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So, in anticipation of Mario Odyssey now being 2 weeks away, I made this image of all the "official" Mario outfits that aren't in Odyssey yet. All of these come from official Mario artwork or games, and yes I do know where each is from. Feel free to let me know if I missed any.

Any in particular you're hoping to see make it to Odyssey? Which ones do you think are most likely from the list above?
Gotta get that Beatlemania Mario lol

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So, in anticipation of Mario Odyssey now being 2 weeks away, I made this image of all the "official" Mario outfits that aren't in Odyssey yet. All of these come from official Mario artwork or games, and yes I do know where each is from. Feel free to let me know if I missed any.

Any in particular you're hoping to see make it to Odyssey? Which ones do you think are most likely from the list above?
I desperately want Strikers charged mario, Sunshine Mario, and Samurai mario. Punch out Mario too, just because Punch out.

I feel like Samurai mario might be the most likely, simply because it's so recent.


EDIT reminder halloween isnt just about spookiness.
Source is Tumblr "Insanityknowsbest" seems safe, but im not taking chances. Just look up "Kid icarus halloween" if you need to
This is officially my favorite image on the internet
 
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It looks like another horror that was a very popular horror game from a small Taiwan indie develop studio despite with me have mixed opinion on its setting and how netizen conveys.

Detention, one of the best horror game in 2016, is coming to Nintendo Switch


Set in 1960s Taiwan of the White Terror period, students Wei and Ray find themselves trapped and vulnerable in Greenwood High School (翠華中學) which is located in a remote mountainous area. The place they once knew has changed in unsettling ways, haunted by evil creatures known as the "lingered" (魍魎). While hiding from the rampaging monsters, the protagonists unveil mysteries which slowly reveal the dark past of the cursed school.
As a Taiwanese and I am basically neutral on this but I have to put a disclaimer on this game:

Despite White Terror period often regard as one of the darkest ages when it comes to Taiwan's democracy and freedom of speech, but this games is basically all fiction and does not represent the true historical event and terror of the well... White Terror...

Basically as long as you don't against the government back then you won't get in trouble... but I understand there were many victims there were never involved... but sadly they were often being neglected and the survivors or their families tend to be bias when it comes to this...
 
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I was reading online about Stat Allocation in Super Mario RPG

and I think I'm going to try something different than I usually do

People online have said it doesn't really matter either way because you could just dump everything in HP and still win the game


I'm going to dump all of Bowser's Stats into Magic, unless HP gets increased more

Bowser actually has some of the most useful magic in the game, but he's got a horrible magic stat.

With the right equipment and dumping most of his bonuses in Magic he can have useful magic.

For Mario, I'm going to increase the stat that gets the most during the bonus. Which will make him a lot more balanced than I'm used to with a lot less attack. But, it should make his specials stronger than I usually have them.

I think I'm going to do the same with Geno as well, except put none in HP

For Mallow, all in Special except when HP gets a bonus, like Bowser.

Peach - Same as Mallow and Bowser.
 

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So, in anticipation of Mario Odyssey now being 2 weeks away, I made this image of all the "official" Mario outfits that aren't in Odyssey yet. All of these come from official Mario artwork or games, and yes I do know where each is from. Feel free to let me know if I missed any.

Any in particular you're hoping to see make it to Odyssey? Which ones do you think are most likely from the list above?
Rapper, Strikers, Sunshine, Afro, Samurai, Ref and Santa are the ones that should be in it.
 

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I just noticed something: A Pokémon USUM Demo has not been announced yet.
 

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Leak came through once again, here's the Genealogy banner with Sigurd, Deirdre, and Tailtiu (yes!).

Also Ayra can be seen in the last map, so she's probably a TT reward.
 
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Well, I mean it's essentially the same as Sun/ Moon
They can put out one to showcase a new location and put an exclusive Z-Crystal in it.

Regardless of the amount new content, Im cool with no demo; because that means no datamining spoiler fest.
 
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Leak came through once again, here's the Genealogy banner with Sigurd, Deirdre, and Tailtiu (yes!).

Also Ayra can be seen in the last map, so she's probably a TT reward.
Holy **** man, all those defensive skills on Sigurd
I want one so I can put him on the meat grinder and give Crusader's Ward to Hector
His Paralogue is going to be a pain in the ass for me

 

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Holy **** man, all those defensive skills on Sigurd
I want one so I can put him on the meat grinder and give Crusader's Ward to Hector
His Paralogue is going to be a pain in the *** for me

Crusader's Ward is non-inheritable, like Black Knight's Black Luna.

Sigurd and Deidre definitely look powerful but I honestly don't really need them and want Minerva more right now so I can make a Flier Emblem team. I was actually a little worried about Spd Ploy for a sec in regards to my Clair but then I saw that it checks Res and nah, she's fine.

It would be cool if Seliph and Julia could inherit Divine Tyrfing and Divine Naga respectively, though. Would be a neat little nod.
 

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Leak came through once again, here's the Genealogy banner with Sigurd, Deirdre, and Tailtiu (yes!).

Also Ayra can be seen in the last map, so she's probably a TT reward.
Sigurd looks pretty darn strong (also, Grant George sounds good on him for his VA), and Deirdre is basically a better Julia. Tailtiu looks pretty solid too.

I'll give this banner a shot when it becomes available.
 
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I just. . .I'm a failure at everything I do. At the end of the day, I just wish I could be a little happier and all I do is ruin the lives of everyone around me. I hate myself. I hate myself so much. I wish I'd never existed, because the world would probably be a better place without me.
Not true.

You made mistakes. Okay, own up to them, and improve.

You are way too young to have made permanent mistakes in life. In a few years the troubles you're looking at now will mean little more than you than obstacles you outgrew. You WILL be stronger than you are now. So be prepared to walk the path towards this exact strenght.

