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So Chapter 3 of the FEH Manga is out.
This would have been more relateable if it was about "Just one more set of summons", but this is rather perfect for this week considering Brave Ike is the Bonus Unit for this TT. I am already seeing Soren scolding me and Eliwood being worried for Roy and Lyn.
 
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Well, yeah, Juuni Taisen fell full down the rabbit hole(sorry), the fight at the end was incredibly well done even if it was CGI but Rabbit not getting a backstory is just bull****
He was the one character I was interested to know about since the start and they just write him off like this.
I'm just watching until the end so I can actually see how this all ends because I've already come this far
So Chapter 3 of the FEH Manga is out.

This would have been more relateable if it was about "Just one more set of summons", but this is rather perfect for this week considering Brave Ike is the Bonus Unit for this TT. I am already seeing Soren scolding me and Eliwood being worried for Roy and Lyn.
More like: IS softconfirming IkeXSoren as canon
 

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Why does Cap have an eye patch and why does Black Widow have blond hair?
 

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Why does Cap have an eye patch and why does Black Widow have blond hair?
Thor has an eyepatch - Black Widow has blond hair due to going into hiding at the end of Civil War, and Cap has a beard (which probably makes it hard to tell him apart from Thor), presumably for the same reason as Black Widow's change.
 
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Why does Cap have an eye patch and why does Black Widow have blond hair?
Cap wants to cosplay Big Boss really badly

Widow's hair is blonde because she's in hiding after helping Cap during Civil War. She's gone blonde in the comics under the name Yelena Belova which is probably what she's doing here.

 
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YEAAAAAH WE ACTUALLY SEE THE INFINITY GAUNTLET! EAT **** VISION
Speaking of Vision, it was a bit weird to see him in a more human form at the beginning.
That said, the most exciting part of the trailer still has to be at the end where we see Guardians of the Galaxy.
Visual downgrades don't matter because the bad designs will always be bad amiright
LOL- no...
And just what's with the "bad design" anyway? You are taking this "bad design" way out of portion.
 

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Speaking of Vision, it was a bit weird to see him in a more human form at the beginning.
That said, the most exciting part of the trailer still has to be at the end where we see Guardians of the Galaxy.

LOL- no...
And just what's with the "bad design" anyway? You are taking this "bad design" way out of portion.
Why did you post this twice, once on the last page and once here?
 

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LOL- no...
And just what's with the "bad design" anyway? You are taking this "bad design" way out of portion.
Rex looks more Nomura than a design that was ACTUALLY made by Nomura. That's pretty bad. Pyra's skimpy clothes and short shorts are sexual but absolutely unnecessary. The wolf thingy they showed yesterday is absolutely godawful, especially because the game's jiggle physics are so bad it looks like every female character js going to suffer pain if they even remotely move
 

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Why did you post this twice, once on the last page and once here?
I did not post twice(sort of), I moved it to here for... Reasons...

Hope this doesn't count as a spam...
Rex looks more Nomura than a design that was ACTUALLY made by Nomura. That's pretty bad. Pyra's skimpy clothes and short shorts are sexual but absolutely unnecessary.
Reasonable argument but I think those should be regarded as just a personal opinion. Just an FYI that the main characters are designed by Saitou. You opinion on Rex looking more Nomura is a bit confusing in my opinion... I also don't know how does this immediately means bad... Rex design isn't that cool sure, but not bad. That said, it's your opinion and I respect that. And when it comes to your opinion on Pyra's skimpy outfit, it's almost like I am hearing a broken record that is kept being mentioned a lot of times, and it is a bit odd saying it isn't necessary... When in a fantasy JRPGs unnecessary sexualized outfits are literally a norm... And again... You are complaining about this... In a T rated game... It will be fine if you also complain other JRPGs sexualized outfits like Camilla's from Fire Emblem. Otherwise I personally think that it would be a double standard (Ex:In Fire Emblem, Tales of, Nights of Azure, those sexualized designs are OK, in Xenoblade not OK.) , and I don't like that.
The wolf thingy they showed yesterday is absolutely godawful, especially because the game's jiggle physics are so bad it looks like every female character js going to suffer pain if they even remotely move
That Blade's name is Tsuki and she is a bunny...
There was another blade design by the artist of Code Geass and she also had that jiggle physics...
Again, I do feel those jiggle physic are a bit ridiculous too, but saying it is bad... I don't know. I mean Mario's nose in Odyssey were also a awkward as well in some Screenshots.
Aa for you saying female character will suffer pain due to those jiggle physics... Since I am a dude I can not understand that but I do see your point. That said, my advice is, this is just a video game and we should probably focus on criticizing its gameplay and plot foremost and then complain about the designs later.
 
