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[Aurane]

angery dusk puppo

Seriously though holy ****.

 

[Deleted member]

"I wonder how Faqs is reacting to this"

Ah yes, just as expected

Also, I unlocked Sigurd's Lv40 convo and he's actually aware of the ending of his own game, huh.

Arvis: *kills his comrades*
*Burns Sigurd alive*
*F***s his wife and erases her memory*
*Makes life hell for his children*
*Prolly something about an evil dragon I dunno I didn't play FE4*
Sigurd: "Evil can be good and good can be evil" <--Actual quote from his Lv40 convo

 

[ChikoLad]

"I wonder how Faqs is reacting to this"
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Ah yes, just as expected

Also, I unlocked Sigurd's Lv40 convo and he's actually aware of the ending of his own game, huh.

Arvis: *kills his comrades*
*Burns Sigurd alive*
*F***s his wife and erases her memory*
*Makes life hell for his children*
*Prolly something about an evil dragon I dunno I didn't play FE4*
Sigurd: "Evil can be good and good can be evil" <--Actual quote from his Lv40 convo

Also people live when they are killed and and die when they live.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm just gonna drop this here.

It’s official: Mewtwo and other Legendary Pokémon appear in #PokemonUltraSunMoon! Get ready to catch them on 11/17! https://t.co/se1lZJzeby pic.twitter.com/IUo3YzmDes

— Pokémon (@Pokemon) October 19, 2017

Thoughts?

 

[Moydow]

Training up the Sigurd I have for the TT, I ain't passing up this monster of a bonus unit.
Question: do you still get the bonus from bonus units if the team they're on is wiped out?

A wise choice. You'll not regret it. Sigurd is a god among men.

And yeah, you still get the bonus even if the bonus unit dies. The Tempest Trials would really suck if you didn't, they're already more than enough of a grind.

 

[ChikoLad]

Thinking about it, making Ayra part of the TT banner is a **** move, not because everyone assumed she is part of the TT rewards, but because she could have just been part of the other Genealogy banner itself. Banners with new units typically come in sets of 3 or 4 when it's a group of new units and not reprints, so it's kinda money grubby of them to start separating just one character into their own banner.

I would say to not spend Orbs on the banner to show them it's not a good strategy but whales exist.

 

[Deleted member]

Salt in atomic level courtesy of GameFaqs

Also people live when they are killed and and die when they live.

Like, I'm pretty sure he's talking about some gray moraluty **** or how the ends may or may not justify the means but he's the guy who had his life ruined by a guy who thought the ends justify the means.
Sigurd: "Evil can be goo--"
Arvis: "Sigurd, shut the hell up I'm gonna **** your wife now"

I'm just gonna drop this here.

It’s official: Mewtwo and other Legendary Pokémon appear in #PokemonUltraSunMoon! Get ready to catch them on 11/17! https://t.co/se1lZJzeby pic.twitter.com/IUo3YzmDes

— Pokémon (@Pokemon) October 19, 2017

Thoughts?

Me, sitting a top the three Mewtwos I have from HGSS and the other two from XY: oh geez, sure is hype

A wise choice. You'll not regret it. Sigurd is a god among men.

And yeah, you still get the bonus even if the bonus unit dies. The Tempest Trials would really suck if you didn't, they're already more than enough of a grind.

He had 45 Atk by Lv25, I'm scared.
Gonna be good to have a magic tank and hopefully a better counter for BLyn whenever I use him in the Arena.

Just need to give some skills to Julia, I pulled her way back then and had her at Lv30 but never really used her because I had Nino already.
Since I need one more unit for my second team, what skills should I pass to her?

 

[Deleted member]

Me, sitting a top the three Mewtwos I have from HGSS and the other two from XY: oh geez, sure is hype

I mean, I have every Legendary ever.
But it would be nice to have access to them without transferring.

 

[Aurane]

"Mewtwo and other Legendary Pokémon"

Okay Mewtwo is confirmed but..

...do they mean ALL of them or just... 'Other' Legendaries?

 

[powerprotoman]

me: man this ayra this is pretty scummy
Alsome: i wonder what ill get out of my free pull *gets ayra*

well at elast i wont have to spend orbs untill that halloween banner im sure is comming

 

[RamOne]

I'm just gonna drop this here.

