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And they specifically said they were using Awakening characters so yes it's a good comparison.

yes and thoes characters have appread in heroes and gaius got the daggers treatment(mainly because awakening just lacked daggers entirely, nevermind the fact not gaius in fates used daggers meaning thats what they intended)
 

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Fire Emblem Warriors just continues to disappoint. But it's expected to disappoint at this point so it's...kinda not disappointing?

I'll get it cheap or something or maybe I'll get it for Christmas from my brother or something. Not shelling out €60 for this and more money for DLC, definitely not. Hyrule Warriors gave me much more value for my money.

I swear to god though, if Niles is still just a Takumi clone like Sakura and Anna, and he probably will be...hoo boy.

Minerva is a cool choice but they'll probably make her a Camilla clone too.

Blegh.
 

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This might not be relevant but I think you guys will at be in a treat for how FE music is going to be remixed in FE Warriors.

Warriors music are usually good. SW4, DW7 and WO3 soundtracks being great examples.
 
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This might not be relevant but I think you guys will at be in a treat for how FE music is going to be remixed in FE Warriors.

Warriors music are usually good. SW4, DW7 and WO3 soundtracks being great examples.
I listened to the FEW soundtrack.
The remixes are incredible but they're not enough for me to want this game.
 
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yes and thoes characters have appread in heroes and gaius got the daggers treatment(mainly because awakening just lacked daggers entirely, nevermind the fact not gaius in fates used daggers meaning thats what they intended)
Caeda is in Heroes too. Where she uses a sword, which she isn't using in Warriors.
Asugi =/= Gaius

 
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yes and thoes characters have appread in heroes and gaius got the daggers treatment(mainly because awakening just lacked daggers entirely, nevermind the fact not gaius in fates used daggers meaning thats what they intended)
Yes, because Heroes is what determines FE canon.

And lol Gaius isn't even in Fates, his clone doesn't count. And by that logic, Owain should have been a tome user because he uses a Tome in Fates meaning that's the way they intended

 

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This might not be relevant but I think you guys will at be in a treat for how FE music is going to be remixed in FE Warriors.

Warriors music are usually good. SW4, DW7 and WO3 soundtracks being great examples.
We've already heard some of the music since like, last month, due to it being included in FE Heroes for the Warriors maps.

It's good but it's not "buy the game" good. Doesn't match Hyrule Warriors quality either IMO.

And honestly, Road Taken did not need a remix. That song is already perfect.
 
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On one hand, I was right about Minerva getting in. On the other hand, dammit all why did they go for Linde over my boy Merric.

On the other other hand, Olivia is unexpected but a nice surprise, and given her being a dancer, her sword style should stand out from the rest.
 

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Okay, the "Broken-Armor Models" bit out of the way:

-Fates' character selection is disappointing. But it's more disappointing when 2 characters are technically already in and 1 is just the last remaining siblings. On the other hand, I might give it the benefit of the doubt of it makes Niles more different from Takumi and Sakura, as I heard Niles, Owain and Navarre are way too similar(in some cases, I heard they are clones) to Takumi & Ryoma respectively.
-Shadow Dragon's character is nice. Minerva and Linde are solid choices and I'm excited for Minerva. I'm wondering if Linde was chosen over Merric as Linde technically has Light Magic while Takumi sorta has the Wind Magic taken with Fujin Yumi. But who knows? Either way, once again, benefit of the doubt if it makes Navarre different from Ryoma/Lyn.
-Awakening has a nice surprise with Olivia. Tharja was expected. And benefit of doubt if Owain is different from Ryoma.

And last, I'm curious what the "Weapons" and Costumes are. Are the "Weapons" potentially going to be something like Hyrule Warriors? Might we see Chrom use a Spear? Or Lyn using a Bow? Also, while we know about the Bride costume for Lucina, what will the costumes from the DLC be? Will they be references to characters or their classes? Will they be characters? I mean, how would people feel if some of the costumes are characters?

But with that out of the way, I still have several questions regarding "Broken-Armor Models."
 
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On one hand, I was right about Minerva getting in. On the other hand, dammit all why did they go for Linde over my boy Merric.

On the other other hand, Olivia is unexpected but a nice surprise, and given her being a dancer, her sword style should stand out from the rest.
Pretty much my reaction overall to the Shadow Dragon selection.

. . .

From here on out I'm guessing I should expect nothing but constant complaining about every game I buy this year.

Crappy friends thong stupid pants new games bad why no old games too much old games anime bad level design rock models localization artistic vision bad writing too many characters not enough characters

Yaaaaaay. . .
 

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Okay, the "Broken-Armor Models" bit out of the way:

-Fates' character selection is disappointing. But it's more disappointing when 2 characters are technically already in and 1 is just the last remaining siblings. On the other hand, I might give it the benefit of the doubt of it makes Niles more different from Takumi and Sakura, as I heard Niles, Owain and Navarre are way too similar(in some cases, I heard they are clones) to Takumi & Ryoma respectively.
-Shadow Dragon's character is nice. Minerva and Linde are solid choices and I'm excited for Minerva. I'm wondering if Linde was chosen over Merric as Linde technically has Light Magic while Takumi sorta has the Wind Magic taken with Fujin Yumi. But who knows?
-Awakening has a nice surprise with Olivia. Tharja was expected.