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I did not post twice(sort of), I moved it to here for... Reasons...

Hope this doesn't count as a spam...

Reasonable argument but I think those should be regarded as just a personal opinion. Just an FYI that the main characters are designed by Saitou. You opinion on Rex looking more Nomura is a bit confusing in my opinion... I also don't know how does this immediately means bad... Rex design isn't that cool sure, but not bad. That said, it's your opinion and I respect that. And when it comes to your opinion on Pyra's skimpy outfit, it's almost like I am hearing a broken record that is kept being mentioned a lot of times, and it is a bit odd saying it isn't necessary... When in a fantasy JRPGs unnecessary sexualized outfits are literally a norm... And again... You are complaining about this... In a T rated game... It will be fine if you also complain other JRPGs sexualized outfits like Camilla's from Fire Emblem. Otherwise I personally think that it would be a double standard (Ex:In Fire Emblem, Tales of, Nights of Azure, those sexualized designs are OK, in Xenoblade not OK.) , and I don't like that.

That Blade's name is Tsuki and she is a bunny...
There was another blade design by the artist of Code Geass and she also had that jiggle physics...
Again, I do feel those jiggle physic are a bit ridiculous too, but saying it is bad... I don't know. I mean Mario's nose in Odyssey were also a awkward as well in some Screenshots.
Aa for you saying female character will suffer pain due to those jiggle physics... Since I am a dude I can not understand that but I do see your point. That said, my advice is, this is just a video game and we should probably focus on criticizing its gameplay and plot foremost and then complain about the designs later.
Nomura's criticized for over designed characters by for example having loads of unnecessary buckles and belts, Rex is an overdesigned mess, and I feel the majority agrees with me here.
Just because hyper sexualized outfits are the norm doesn't mean I have to like it. Especially as again, the jiggle physics make it so blatant, and as someone who suffers A Cup Angst, it's disheartening to see. Also, you're claiming I'm having a double standard yet I never defended hyper sexualid outfits anywhere else. Camilla is so exposed she'd realistically die on the battlefield day one, and Kill la Kill, an anime I've watched 3 times, also doesn't get a free pass.
Jiggle physics for the nose is more ok I feel due to Mario's overall cartoony nature, and noses aren't really seen as sexual either.
Breasts have nerves and have weight, I don't have breasts myself (yet) but the weight can be a problem for your back
Designs are an incredibly important part of visual media, including comics, animation and video games. It's what you'll be looking at. I dropped Madoka Majika and Kikaider: The Animation because I couldn't stand their artstyles, people don't like watching ARMS because it's very boring for spectators, comics with Liefeld's 'art' get criticized because it just looks awful, etc.
 

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Nomura's criticized for over designed characters by for example having loads of unnecessary buckles and belts, Rex is an overdesigned mess, and I feel the majority agrees with me here.
Okay, I have no problems with you having a different opinion or even an opinion that in the long run doesn't really matter, but saying something like "everyone agrees with me" or "the majority agrees with me" really does not help any position you're trying to stand. It just sounds very ignorant.
Especially when time and time again, "majority" or "minority" is a very loose term when it comes to the internet. Just because there are a bunch of people yelling, it does not make them a 'majority'. And just because there are a bunch of people being quiet, it doesn't make them a 'minority'.
 

