrom
I remember that, though I'd rather forget about it.
I still believe BLM is a good support movement but that was the kind of thing that makes me hate this world we live in
If I said that about conservatives, you would react VERY differently.
Probably because the majority of conservatives are prejudiced due to what it represents while the good examples are the exception
Where are you getting opinions on FE6 that people say Sacae route i better? I suppose i's subjective, but most people I know say prefer Ilia. Also it's pretty universally considered easier.
I've been hearing it from some FE6 videos(who love to bring it up even if not related) and some forum or reddit posts
Guess people have ****taste
 
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Even though I think BLM doesn't do anything well for black communities, I don't think those people were part of BLM.
They were BLM supporters, not only that but they were defended if not praised by many other BLM supporters. Supporters that knew what they did was wrong on the other hand claimed that they had nothing to do with BLM(even though they did), some going as far to say that it was a conspiracy in order for white people to hate black people.

The thing with BLM is that it's not an established group, so people with both radical and reasonable causes can technically be 'apart' of it. There's no official members or anything like that. I just don't like it when reasonable people especially try to justify irrational people. That's what I mean @Shishœ, I have no doubt that people have good intentions(often just misguided), but there's a lot of terrible people that speak the loudest for the cause that people try to justify.

I REALLY HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE BRING UP THE WAGE GAP BECAUSE 90% OF THE TIME THEY GET THE IDEA WRONG!!!

Thank you for knowing what the wage gap actually is.

It does exist, but it doesn't mean what most people think it means.
The thing with the wage gap is though that you couldn't fix it unless we were to stop being a free market economy as that's the reasoning as to why the wage gap exists, because people tend to earn vastly differently than other people. A man and a women earn the same amount on a job with a consistent salary.

Erm, I guess this is a bad time to gush about FE Conquest. I'll come back later.
Well, just keep in mind the discussion is likely to end sooner when someone brings up another topic. I'm willing to discuss conquest, it's fun to talk about.
 
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Maybe one day people will realise that there's a differemce between an opinion and a comment that offends someone's existence

I... don't see the point of this post?
Like, are you trying to tell me whit women are being oppressed by feminists? Because if so, alright, I guess?

I remember that, though I'd rather forget about it.
I still believe BLM is a good support movement but that was the kind of thing that makes me hate this world we live in

Probably because the majority of conservatives are prejudiced due to what it represents while the good examples are the exception

I've been hearing it from some FE6 videos(who love to bring it up even if not related) and some forum or reddit posts
Guess people have ****taste
No, I'm just defending my position of saying JonTron wasn't completely wrong even if he said some of those points. It does really seem like white women are being pushed out of feminism. Whether or not that's a good thing, it at least appears to be the truth.

How does conservatism represent prejudice? Whether or not the republican party has changed, it was the republicans that freed the slaves
 
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Great every SINGLE board I frequent is now stuck on politics.

I just wanted to play videogames!
 

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What is one right that men have in America that women don't?
The draft, I guess?

I'm probably sexist for saying this but I'm fine if you guys keep that though, LOL. I'd rather just stay home and not be traumatized for life.

And that's less of a right and more of a. . .something else. Obligation?
 

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If I expressed it that way, I apologize. You should still be able to speak regardless of your political ideology. All I'm saying is that, just because he's free to express them, doesn't mean I or anyone else isn't free to critic them.

Anyone is free to say that Climate Change is a hoax, and I'm free to push back against that. They are also free to push back against my ideas.


That still doesn't mean you can't challenge them. You may not be able to change his views, but perhaps by challenging them, someone else could learn or become more aware of something

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Don't put your faith in people who say things like "it's not an opinion, it's hate", or "offensive speech isn't free speech".

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The draft, I guess?

I'm probably sexist for saying this but I'm fine if you guys keep that though, LOL. I'd rather just stay home and not be traumatized for life.

