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[Ivander]

The only thing I did to """"""defile"""""" the game was post an image I saw on reddit and make a joke about the poor graphics design practices of the FE Warriors poster and how it's inadvertently a result of the game's lacking roster. I did not have to try too hard for that one, I can tell you that.

Also, really like the healthy mindset of "expressing criticism/dissatisfaction = defiling". Never change, NintenZone. Never change.

Except I did not say you were defiling something. In any way. The point I was trying to make was "Both sides have problems." "Why are people trying so hard to defend something? Why are people trying so hard to defile something?" Both sides are trying to give reasons why for either and both sides are trying to end it, yet both sides are still incited to keep continuing it even after being told the reason.
And mostly because "I'm right and you're wrong." Neither side wants to be wrong and as such, they keep going when in most cases, there isn't anything to be right or wrong about. That's the problem with opinions in general. There are right and wrong opinions, but when it comes to an opinion that isn't right or wrong in the general sense, trying to bring right and wrong to it only creates problems.

"Why are people defending/defiling it?" is a question, but the problem with using it is that:
1: It's often pointless to ask since quite often, the answer is already clear. Mostly because people like/hate something or we asked why earlier and they gave their answer.
2: It's often used after the defending/defiling has been explained.
3: By the time it is used and everybody is already tensed up, "Why are people defending/defiling it?" gives off a very superior tension. Rather than a question, it's being used more like, "Why do you people think you're right when you are clearly wrong?"

I am not saying 'you' are using it like that, but too often is it used to incite rather than to ask a question, even if the person's intention isn't to incite. It is one of those questions that too often is used not for the question, but to bring unnecessary incitement and make things worse.

Once again, I'm not trying to twist what you say and saying you are doing "this". I'm just trying to say that when Right and Wrong start getting in the way of reason and opinion, sometimes what we think we are doing might actually not be any different from the person we're arguing with. Remember that old phrase?

Spoiler

Basically, both of us are intelligent people trying to give our reasons for why we think the game is cool/uncool, we have given them, there's nothing beneficial or negative for being either right or wrong, there's nothing beneficial for continuing. Now, hug?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's hard to go back to any other RPG when you play Bravely Default

There is so much customization to gameplay

How hard do you want it? How fast do you want it?

I know some RPG's it'd be better if you could just zip through combat

I can friggin' control how many encounters I want to run into

Do I want to grind? Yes? No? I can turn off encounters.

I can turn off EXP if I want to, which would have been great in FF3

 

[ChikoLad]

Except I did not say you were defiling something. In any way. The point I was trying to make was "Both sides have problems." "Why are people trying so hard to defend something? Why are people trying so hard to defile something?" Both sides are trying to give reasons why for either and both sides are trying to end it, yet both sides are still incited to keep continuing it even after being told the reason.
And mostly because "I'm right and you're wrong." Neither side wants to be wrong and as such, they keep going when in most cases, there isn't anything to be right or wrong about. That's the problem with opinions in general. There are right and wrong opinions, but when it comes to an opinion that isn't right or wrong in the general sense, trying to bring right and wrong to it only creates problems.

"Why are people defending/defiling it?" is a question, but the problem with using it is that:
1: It's often pointless to ask since quite often, the answer is already clear. Mostly because people like/hate something or we asked why earlier and they gave their answer.
2: It's often used after the defending/defiling has been explained.
3: By the time it is used and everybody is already tensed up, "Why are people defending/defiling it?" gives off a very superior tension. Rather than a question, it's being used more like, "Why do you people think you're right when you are clearly wrong?"

I am not saying 'you' are using it like that, but too often is it used to incite rather than to ask a question, even if the person's intention isn't to incite. It is one of those questions that too often is used not for the question, but to bring unnecessary incitement and make things worse.

Once again, I'm not trying to twist what you say and saying you are doing "this". I'm just trying to say that when Right and Wrong start getting in the way of reason and opinion, sometimes what we think we are doing might actually not be any different from the person we're arguing with. Remember that old phrase?

Spoiler

Basically, both of us are intelligent people trying to give our reasons for why we think the game is cool/uncool, we have given them, there's nothing beneficial or negative for being either right or wrong, there's nothing beneficial for continuing. Now, hug?