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Okay, I have no problems with you having a different opinion or even an opinion that in the long run doesn't really matter, but saying something like "everyone agrees with me" or "the majority agrees with me" really does not help any position you're trying to stand. It just sounds very ignorant.
Especially when time and time again, "majority" or "minority" is a very loose term when it comes to the internet. Just because there are a bunch of people yelling, it does not make them a 'majority'. And just because there are a bunch of people being quiet, it doesn't make them a 'minority'.
Everywhere you go, you see people calling it a bad design, and while you're right, this is Xenoblade, and in this installment customized outfits seemingly aren't a thing anymore meaning we're stuck with that design, making people who'd think "Oh well I can get something different" suddenly like the outfit less
 

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Nomura's criticized for over designed characters by for example having loads of unnecessary buckles and belts, Rex is an overdesigned mess, and I feel the majority agrees with me here.
I wasn't that much fond with Nomura's artwork anyway, but I aware Nomura has also been regarded as one of the most memorable artist due to his designs for the Kingdom Hearts series. And I aware those criticisms do exist, but in my opinion those criticisms are just nitpicks. And I don't know if the majority agrees with you here but I know that a lot of people were excited when they found out Nomura is going to design some characters in XC2.

Just because hyper sexualized outfits are the norm doesn't mean I have to like it. Especially as again, the jiggle physics make it so blatant, and as someone who suffers A Cup Angst, it's disheartening to see.
Exactly, everyone has their own opinions regarding this, however I just think this "sexualized outs" has been a debate for a long time in the video game community, so I guess it is a "Let's agree to disagree" situation...

Also, you're claiming I'm having a double standard yet I never defended hyper sexualid outfits anywhere else. Camilla is so exposed she'd realistically die on the battlefield day one, and Kill la Kill, an anime I've watched 3 times, also doesn't get a free pass.
I did not claim you having double standard, I just found how odd that Xenoblade seems to get more complaints regarding this. I was only giving an assumption... If you also think Camilla and Kill La Kills outfits are a no go that's totally fine.
Kill la Kill is still a pretty good anime though....

Jiggle physics for the nose is more ok I feel due to Mario's overall cartoony nature, and noses aren't really seen as sexual either.
Like I said I was never care much about jiggle physics but I can agree with you on that.

Breasts have nerves and have weight, I don't have breasts myself (yet) but the weight can be a problem for your back
I am a dude... so... as for someone who will never understand this you do have a point here...
Designs are an incredibly important part of visual media, including comics, animation and video games. It's what you'll be looking at. I dropped Madoka Majika and Kikaider: The Animation because I couldn't stand their artstyles, people don't like watching ARMS because it's very boring for spectators, comics with Liefeld's 'art' get criticized because it just looks awful, etc.
I agree, but then again when it comes to video games if gameplay isn't good or fun, then why bother? The designs has to be at least decent, and XC2 is pretty good at least for me. As for others who shy away from this game just for the sake of design I personally understand but is still a pity reason in my opinion. Not to mention the game's aesthetics.
Everywhere you go, you see people calling it a bad design, and while you're right, this is Xenoblade, and in this installment customized outfits seemingly aren't a thing anymore meaning we're stuck with that design, making people who'd think "Oh well I can get something different" suddenly like the outfit less
Yep, the new game not having customized outfits is what I am giving a flag at, it isn't the matter of design but I can't believe they actually ditch out this option...

Edit: I saw there are gameplay of XC2 and it is not just hands on but Let's Plays. So beware for spoilers....
 