And last, I'm curious what the "Weapons" and Costumes are. Are the "Weapons" potentially going to be something like Hyrule Warriors? Might we see Chrom use a Spear? Or Lyn using a Bow? Also, while we know about the Bride costume for Lucina, what will the costumes from the DLC be? Will they be references to characters or their classes? Will they be characters? I mean, how would people feel if some of the costumes are characters?

But with that out of the way, I still have several questions regarding "Broken-Armor Models."
Navarre is a Lyn clone.
Niles is a Takumi clone (and Sakura and Anna already were).
Owain is a Ryoma clone.

Broken-Armour models is probably exactly like it says on the tin, battle damage models similar to the ones you see after taking a heavy hit in Fates, for example, or even like the damage artwork in Heroes.
 

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Yes, because Heroes is what determines FE canon.

And lol Gaius isn't even in Fates, his clone doesn't count. And by that logic, Owain should have been a tome user because he uses a Tome in Fates meaning that's the way they intended

what do you mean owain wasnt in fates...did you mean odin? i can understand how youd be confused

a lot of people get confused about this, not to mention camus zeke and sirius, and danved and devdan


easy mistakes to make dont feel too bad about them
 
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My problem with the game is that not only are they locking content that should've been in the base game behind a pay wall, but the DLC character selection itself is lackluster.
I only care about one character in the Awakening pack and 2 characters in the Fates pack (Which is ironic considering Awakening has more characters I care about then Fates) and ALL 3 OF THEM SHOULD'VE BEEN IN THE BASE GAME. Doesn't help that 2 of them are clones.
I can't comment on the Shadow Dragon DLC though, since I haven't played the game yet.
 

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Seriously though holy ****.
I have to say the anime is doing a good job with Dusk wolf, it's been pretty likeable so far.

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http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/
Fire Emblem Fates
– New Playable Characters

Azura
Niles
Oboro
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

– New Playable Characters

Navarre
Minerva
Linde
Fire Emblem Awakening

– New Playable Characters

Owain
Tharja
Olivia

(seriously why were you expecting gaius when daggers werent a weapon class?)
On the one hand I'm really happy Minerva and Linde are there since I've been wanting the former since the three game focus was announced and I liked Linde from what we got of her in SD. However, I'm really irritated that the NPC group is paid DLC since all signs point to them being close to being finished. Unless they're released with some changes to make them more unique it's very questionable that they decided to hold them off like that.
 
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what do you mean owain wasnt in fates...did you mean odin? i can understand how youd be confused

a lot of people get confused about this, not to mention camus zeke and sirius, and danved and devdan


easy mistakes to make dont feel too bad about them
So Asugi = Gaius but Owain =/= Odin?
This is a nice logic.
 

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what do you mean owain wasnt in fates...did you mean odin? i can understand how youd be confused

a lot of people get confused about this, not to mention camus zeke and sirius, and danved and devdan


easy mistakes to make dont feel too bad about them
Protip: don't act like a smarmy ass when yesterday you didn't even know one of the biggest lore details of the series: the naming scheme of the Fire Emblem itself.
 

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Protip: don't act like a smarmy *** when yesterday you didn't even know one of the biggest lore details of the series: the naming scheme of the Fire Emblem itself.
the joke is that all the examples i listed are the same characters

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man im admiting im wrong with a joke and its flying over EVERYONES head
 
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http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/
Fire Emblem Fates
– New Playable Characters

Azura
Niles
Oboro
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

– New Playable Characters

Navarre
Minerva
Linde
Fire Emblem Awakening

– New Playable Characters

Owain
Tharja
Olivia

(seriously why were you expecting gaius when daggers werent a weapon class?)
Mother ****ing NILES

K im buying the game
 

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Am cool with Minerva & Linde (I always choose her over Merric). Not a fan, but I'm still surprised Azura wasn't on the base roster. Meh for everyone else.

Not unlike TMS & Fates, my overall thoughts are that it's underwhelming, but it still looks like a good game that I'll pick up someday. Complaining about the roster ultimately feels one-note in that regard. For now I'd rather invest in completing my CIB collection or framing my Nintendo Dream posters.
 
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On one hand, I was right about Minerva getting in. On the other hand, dammit all why did they go for Linde over my boy Merric.

On the other other hand, Olivia is unexpected but a nice surprise, and given her being a dancer, her sword style should stand out from the rest.
Because Merric isn't waifu material
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man im admiting im wrong with a joke and its flying over EVERYONES head
It's not flying over anyone's head, we just don't find it funny

 

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Because Merric isn't waifu material

It's not flying over anyone's head, we just don't find it funny

pretty sure it flew over lumpys head given their post, but what do i know? i dont even understand the nameing convention of the fire emblem
 

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Actual picture of Koei Tecmo right now

There's no way anyone can defend this game's awful decisions now.
This is outright cutting content to make them paid DLC later
I'm more interested to their other upcoming Switch games than FE warriors right now...