It’s official: Mewtwo and other Legendary Pokémon appear in #PokemonUltraSunMoon! Get ready to catch them on 11/17! https://t.co/se1lZJzeby pic.twitter.com/IUo3YzmDes

— Pokémon (@Pokemon) October 19, 2017

Thoughts?

I expected legendaries to be catchable in USM, but I hope they all have their own retro universe. Like, you can catch Articuno in a universe that looks like the Seafoam Islands. It could also fix the problem of regular Raichu by evolving a Pikachu in Zapdos' universe, the Power Plan.

"Mewtwo and other Legendary Pokémon"

Okay Mewtwo is confirmed but..

...do they mean ALL of them or just... 'Other' Legendaries?

Every legendary bar Mythicals, because of VGC, with some of them version exclusive.

 

[Aurane]

Every legendary bar Mythicals, because of VGC.

How do you know that though? It just says, "other".

 

[ChikoLad]

Found this on reddit and thought it was funny.

 

[RamOne]

How do you know that though? It just says, "other".

I don't know that. I just think it is, because of VGC 2018 having this rule:

All Pokémon in the National Pokédex are allowed, with the following restrictions:

• Pokémon must have the Alola symbol showing they were caught in the Alola region

They mention 'some legendary Pokémon' not being allowed too (which are basically every box legendary plus Mewtwo), but I'm sure VGC 2019 will change this rule to 'a maximum of two of the following legendaries', like VGC 2016 had. But expect at the least every legendary that hasn't been a box one.

I think they'll distribute the legendaries the same way as ORAS did, with Kanto legendaries added to both games and Yveltal as US-exclusive and Xerneas as UM-exclusive.

 

[Deleted member]

Tbh, Ayra seems too much of a Player Phase unit. Like, all you need against her is a good ranged unit and she's toast, be thankful she's not on a horse.
I thought Sigurd would be God himself but the only stat he has over my BK is Atk which means he's only a really mobile Magic tank(dunno what his IVs are but he has 32 Spd so it's not like he's getting many ORKOs).

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Maybe I'm stupid but...

How is Arya being in banner scummy exactly?

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe I'm stupid but...

How is Arya being in banner scummy exactly?

It's not. We expected her to be a free unit but she's not, that's disappointing but not scummy.

What IS scummy is the fact she's on a different banner from the other 3 new Genealogy units(and banners are usually 4 units) two days after the Genealogy banner was released. And I believe no TT focus banners ever had new units too, though I can't say that for certain.
And finally, she's on a banner with two older units, hell, I remember when Eldigan and Lachesis were released and I had stopped playing with the VG update.
Not only it makes players spend Orbs on a banner that's 2/3 old stuff, Eldigan is also a Red unit so the chances of getting Ayra are half of what they should be.
Like, if you pull a Red 5* unit, the chance it's her is only 25%, and that's IF you pull a 5* Red

 

[allison]

I think Fire Emblem is the least chill Nintendo fandom, which is saying a lot coming from a Metroid fan. (The most chill Nintendo fandom is undeniably Kirby.)

 

[Deleted member]

I expected legendaries to be catchable in USM, but I hope they all have their own retro universe. Like, you can catch Articuno in a universe that looks like the Seafoam Islands. It could also fix the problem of regular Raichu by evolving a Pikachu in Zapdos' universe, the Power Plan.

I'd be totally down for that, IF I can catch Giratina in something that resembles the Distortion World.

 

[Aurane]

You ever realized how self centered a race the Whos are?

They live in a town called Whoville.

Man now I understand why The Grinch hated those nose high ********.

 

[ChikoLad]

Tbh, Ayra seems too much of a Player Phase unit. Like, all you need against her is a good ranged unit and she's toast, be thankful she's not on a horse.
I thought Sigurd would be God himself but the only stat he has over my BK is Atk which means he's only a really mobile Magic tank(dunno what his IVs are but he has 32 Spd so it's not like he's getting many ORKOs).

Power creep isn't necessarily about being the new best unit. Ayra isn't the new Reinhardt or Brave Lyn or something, and you won't have to build teams around her. Other sword users like Ryoma are still very powerful, if not more so, due to things like having Distant Counter built-in. And of course, red sword units kinda struggle in the current meta if they don't have Distant Counter.