And that's less of a right and more of a. . .something else. Obligation?
The draft is not a right, there is no advantage of men to be drafted

Yeah, it's more of an obligation. If you are a man and want to have the right to vote, you are required to sign up for the draft
 
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How does conservatism represent prejudice? Whether or not the republican party has changed, it was the republicans that freed the slaves
Keep in mind though that progressives used to be republican and that conservatives used to be democrat. Republican and Democrat actually doesn't define whether or not your conservative or liberal. The past's democrats are today's republicans and vice versa, especially when it comes to the areas that support them and what they stand for. When it comes to progressive vs conservative anyway, Democrat and Republican don't represent your social beliefs, though people think it does because both parties are so polarized.
 
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Probably because the majority of conservatives are prejudiced due to what it represents while the good examples are the exception
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Do you have any sense of self awareness?

You should stop taking the actions of a certain small group as representation of the whole movement
So, if you agree politically with the group, its not okay to judge the whole group as they're just assholes in the group, but this other group I don't agree with has the assholes as the majority?

This is so hypocritical its bordering on parody.
 
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They were BLM supporters, not only that but they were defended if not praised by many other BLM supporters. Supporters that knew what they did was wrong on the other hand claimed that they had nothing to do with BLM(even though they did), some going as far to say that it was a conspiracy in order for white people to hate black people.

The thing with BLM is that it's not an established group, so people with both radical and reasonable causes can technically be 'apart' of it. There's no official members or anything like that. I just don't like it when reasonable people especially try to justify irrational people. That's what I mean @Shishœ, I have no doubt that people have good intentions(often just misguided), but there's a lot of ill intentioned people that speak the loudest for the cause that people try to justify.
Can you provide me an article confirming that they were supporters? I've checked other articles but couldn't find anything stating it.
Honestly, I'd think BLM would do more good if they actually started solving the current issues that are present in black communities.
 

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The draft, I guess?

I'm probably sexist for saying this but I'm fine if you guys keep that though, LOL. I'd rather just stay home and not be traumatized for life.

And that's less of a right and more of a. . .something else. Obligation?
Oh god, the draft.

Make no mistake about it, if that ever happened and I got drafted, I'd dodge it like hell. Yeah, it's illegal, but who cares? I sure don't. I'm not fighting for something I don't even believe in. The whole concept of the draft is barbaric.


...So yeah, honestly drafting is one of those things that kinda triggers me.
 

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The past's democrats are today's republicans and vice versa, especially when it comes to the areas that support them and what they stand for.
I imagine that the progressives 80-or-so years in the future will be championing something like incest rights while the conservatives will be defending the sanctity of same sex marriage while whining that the liberals are the "real homophobes." lmao

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Can you provide me an article confirming that they were supporters? I've checked other articles but couldn't find anything stating it.
Honestly, I'd think BLM would do more good if they actually started solving the current issues that are present in black communities.
They have been though.
https://news.vice.com/article/the-year-of-black-lives-matter-a-movement-with-mixed-success
I imagine that the progressives 80-or-so years in the future will be championing something like incest rights while the conservatives will be defending the sanctity of same sex marriage while whining that the liberals are the "real homophobes." lmao

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No, no, there's no wrong time to gush about anything. You never know, maybe it'll change the subject!
Alright. So here goes.

I enjoyed Conquest for what it was - it's an immensely fun game to play but with a weak story, as most would agree.
I played most of it on Casual this time, as the RNG is rather unfair here imo. Goddamn random enemy crits.

My favourite characters from my Conquest Run were Arthur (JUSTICE!), Beruka, Keaton and Silas (yes, I sorta identify with his goody-two-shoes nature and blind optimism).

I really enjoyed the maps in Conquest. Though I ended up routing most enemies either way, as I needed to grind.
There's even a map that is a callback to FE7. That was nice.

Velouria and Keaton were immensely helpful during the later parts of the game due to their ability to tank hits and deal damage like a boss. Elise too. (rip Shura, your boots didn't go in vain.)