You did not say I was defiling something, the other person I quoted did. I could have formatted that post a little differently.

Not really gonna bother with the rest of this because I don't think there is any need to, and I think you're mixing up some of what I said and what I meant by it. Also, I know how opinions work, I do not need to be told.

 

[Ivander]

You did not say I was defiling something, the other person I quoted did. I could have formatted that post a little differently.

Not really gonna bother with the rest of this because I don't think there is any need to, and I think you're mixing up some of what I said and what I meant by it. Also, I know how opinions work, I do not need to be told.

Probably am. But at the same time, although I know what I want to say, I can't find the right words to use when I want them. I'm not the most sociable person and trying to find what to say is not my strongest fort. So I probably mixed you up on what I was trying to point out as much as I was.
And I don't think the other person was saying you were. I think what he said was being rhetorical to your question, as I tried to point out is not exactly the best question to ask.

 

[Aurane]

Also, I know how opinions work, I do not need to be told.

This is Smashboards. Nobody here knows how opinions work. :\/

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Oh I'm perfectly calm. So calm I'm about to go to bed, in fact. :V

This isn't reflective of anything in the FE fanbase though. This exact same thing comes up in other fandoms all of the time, in fact it's quite common among Nintendo circles for the subject of icons to come up. Seems especially important a criteria for characters to get into things. I've had to make a very similar post among Mario circles too.

In other news, Niles is so much of a perv that Robin had to turn into Leo to tell him to calm down.

https://twitter.com/WhiteTheVII/status/921480697046552576

When you said "turn to leo" I missed the "Into" i thought you meant turn over to Leo.

That was great

 

[Aurane]

Oh by the way I see my prank title has expired. Someone wanna be a pal and prank me again, please?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Oh by the way I see my prank title has expired. Someone wanna be a pal and prank me again, please?

I would, but I don't wanna.

 

[Aurane]

I would, but I don't wanna.

Oh man. Deja Vu right here. ;(

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

This is Smashboards. Nobody here knows how opinions work. :\/

I know exactly how opinions work. They're either bad or wrong.

 

[Kurri ★]

- All developers should strive to make their games as accessible as possible. Not all games need to be accessible, but there are so many games that could be and aren't. Having multiple options does not in anyway hinder what ever vision the game devs had (which the vision is thrown out the window once it's in the wild).

- Micro-transactions; lootboxes in particular; aren't inherently bad. Stop stirring **** just because the Super Kawaii Assault Rifle skin costs $1.99. However, they can, and should be better executed and with regards to lootboxes have regulations set in place; they are, after all, a form of gambling. One easy step would be to list the drop rate for every item and possibly display how many people of received that item.

- The game industry needs some sort of major changes. Again, Microtransactions aren't bad, but with how much money they make for the industry (tripling it's value), the fact that game devs still work through poor conditions is appalling. I've heard the idea of unions being passed around and that definitely seems like a good step. This doesn't even get into issues such as sexism, racism and a general lack of diversity.

- A Hat in Time looks amazing, but hearing about the devs behind it makes me uncomfortable, which is a shame cause I feel I'd love it.

- Sonic Forces is very disappointing to be honest. I'm happy that there are people who are still super excited for it, but I'm not one of them. I do hope my disappointment is proven wrong and that the game does come out amazing. The story actually does seem interesting in a way that I haven't seen since Sonic Unleashed.

- Dragonball FighterZ looks more and more amazing with each bit of news.

- So does Blazblue Cross Tag Battle

- I get to pump Klan members full of lead in Wolfenstein. I don't care if Super Mario Odyssey is the second coming of Christ, Wolfenstein could be the ****tiest game ever, but all because of that moment, it is my game of the year.

- Speaking of Super Mario Odyssey, that game looks majestic.

- Single Player games aren't going to die, even in the AAA space. Maybe there'll be a lull, but people have been saying single player linear games are dead for years, over a decade even, they're still here. In the meantime just step away from the AAA space and support some indies or AA games, there's always something fun to play.

- I'm super happy that the Switch added a record function, that's like real neat.

- The Battlefront II beta was awesome, though being poor, I don't see myself buying the game anytime soon. I haven't even bought Battlefield 1, and I've been meaning to since that released.