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There was a problem fetching the tweet

There's also one for the lame Hand guy

 

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I wasn't that much fond with Nomura's artwork anyway, but I aware Nomura has also been regarded as one of the most memorable artist due to his designs for the Kingdom Hearts series. And I aware those criticisms do exist, but in my opinion those criticisms are just nitpicks. And I don't know if the majority agrees with you here but I know that a lot of people were excited when they found out Nomura is going to design some characters in XC2.



Kill la Kill is still a pretty good anime though....

I agree, but then again when it comes to video games if gameplay isn't good or fun, then why bother? The designs has to be at least decent, and XC2 is pretty good at least for me. As for others who shy away from this game just for the sake of design I personally understand but is still a pity reason in my opinion. Not to mention the game's aesthetics.
Nomura is praised for making memorable designs period but since... FFX I wanna say? He's gotten more and more details in there, not like Kentaro Miura details in which everything is highly detailed but with little extra things that are stupid

Damn straight it is, wouldn't watch it 3 times for nothing

While that's true, that's only a case for the final product and doesn't apply to visual novels like Danganronpa and Ace Attorney. Plus, there's a reason there are cases of bad games having trailers that look prettier than the actual game, they KNOW visuals are important
 

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Everywhere you go, you see people calling it a bad design, and while you're right, this is Xenoblade, and in this installment customized outfits seemingly aren't a thing anymore meaning we're stuck with that design, making people who'd think "Oh well I can get something different" suddenly like the outfit less
Of course there are other people who say it's a bad design, but as I said, finding 5 or 10 people who don't like it does not make it a 'majority'. Just because you see a bunch of people yelling, it does not mean "the majority" is complaining.

And you can't say that because Xenoblade is a "niche" series and thus there aren't as many people in the fanbase, thus making the "majority" a bit more easier to reach in terms of numbers, but fanbase means nothing when you don't know anything about the people complaining.
You don't know which ones are part of the fanbase, which ones who want or don't want the game and which ones aren't part of the fanbase and are complaining for the sake of complaining. You could have 1 Million people complaining about the game and only 1/4 could be actually complaining for decent reasons/concerns/etc while the other 3/4 don't know what's what and are complaining just because.

Anyway, it does suck that there's no customizable armor, but the designs don't deter me enough to avoid it. I won't be getting Xenoblade 2 at launch(mostly because i'm getting some other games first), but I do plan on getting it at some point as I enjoyed Xenoblade and Xenoblade X.
 

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Reportedly, Xenoblade 2 lasts around 5 hours undocked. A surprise after seeing how Odyssey and BotW last barely 3 hours.

That being said, the visuals take a bigger hit than the former two.
There was a problem fetching the tweet
The visuals took the first hit when they decided to create ugly ass characters
 

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This is 100% rumor so proceed with caution
There was a problem fetching the tweet
I asked him for a source but he wished his source to be anonymous.

However, Source Gaming retweeted so this gives me a little hope.

If true, that SoulCalibur thing looks promising.
Obviously this means Smash Bros is going to be announced...says everyone ever on Twitter.

And the fact that it's on Dec 15 makes me cringe on the inside. That day brings back bad memories. For more than just one reason.
 

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Guys, you're not going to believe this.


There's now been the closest thing to a real life Dankey Kang.
 

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December 15th, eh?
That's the last day of my semester.
I'll probably be en-route to home that day, so unless I get good reception, I'll probably miss it.
 
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It's necessary to obtain a complete Breakfast

You need to buy the Milk, fruit, and toast DLC to finish the set though.
Back in my day, they'd sell the full breakfast all together, none of this DLC bull****.
They were also harder to digest, nothing like the ones we have these days where it can be digested by just standing still, we worked hard to get those nutrients.
Kill la Kill, an anime I've watched 3 times, also doesn't get a free pass.
KlK's whole thing is how ridiculous the outfits are and actually calls attention to them.
Having the same kind of fanservice designs in another story where they're treated as if they don't exist and expects the viewers to treat it seriously is another thing, so yeah, KlK gets a free pass on that note.
There's also one for the lame Hand guy
Ok first of all how dare you
 

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So Chapter 3 of the FEH Manga is out.