Now, on to the story. I don't know if the story writer intended it that way, but imo it very much succeeded in showing war as senseless and messy. Like, this is the bleakest story in any Fire Emblem game to date, perhaps only barring Sacred Stones. Where it lacked was the reasoning for the war, but looking at how real wars have been fought for the silliest of reasons, I guess I can give it a pass. Doesn't make a gripping story though.

So, again, were the 50 hours I put into it worth it? Without a doubt, YES.

 

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The whole concept of the draft is barbaric.
Drafts aren't fun, but labeling it as barbaric is naive.

It's mostly done out of necessity to keep the country running in war time. You need soldiers to fight after all. Drafts have kept countries afloat many times.

I dunno, I don't like it either, but calling it barbaric just seems ill informed to me.

It's more of a necessary evil.
 

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I imagine that the progressives 80-or-so years in the future will be championing something like incest rights while the conservatives will be defending the sanctity of same sex marriage while whining that the liberals are the "real homophobes." lmao

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I imagine that the progressives 80-or-so years in the future will be championing something like incest rights while the conservatives will be defending the sanctity of same sex marriage while whining that the liberals are the "real homophobes." lmao

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As a conservative Christian.

Dude what the actual ****?

I'm insulted by this.
 

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You're not seriously comparing homosexuality to incest, right?
What gave you that impression? Because I put two forms of marriage diversity in the same paragraph or sentence?
Even so, people compare same sex marriage to interracial marriage all the time and nobody has has a problem with that.

If you are offended by someone putting same sex marriage and incest in the same sentence when the intention is not to insult, that seems to imply that you find incest unequal or inferior to same sex relationships and are insulted by having them "compared", which says more about your own intolerance than that of the person who made the "comparison" in the first place.

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Drafts aren't fun, but labeling it as barbaric is naive.

It's mostly done out of necessity to keep the country running in war time. You need soldiers to fight after all. Drafts have kept countries afloat many times.

I dunno, I don't like it either, but calling it barbaric just seems ill informed to me.

It's more of a necessary evil.
I'd argue ripping people who often aren't fit for combat away from their friends and family to fight for a cause they may not believe in, and not giving them a say, is barbaric.

The way I see it is this. If the armed forces can't get people to volunteer, they're doing a **** job of marketing themselves. No need to get some random guy from marketing or a bookish linguist in some museum blown up against their will.
 
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Can you provide me an article confirming that they were supporters? I've checked other articles but couldn't find anything stating it.
Honestly, I'd think BLM would do more good if they actually started solving the current issues that are present in black communities.
There's no connection to the group, as we know, so you're right there, I didn't know that. Thank you for the correction.

But what they say in the video is common rhetoric done by BLM(Which is why I think they got the name) and people that do support BLM have defended what they did. Which is what makes me dislike BLM more so is that many(not all, but many, again, BLM is more so many causes concerning black people rather than an actual group and everyone takes that to a different level) support what those people did, rather than a few people did something really bad(if they even supported BLM, but I mean, is it that likely that they didn't at least by what the group tends to say?), I wouldn't hold that against the following if much of the following didn't defend what they did.

I think people refer to it as "BLM" the same way people would say that white racists are alt right. Because the alt right isn't one group of people either, it's many causes taken to different levels of intensity. Anyone can claim that they're "alt right" just as anyone can claim that they're "BLM". But the motivation is what makes other people claim that they are.
 
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I'd argue ripping people who often aren't fit for combat away from their friends and family to fight for a cause they may not believe in, and not giving them a say, is barbaric.
What if it is necessary for the safety of the people?

You misunderstand me Opo. I don't like the draft much, but it is necessary in many regards.

I just hope we never have to use it again.
 

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There is a 1,2 Switch game where you have to feel the HD rumble and guess how many balls are in a box, and apparently it actually feels like there are a number of balls in said box with it.

That's kind of impressive
 

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There is a 1,2 Switch game where you have to feel the HD rumble and guess how many balls are in a box, and apparently it actually feels like there are a number of balls in said box with it.

That's kind of impressive
I wonder how they managed to do it.
 
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