- Being poor sucks

- Dysphoria sucks

- Depression sucks

- Trump sucks

Spoiler: I made this, I like it a lot

Alright, I think that's every major topic since I've last posted here. Hallo frens, I haven't been here in a while. How have we all been lately?

 

[Aurane]

I know exactly how opinions work. They're either bad or wrong.

So... Someone saying Snake should return in Smash 5 are bad and or wrong?

I'm sensing some major contradictions here.

 

[Kurri ★]

All opinions are bad unless they're my opinion

 

[Aurane]

All opinions are bad unless they're my opinion

Your opinion of saying all opinions are bad unless they're yours is bad. You should feel bad.

Also hello.

 

[Mythra]

All opinions are bad unless they're my opinion

In my opinion your opinions are good. However my opinion is bad, meaning your opinions are bad.

 

[Aurane]

The only opinions I agree with here are @crazya02's.

He's logical.

 

[Kurri ★]

In my opinion your opinions are good. However my opinion is bad, meaning your opinions are bad.

Nah, see, but here's the catch, positive opinions of me are always good, whereas negative ones are always wrong.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So... Someone saying Snake should return in Smash 5 are bad and or wrong?

I'm sensing some major contradictions here.

There are a few exceptions. Few.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

************ god damn **** **** I need money to buy games but I want 2 games with Sonic forces preordered and **** **** **** ****

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

In the end, I decided to skip getting FE Warriors... at least for now. Given that it's that time where assignments start to pile up, I'd rather spend my time working on them and playing through some games I haven't even finished/started at all. It's part of why I don't post much on the forums anymore - university takes priority. At the very least, I picked up the Chrom and Tiki amiibo I had on pre-order.

On the other hand, having pulled a free Celica when the Genealogy Banner started in Heroes, I started playing Fire Emblem Echoes, and boy have I been enjoying it. They took a game commonly perceived as the odd-one-out in the series, but with new presentation and giving the cast plenty of character and charm, this is looking to be a close contender to one of my favourite Fire Emblem games so far.

 

[Z25]

im sorry but i just had too, i mean come on its too perfect not to use that, also lucky finding a sableye

Thanks, but it's not mine, I just found the pic and thought it be worth sharing.

I only have Shuppet so far but I wasn't out long today. I'll probably catch everything at my campus on monday.

 

[Knight Dude]

So, has anyone been keeping up with the My Hero Academia comic books? Looks like the current arc is gonna reach it's climax.

 

[Delzethin]

- A Hat in Time looks amazing, but hearing about the devs behind it makes me uncomfortable, which is a shame cause I feel I'd love it.

Wait, what? I haven't heard this one. Is it anything damning?

 

[Bestmand902]

- Micro-transactions; lootboxes in particular; aren't inherently bad.

- A Hat in Time looks amazing, but hearing about the devs behind it makes me uncomfortable, which is a shame cause I feel I'd love it.

To that first one; Shadow Of More Dollars, 'nuff said.

Secondly...Please tell me they're not secretly a murder cult. Though non-jokingly, did they do something really damning?

 

[Deleted member]

I want to continue Conquest but I just can't bring myself to do that.
Should I save my units as Einherjar for skills and delete my save file to let go of my long held sins and just restart the game later? Because I find it hard to come back to games after long breaks.

 

[Deleted member]

All I wanted to say is that FE does have villains who are recognized and respected by the fanbase.
The two things everyone talks about Genealogy are Sigurd and Arvis, Lyon is always talked about as the best story-relevant character in SS and Camus and his successors are usually the most talked bosses(just look at Mustafa in FEA).
They may not be popular or recognizable as someone who's in the cover, but anyone who has played their games certainly remembers them.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wait, what? I haven't heard this one. Is it anything damning?

To that first one; Shadow Of More Dollars, 'nuff said.

Secondly...Please tell me they're not secretly a murder cult. Though non-jokingly, did they do something really damning?

The main dev was an asshole and doxxed someone. Apparently he's a better person but he never apologized about this, plus there's Jontron, they didn't cut him and I don't blame them, Yooka Laylee got dragged through the dirt for that and AHIT's devs were unproven, but they could at least say "We still disagree with him on that front" Plus, the twitter account acted rather bitter to IGN's review by pretending the only thing IGN didn't like was the voice acting despite more than that

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The main dev was an ******* and doxxed someone.