This would have been more relateable if it was about "Just one more set of summons", but this is rather perfect for this week considering Brave Ike is the Bonus Unit for this TT. I am already seeing Soren scolding me and Eliwood being worried for Roy and Lyn.
Me trying to actually summon ike.
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This is frickin' adorable.
https://twitter.com/LazzleDazzler/status/935413139335553024
The only thing that would've made it better and funnier is if Chrom and S.Chrom were there.

Also, Salem is out on the JP Grand Order and....

Duna nuna nuna nuna nuna nuna nuna nuna Lovecraft! Lovecraft!
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Either way, Lovecraft's work is confirmed for Salem, as there is also a character named Lavinia, whom anybody who's a fan of Lovecraft or read Dunwich Horror will know very well who she is. Or at least, know her unconfirmed, but hinted last name Whateley.
 
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Acknowledging a weird element of your story, in your story doesn't negate the element.
I never said it negates it though, all I said is that KlK shouldn't be criticised for the character designs when it's a central part of the show
 

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KlK's whole thing is how ridiculous the outfits are and actually calls attention to them.
Having the same kind of fanservice designs in another story where they're treated as if they don't exist and expects the viewers to treat it seriously is another thing, so yeah, KlK gets a free pass on that note.


Ok first of all how dare you
No, the whole thing early on is "Don't judge a book by it's cover" alongside a puberty theme, but the good writing, music and animation made people outright forget they're watching a show about a near naked chick
 

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KlK's whole thing is how ridiculous the outfits are and actually calls attention to them.
Having the same kind of fanservice designs in another story where they're treated as if they don't exist and expects the viewers to treat it seriously is another thing, so yeah, KlK gets a free pass on that note.
They don't get a free pass. A **** design is a **** design regardless of the nature of the series.

Ok first of all how dare you
Not my fault he's essentially just


I never said it negates it though, all I said is that KlK shouldn't be criticised for the character designs when it's a central part of the show
It absolutely should be criticized for the crap designs. Being a central part of the show doesn't make them free of criticism.

 

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Unless I’m forgetting someone there’s really only 4 more potential female characters that could be added to FighterZ.
 
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No, the whole thing early on is "Don't judge a book by it's cover" alongside a puberty theme, but the good writing, music and animation made people outright forget they're watching a show about a near naked chick
One of the main thematics is how people shouldn't be ashamed and wear what they want, it doesn't make you forget about the skimpy clothing but it "normalizes" it in the context of the show by getting you used to it over time
Not my fault he's essentially just
****ing anime only watchers can't recognize the greatness of Handman smh
It absolutely should be criticized for the crap designs. Being a central part of the show doesn't make them free of criticism.
If you want to argue about the quality of the designs, then that's: a) subjective; and b) not my point at all.
Skimpy clothing doesn't make bad design and you shouldn't criticize a show for utilising it when the whole narrative requires it.
 

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****ing anime only watchers can't recognize the greatness of Handman smh
Nah he's still **** later on.

If you want to argue about the quality of the designs, then that's: a) subjective; and b) not my point at all.
Skimpy clothing doesn't make bad design and you shouldn't criticize a show for utilising it when the whole narrative requires it.
Punisher requires a very pro-gun attitude. It's not exempt from being criticized for having a pro-gun attitude just like KLK isn't exempt from being criticized for having sexualised designs, especially when Ryuko is under 18.

 
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Nah he's still **** later on.
I thought Gwen had ****taste but I think you surpassed her
Punisher requires a very pro-gun attitude. It's not exempt from being criticized for having a pro-gun attitude just like KLK isn't exempt from being criticized for having sexualised designs, especially when Ryuko is under 18.
KlK isn't saying "stupid fanservice is ok" or advocating for it, it's parodying it.
 
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