And my Amazon preorder for DOOM has finally updated the release date, but...

For some reason it's gonna take 4 days after the release date to get.
 
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pretty sure it flew over lumpys head given their post, but what do i know? i dont even understand the nameing convention of the fire emblem
*Lampy
And the reason it flew over my head was because believe it or not, I'm new to Fire Emblem, so no wonder I wouldn't get references to older games.
 

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Man, today has gotta be an awful day for IntSystem's PR team.

First the Ayra situation in Heroes, now FE Warriors locking basically finished content that also happens to be clone characters behind a paywall and just overall having a super underwhelming roster even after DLC (yaaaaay, Azura...).

What's next, they announce FE Switch is a Fates sequel? :V
 
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The character choices are extremely. . .inoffensive. The 3 clones probably should have been free, and Azura and Tharja probably should have been in the base game, but ehh. Pretty boring choices overall I guess, since 7 of them were pretty much guarantees. Also RIP "mostly those games" lol.

Season pass is cheap, and a lot of other content will come with it so im not that bothered
the joke is that all the examples i listed are the same characters

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man im admiting im wrong with a joke and its flying over EVERYONES head
You see when most people admit they're wrong, they don't sarcastically imply someone else is wrong. They just own up to it.
 

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And the reason it flew over my head was because believe it or not, I'm new to Fire Emblem, so no wonder I wouldn't get references to older games.
well you know now,
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anyways im pretty much done with fire emblem till the switch game gets its first trailer(because im really underwhlemed by the dlc in warriors to say the least), smash adds a new rep, or FE heroes does a thing, so that ends this discussion between me and shishoe
 

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Characters I care about:
Tiki
Anna
Caeda
Celica
Lissa
Cordelia
Linde
Minerva
Owain
(edit: I guess :4corrinf: too)

Fates was (edit: still) a mistake.
 
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The character choices are extremely. . .inoffensive. The 3 clones probably should have been free, and Azura and Tharja probably should have been in the base game, but ehh. Pretty boring choices overall I guess, since 7 of them were pretty much guarantees. Also RIP "mostly those games" lol.

Season pass is cheap, and a lot of other content will come with it so im not that bothered

You see when most people admit they're wrong, they don't sarcastically imply someone else is wrong. They just own up to it.
ill admit that was far from by brightest moment
 
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Y'know, I originally planned to buy Warriors.
I'm very new to the franchise so the lack of characters from old games didn't bother me, though I can see why people would be upset over it.
But with how they're basically releasing an 85% game and locking the rest behind a pay wall AND add OLIVIA of all the Awakening characters they could choose, I lost interest.

Characters that I care about in Warriors:
Chrom
Lissa
Frederick
Robin
Cordelia
Owain
Takumi
Oboro
Sakura
Leo
Niles

...Yeah, not enough reason for me to buy this game. Not at the slightest.
 
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I'm just looking at the topics about Ayra and Fire Emblem Warriors and the sadist in me is just gleeful today. Is this a side-effect of not letting people's complaints get to you? Or a side-effect of just having low standards in general? Or just looking on the bright side of life in general?
 
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I like the choices.

That said I'm annoyed.

Those four should have been free.

That said, I'm still game. Both the game and DLC are still appealing to me.
 

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Characters I care about in Warriors:

Marth
Tiki
Owain
Robin (mainly M!Robin, haven't played Awakening but I have an affinity for him for some reason)
Corrin (mainly M!Corrin)
Ryoma
Takumi
Hinoka (bittersweet though, they completely messed up her voice)
Xander
Leo
Elise
Anna

Not terrible but outside of Ryoma, Takumi and Marth, nobody I'm particularly passionate about is there. And those three were expected.

I was hoping there would be a wider variety of characters though, mainly so I could get more interested in older games before I play them. And I really wanted an SoV DLC pack (I understand it was unreasonable for the base game except for Celica because she was the producer's waifu and Nintendo wanted some last minute promotion for SoV in there or something, but a DLC pack for that felt like a no-brainer). DLC packs for other old games could have made up for things too, but they took the extra lazy route instead.

On top of the game apparently having a really dull story mode, and clones, and the VA problems and stuff like the botched textures in some places and the game just looks very underwhelming. And to be honest, History Mode doesn't look as fun as HW Adventure Mode to me. Soooo yeah.
 
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Characters I care about in Warriors

Awakening cast sans Tharja
Marth
Lyn
Celica
Anna
Ryoma
Xander
Leo
Takumi
Minerva
Tiki
Oboro

I'm just looking at the topics about Ayra and Fire Emblem Warriors and the sadist in me is just gleeful today. Is this a side-effect of not letting people's complaints get to you? Or a side-effect of just having low standards in general? Or just looking on the bright side of life in general?

Always look on the bright side of life~


Howe much are the DLC packs again??
$9 each.
Season pass is $20.

 
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