Why'd he dox someone?

The others aren't dealbreakers but this one's kind of important.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Why'd he dox someone?

The others aren't dealbreakers but this one's kind of important.

He just didn't like the guy as far as I know

Also this opinions talk. All my opinions suck unless other people like them

 

[Deleted member]

Oh, FEH has some new maps.
IS: "This will be a fun event to have players fight the devs' teams, learn about different strategies and adapt to them."
Me: "Oh boy, free orbs!"

 

[ChikoLad]

hey youtube suggestions

i believe that's the wrong kind of whale

 

[Ivander]

hey youtube suggestions

i believe that's the wrong kind of whale

I'm surprised it's Brave Ike and not Ayra.

 

[Bestmand902]

The main dev was an ******* and doxxed someone. Apparently he's a better person but he never apologized about this, plus there's Jontron, they didn't cut him and I don't blame them, Yooka Laylee got dragged through the dirt for that and AHIT's devs were unproven, but they could at least say "We still disagree with him on that front" Plus, the twitter account acted rather bitter to IGN's review by pretending the only thing IGN didn't like was the voice acting despite more than that

What the ****? ****, now I feel kinda bad for buying the game...

 

[Metal Shop X]

What the ****? ****, now I feel kinda bad for buying the game...

Heh, if you like the game but dislike the dev, you can still like the game for what it is. You can like someone work and still dislike/hate the person behind it. And A Hat In Time is a pretty good video game from everything I saw. So give the game a chance before saying you regret buying it.

 

[Aurane]

What the ****? ****, now I feel kinda bad for buying the game...

Were you playing it for the main dev or something? Lol

 

[ChikoLad]

ITT: disregarding the work of a team just because one or two people on it did some questionable things

A lot of people worked on AHiT, not just two people or something. It looks like a fantastic game that had a lot of love poured into it by the entire team. Disregarding that just because of one or two potential bad eggs is foolish.

Also a lot of the stories have questionable merit anyway. I find it awfully funny how the doxxing thing apparently happened years ago, but the victim only decided to say anything when the game released and was receiving critical praise.

Also the developers have no obligation to take a "stance" on JonTron. Not only has he arguably made up for things anyway (a matter of opinion of course - I'm fine with JonTron, but others won't be) and Destiny was a **** and far worse of an individual that nobody seems to talk about, but the JonTron thing is old news. There is absolutely no need for it to come up every single time he works on a project. That's not how the professional world works.

If, hypothetically speaking, well proven news came out tomorrow that Shigeru Miyamoto or Yoshiaki Koizumi had some kind of less than stellar political views or did some bad things to someone, would you abstain from buying Super Mario Odyssey? Would you throw your Nintendo Switch out? I doubt you would. In fact, there actually are multiple stories behind some less than noble things Shigeru Miyamoto has done over his storied history as a game developer. It's possible to dig up dirt on anyone, really.

Video games are supposed to be an escape from the often crappy reality we live in. Getting caught up in whatever drama happens behind the scenes of a game's development unless it's something gravely serious like a murder or sexual harassment, is kinda silly. Especially when it's anything to do with supposed political views. Views are just that - views. Often times, they don't result in any action. It's not a crime to have them.

If you want drama just go outside or something.

 

[Bestmand902]

Were you playing it for the main dev or something? Lol

LOL nah, I just feel really bad whenever I support something and the person behind it turns out to be a bad person, same reason I can't bring myself to support anything with Jackie Chan or Johnny Depp.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

This is the best review of an anime I have ever seen
"A cheesy B-movie in anime form that's arrived just in time for Halloween, heralded by buckets of crappy-looking blood and a Lostprophets-ass theme song."

 

[Aurane]

LOL nah, I just feel really bad whenever I support something and the person behind it turns out to be a bad person, same reason I can't bring myself to support anything with Jackie Chan or Johnny Depp.

Right, because **** everyone else who made the game. :T

 

[Bestmand902]

Right, because **** everyone else who made the game. :T

Hey now, hey now, don't you go putting words in my mouth.