Power creep is more about previous units or weapons being rendered obsolete by something similar but better than them being released later, or otherwise receiving special treatment. Ayra definitely fits that bill. She's got Villager BST for no reason at all, inexplicably has a Legendary weapon (did she have a Legendary weapon in her game?), and has insanely high Spd. Lon'qu is the unit with the highest Spd, and while IIRC he still is, Ayra is pretty close and also comes with a Legendary weapon that not only boosts her Spd but gives her extra advantages to take from it. She also gets a unique Special that also draws from her Spd. So Ayra pretty much renders any Spd oriented sword users who don't come with a DC weapon (Ryoma) completely obsolete, especially since she has the strong Atk and Legendary weapon on top of that.

Also since she's a banner unit you can actually +10 merge her, unlike say, Black Knight.

I don't think her being power creep is the real issue though.

Maybe I'm stupid but...

How is Arya being in banner scummy exactly?

It sets a bad precedence and goes against everything we knew about the game and how it operates so far.

Ayra was first officially revealed in the World of the Holy War trailer along with Sigurd, Deirdre, and Tailtiu. She wasn't given a spotlight though since she wasn't part of the banner. You just saw her chibi sprite in the background.

This has happened before with other characters in trailers for previous banners, and has always resulted in that unit being a free unit. A good example being Clive with the Alm's Army/Celica's Army banner trailer, where he was just in the background of the trailer because he wasn't on the new banners. He ended up as a TT reward.

Instead, they specifically separated Ayra from the actual Genealogy banner (even though plenty of new banners have had four Focus units - just look at the still ongoing Performing Arts banner) to put her in her own banner. Not only that but she shares a spot with Eldigan (which also means if you for some reason would actually prefer and Eldigan, well he's harder to get because Ayra is there!).

And to rub salt in the wound, the upcoming TT will have all 40% bonus units be brand new, 5-Star only banner units, which has never happened before.

It doesn't help that Sigurd himself was a fan favourite character a lot of people were waiting for and himself was a pretty big power creep, and Deirdre wasn't too bad either, so people have spent their Orbs pulling for them. Plus people are still pulling from the Performing Arts banner. This is probably the most aggressive IS has ever been with trying to extort money, especially since they had been maintaining a good balance with keeping the game profitable while still not being too aggressive and giving us time to breathe and save Orbs.

Also note how they didn't give us an official road map for this month. Place your bets on why that is.

So yeah, even as someone who personally doesn't care about Ayra, this sets a bad precedent. It's a reminder that this game could lean into the territory of notoriously scummy gacha games, getting rid of the goodwill they've built up.

I think Fire Emblem is the least chill Nintendo fandom, which is saying a lot coming from a Metroid fan. (The most chill Nintendo fandom is undeniably Kirby.)

No, the Mario and Zelda fandoms are the least chill.

 

[AreJay25]

In case there was any doubt, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are officially the last main series Pokemon games on the 3DS.

With how much they've been talking about it being a major expansion on SuMo, seems like they're going out with a bang.

 

[Erureido]

In case there was any doubt, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are officially the last main series Pokemon games on the 3DS.

With how much they've been talking about it being a major expansion on SuMo, seems like they're going out with a bang.

Yep, this confirms generation 8 is indeed going to be on a different console from the 3DS, pretty much the Switch at this point IMO.

 

[Opossum]

In case there was any doubt, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are officially the last main series Pokemon games on the 3DS.

With how much they've been talking about it being a major expansion on SuMo, seems like they're going out with a bang.

If there was any more doubt that they're phasing out the 3DS, this should expel it. The system can't survive once Pokémon leaves it, and add to that that other series that were big on the system have moved to the Switch (Kirby and Fire Emblem, mainly), and it's definitely in its twilight.


Still love the system and I'm glad it had a good run, but I think I can safely say they'll be focusing on the Switch now, outside of maybe one or two late-arrival stragglers.

 

[ChikoLad]

Speaking of Kirby...

Get ready to rumble in #Kirby Battle Royale! A free demo is now available to download on #3DS #eShop: https://t.co/OjBVkAxBZI pic.twitter.com/iAFE0Yz6bi

— Nintendo UK (@NintendoUK) October 19, 2017

 

[Deleted member]

Power creep isn't necessarily about being the new best unit. Ayra isn't the new Reinhardt or Brave Lyn or something, and you won't have to build teams around her. Other sword users like Ryoma are still very powerful, if not more so, due to things like having Distant Counter built-in. And of course, red sword units kinda struggle in the current meta if they don't have Distant Counter.

Power creep is more about previous units or weapons being rendered obsolete by something similar but better than them being released later, or otherwise receiving special treatment. Ayra definitely fits that bill. She's got Villager BST for no reason at all, inexplicably has a Legendary weapon (did she have a Legendary weapon in her game?), and has insanely high Spd. Lon'qu is the unit with the highest Spd, and while IIRC he still is, Ayra is pretty close and also comes with a Legendary weapon that not only boosts her Spd but gives her extra advantages to take from it. She also gets a unique Special that also draws from her Spd. So Ayra pretty much renders any Spd oriented sword users who don't come with a DC weapon (Ryoma) completely obsolete, especially since she has the strong Atk and Legendary weapon on top of that.

Also since she's a banner unit you can actually +10 merge her, unlike say, Black Knight.

I don't think her being power creep is the real issue though.



It sets a bad precedence and goes against everything we knew about the game and how it operates so far.

Ayra was first officially revealed in the World of the Holy War trailer along with Sigurd, Deirdre, and Tailtiu. She wasn't given a spotlight though since she wasn't part of the banner. You just saw her chibi sprite in the background.

This has happened before with other characters in trailers for previous banners, and has always resulted in that unit being a free unit. A good example being Clive with the Alm's Army/Celica's Army banner trailer, where he was just in the background of the trailer because he wasn't on the new banners. He ended up as a TT reward.

Instead, they specifically separated Ayra from the actual Genealogy banner (even though plenty of new banners have had four Focus units - just look at the still ongoing Performing Arts banner) to put her in her own banner. Not only that but she shares a spot with Eldigan (which also means if you for some reason would actually prefer and Eldigan, well he's harder to get because Ayra is there!).

And to rub salt in the wound, the upcoming TT will have all 40% bonus units be brand new, 5-Star only banner units, which has never happened before.

It doesn't help that Sigurd himself was a fan favourite character a lot of people were waiting for and himself was a pretty big power creep, and Deirdre wasn't too bad either, so people have spent their Orbs pulling for them. Plus people are still pulling from the Performing Arts banner. This is probably the most aggressive IS has ever been with trying to extort money, especially since they had been maintaining a good balance with keeping the game profitable while still not being too aggressive and giving us time to breathe and save Orbs.

Also note how they didn't give us an official road map for this month. Place your bets on why that is.

So yeah, even as someone who personally doesn't care about Ayra, this sets a bad precedent. It's a reminder that this game could lean into the territory of notoriously scummy gacha games, getting rid of the goodwill they've built up.



No, the Mario and Zelda fandoms are the least chill.

I'n not saying she isn't blatant powercreep, but I think most players are overreacting to her like she's the new BLyn.

Also, characters who didn't have Prf weapons got them(Valter and Clarisse for example) and most of them are [Character]'s [Weappn], which is the case with Ayra.
Like, both Arden and Arvis got uninheritable skills too but no one is complaining.(though I guess Spd Ring being uninheritable is for the best)

 

[ChikoLad]

I'n not saying she isn't blatant powercreep, but I think most players are overreacting to her like she's the new BLyn.

Also, characters who didn't have Prf weapons got them(Valter and Clarisse for example) and most of them are [Character]'s [Weappn], which is the case with Ayra.
Like, both Arden and Arvis got uninheritable skills too but no one is complaining.(though I guess Spd Ring being uninheritable is for the best)

Pretty sure Clarisse's Bow is inheritable and doesn't have Legendary Mt, since she gets it upgraded to Clarisse's Bow+. So it should be inheritable like Berkut's Lance+ (which I know for a fact is inheritable).

Cursed Lance makes sense since that's a pretty story relevant weapon for Valter which tends to be what defines what gets a 16 Mt, uninheritable Legendary weapon classification (when speaking of swords, lances, and axes at least). Like the Falchions.

I obviously haven't played Genealogy but as far as I can tell from Google searching, "Ayra's Blade" wasn't a thing that existed. So they made up a weapon for Heroes, and gave it the 16 Mt, uninheritable Legendary weapon classification, just for Ayra. Regardless of how powerful that weapon actually is, IMO that screams of Ayra getting special treatment when you have situations like Berkut being stuck with "Berkut's Lance+" which also wasn't a thing in SoV IIRC, but Berkut actually DOES have a Legendary, unique weapon he could have used from SoV.

Regnal Astra is fine because it was actually a signature ability for Ayra from what I understand, but the Ayra's Blade thing is silly IMO, there is no reason why it should have 16 Mt and be uninheritable.

I'm not really complaining about it being powerful or anything, it's more the principle matter of them making up Legendary weapons for characters while other characters with actual Legendary weapons get stuck with something generic and underwhelming.

 

[Deleted member]

Sigurd's squad is actually doing pretty good, I just need to upgrade WoM on BK and give Julia some actual decent skills.
I'mma name them BBQ Knights

Pretty sure Clarisse's Bow is inheritable and doesn't have Legendary Mt, since she gets it upgraded to Clarisse's Bow+. So it should be inheritable like Berkut's Lance+ (which I know for a fact is inheritable).

Wait, it is? Damn, if only Lyn had something other than Atk Smoke

Cursed Lance makes sense since that's a pretty story relevant weapon for Valter which tends to be what defines what gets a 16 Mt, uninheritable Legendary weapon classification (when speaking of swords, lances, and axes at least). Like the Falchions.

Cursed Lance is made up though, at least as far as an actual weapon. It's only ever mentioned as a handwave for his behavior in a support between Duessel and Cormag

 

[Opossum]

Sigurd's squad is actually doing pretty good, I just need to upgrade WoM on BK and give Julia some actual decent skills.
I'mma name them BBQ Knights

Wait, it is? Damn, if only Lyn had something other than Atk Smoke

Cursed Lance is made up though, at least as far as an actual weapon. It's only ever mentioned as a handwave for his behavior in a support between Duessel and Cormag

Can confirm, Clarisse's Bow is inheritable. My Virion uses it.

 

[ChikoLad]

Sigurd's squad is actually doing pretty good, I just need to upgrade WoM on BK and give Julia some actual decent skills.
I'mma name them BBQ Knights

Wait, it is? Damn, if only Lyn had something other than Atk Smoke

Cursed Lance is made up though, at least as far as an actual weapon. It's only ever mentioned as a handwave for his behavior in a support between Duessel and Cormag

Any weapon that has a "+" version is inheritable, which is simply a version of the weapon reserved for 5-Star versions of units. They also never have Legendary weapon Mt. When it comes to [Character Name] [Weapon] situations, they usually actually have one less Mt than the "Silver" equivalent of that weapon, but they have a built-in skill (Berkut's Lance+ has 14 Mt and grants +4 Res when the unit is under attack).

That's why the Ayra's Blade situation is such a head scratcher. Valter's Cursed Lance at least has a story reference even if he never used it, so it has some basis. Ayra's Blade has nothing to base off so it comes off as a blatant special treatment. I understand she's a fan favourite, but there are plenty of fan favourites who didn't get that kind of special treatment. Hell, there are characters with actual weapons named after them (for example, almost all of the founding Deliverance members from SoV had one after clearing their chapter in the Rise of the Deliverance DLC - so Clair and Clive could have had their special lances from that in Heroes...Lukas' was a shield though so I guess he'd be screwed anyway) that don't even get it as a non-legendary.

So yeah, I really don't get what they were going for. It's not a big deal but it confuses me.

 

[Ivander]

Geez, I woke up at a non-peaceful moment, didn't I? Can't say I'm too surprised that Ayra isn't a TT unit, but I think that's mostly because they gave us a very powerful unit last TT, the Black Knight, who had very good stats, a weapon with Distant Counter and his own exclusive Special that takes away 80% of the enemy's Def/Res.

Arvis: *kills his comrades*
*Burns Sigurd alive*
*F***s his wife and erases her memory*
*Makes life hell for his children*
*Prolly something about an evil dragon I dunno I didn't play FE4*
Sigurd: "Evil can be good and good can be evil" <--Actual quote from his Lv40 convo

And there's your problem. Arvis didn't do the underlined. That was Manfroy, the one who was manipulating Arvis as much as Arvis was manipulating everyone in order to achieve peace. Manfroy was the one responsible for Loptyr's revival, while Arvis had no intention of bringing back Loptyr.

-Manfroy kidnapped Deirdre and erased her memory in order to marry her to Arvis, who did not know about her connections to Sigurd(at first, but he did find out later as he did show Deirdre to Sigrud fully aware of their relation), the fact that they were half-siblings or that one of their children would get full Loptyr blood from their union. When Arvis learned that they were half-siblings, he hid this while trying to make her life as happy as possible, as he genuinely loved her before knowing this and after.
-His children had a good life until Julius was 7, in which Manfroy had Julius possessed by Loptyr, who then killed Deirdre, tried to kill Julia and than started the child hunts. Arvis couldn't do anything to stop Julius from becoming the new Emperor as decreed by the previous deceased emperor, but Arvis did actually work in order to save as many lives in the child hunts as possible.
-He's also the one responsible for giving Seliph his father's sword Tyrfing and for leading Seliph to allow him to rescue the children he had saved. And he let himself be slain by Seliph.

This is what happens when you don't do your research. Arvis was a ******* when it came to Sigurd, but Arvis was a good person in terms for what he wanted for his people and his family. Didn't help that he had a messed-up childhood with his father hanging himself.
And when all that he achieved was taken away from Manfroy, he did his best to actually save lives that were being hunted by Manfroy and his possessed son and to help Seliph win against Loptyr, even when it meant allowing Seliph to kill him for killing his father. As Seliph said in his game, Arvis was another victim of the cruel tidings of fate.

 

[ChikoLad]

Kirby Battle Royale is pretty fun. Also you can get Meta Knight early in the full game if you play the demo and "send data" to the full game.

EDIT: Also we got another Sonic Forces comic. Really interesting stuff going on in this one.

Spoiler

Knock knock. It’s Issue #2 of our Sonic Forces prequel comics, featuring Knuckles and Silver. pic.twitter.com/sEByKmnKy2

— Sonic the Hedgehog (@sonic_hedgehog) October 19, 2017

pic.twitter.com/0LI4ZdrWFx

— Sonic the Hedgehog (@sonic_hedgehog) October 19, 2017

 

[powerprotoman]

remember kids im allways right even when i should eb wrong
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/
Fire Emblem Fates
– New Playable Characters

Azura
Niles
Oboro
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

– New Playable Characters

Navarre
Minerva
Linde
Fire Emblem Awakening

– New Playable Characters

Owain
Tharja
Olivia

(seriously why were you expecting gaius when daggers werent a weapon class?)

 

[Mythra]

Im totall lost right now but I'll say two things:
-Arya looks pretty af.
-Kirby is the key to achieve world peace.

 

[Deleted member]

>Tharja is in the game but not Henry
Okay, I saw this coming. It's massively diappointing but okay.
>Olivia is in but not Henry
WHAT
Like seriously what is this Waifu Emblem Warriors?
Oh wait.

 

[Deleted member]

remember kids im allways right even when i should eb wrong
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/
Fire Emblem Fates
– New Playable Characters

Azura
Niles
Oboro
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

– New Playable Characters

Navarre
Minerva
Linde
Fire Emblem Awakening

– New Playable Characters

Owain
Tharja
Olivia

(seriously why were you expecting gaius when daggers werent a weapon class?)

Actual picture of Koei Tecmo right now

There's no way anyone can defend this game's awful decisions now.
This is outright cutting content to make them paid DLC later

seriously why were you expecting gaius when daggers werent a weapon class?

It's almost like he uses swords, right?

 

[Schnee117]

(seriously why were you expecting gaius when daggers werent a weapon class?)

Why would you expect Gaius to use daggers instead of a sword when Caeda is using a Lance (like in Shadow Dragon) instead of a Sword?

 

[Baskerville]

remember kids im allways right even when i should eb wrong
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/
Fire Emblem Fates
– New Playable Characters

Azura
Niles
Oboro
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

– New Playable Characters

Navarre
Minerva
Linde
Fire Emblem Awakening

– New Playable Characters

Owain
Tharja
Olivia

(seriously why were you expecting gaius when daggers werent a weapon class?)

Of course Tharja and Navarre are DLC.

 

[powerprotoman]

Why would you expect Gaius to use daggers instead of a sword when Caeda is using a Lance (like in Shadow Dragon) instead of a Sword?

i eman they specifically stated they were using shadow dragon for the marth emblem characters soo not actually a good comparison

 

[Schnee117]

i eman they specifically stated they were using shadow dragon for the marth emblem characters soo not actually a good comparison

And they specifically said they were using Awakening characters so yes it's a good comparison.