You will be fine.
 

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I spent a little money so I can do one more 20 Orb pull on the Minerva banner and instead I got a -Def, +Res Amelia and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Like I kinda wanted Amelia for an Armour Emblem team but the IVs aren't too great.

 

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Mornin' guys. So uh, remember when I posted the fake trailers for the three Warriors games coming to the Nintendo Switch months ago?


Yeah. Here's the ACTUAL trailer. Saw this from a Siliconera article too so that's proof enough. The article also has three separate trailers if you've want to see each three individually. Granted, I would assume any of you that watched those three fake trailers would've already given you the idea of how they play, but there's the trailer nonetheless.

Now as for God Eater... These new Aragamis look dope af. Dual wielding God Arcs? Bruh. I know Dual Weilding God Arcs have already been mentioned from probably months ago but that **** looks cool.
 
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I've had Minerva since February/March, can't remember if she was my second or third 5*(I know Camilla was the first and I got another one of her soon later).
I just recently sent her to the meat grinder so Axezura could get Sacred Cowl.

Also just got the Deflect Magic Seal, gonna have to grind a bit to upgrade it but I hope this helps Hector with Mages

 

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Leak came through once again, here's the Genealogy banner with Sigurd, Deirdre, and Tailtiu (yes!).

Also Ayra can be seen in the last map, so she's probably a TT reward.
Poor Seliph. Stuck with the +5 Def at 50% while Sigurd gets Mage Repellent with a touch of Close Defense. Times like that make you wish some characters could inherit personal weapons.
For those who were curious on Summoner Support

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Basically, it's The Meta™


On an unrelated note: holy **** the new MHA chapter

Mostly Meta. Camilla, Robin, Tharja, regular Lyn and Takumi nowadays aren't exactly Meta anymore. But it is somewhat disappointing. I mean, I was expecting at least one incredibly out-of-nowhere character, but it's so predictably bland compared to the Character Support chart.
 
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I honestly don't know why people pick a lot of already powerful characters for Summoner Support unless they genuinely really like them from the source material. Especially Reinhardt.

Reinhardt's Spd is completely irrelevant since you're gonna have Dire Thunder regardless and his base Spd is not very good to begin with so he's very often going to be doubled if you let him get attacked.

His Def and Res are also pretty much terrible and won't be salvaged, and his HP is nothing to write home about.

And if you aren't already destroying everything but his counters, you're probably doing something wrong. Death Blow, Cavalry buffs, and merges if you can get them, will make him more than powerful enough.

I'd rather use Summoner Support on a unit that is just slightly lacking in certain areas and needs a little bump to be great.
 
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I honestly don't know why people pick a lot of already powerful characters for Summoner Support unless they genuinely really like them from the source material. Especially Reinhardt.

Reinhardt's Spd is completely irrelevant since you're gonna have Dire Thunder regardless and his base Spd is not very good to begin with so he's very often going to be doubled if you let him get attacked.

His Def and Res are also pretty much terrible and won't be salvaged, and his HP is nothing to write home about.

And if you aren't already destroying everything but his counters, you're probably doing something wrong. Death Blow, Cavalry buffs, and merges if you can get them, will make him more than powerful enough.

I'd rather use Summoner Support on a unit that is just slightly lacking in certain areas and needs a little bump to be great.
I have my Summoner Support on Nino, mainly because she's my favorite character currently in the game(gimme joshua, IS pls) amd because I feel she's the one who needs the boost out of all my units the most.
Brave Lyn and Hector do fine on their own and Axezura isn't supposed to be fighting.

 

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I have my Summoner Support on Nino, mainly because she's my favorite character currently in the game(gimme joshua, IS pls) amd because I feel she's the one who needs the boost out of all my units the most.
Brave Lyn and Hector do fine on their own and Axezura isn't supposed to be fighting.

Nino is a character who requires heavy investment and ally buffs to really become powerful anyway so yeah, I understand that. Same situation with my Clair (well minus the ally buffs but they certainly help).

I'm mostly just talking about your Reinhardts and Brave Lyns and Bridal Cordelias who really only benefit from one or two stats. They should already be doing their job perfectly fine if you've got ideal skills on them so they don't need the buffs from Summoner Support.

I can see why people would do Black Knight though. He can become a god with the right buffs and Summoner Support. His only lacking stat is Res, and with Summoner Support, Distant Def seal, and any other buffs like those from allies, he can completely patch up his Res stat while also making his others even better. Plus he doesn't have the luxury of getting to +10 merge right now so it's a good compromise.
 
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Nino is a character who requires heavy investment
What? All she needs is someone to buff her and now with Axezura she can gain +15 damage for free.
Sure she's made of paper but she can ORKO stuff with little investment

Like, there's a reason she's one of the most popular non-5* units

 
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What? All she needs is someone to buff her and now with Axezura she can gain +15 damage for free.
Sure she's made of paper but she can ORKO stuff with little investment

Like, there's a reason she's one of the most popular non-5* units

Fire Emblem exists outside of Heroes......
 

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They can put out one to showcase a new location and put an exclusive Z-Crystal in it.

Regardless of the amount new content, Im cool with no demo; because that means no datamining spoiler fest.
With how little we got right now- I wouldn't mind knowing more than I should.

Like if they just so happen to be hiding some secrets, like new Alolan forms.
Fire Emblem exists outside of Heroes......
NO WAY
 
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I spent a little money so I can do one more 20 Orb pull on the Minerva banner and instead I got a -Def, +Res Amelia and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Like I kinda wanted Amelia for an Armour Emblem team but the IVs aren't too great.
It's not so bad. At best, you could sack a spare Hector (if you have one, hence "at best") and give her Distant Counter and the Distant Defence seal, and now she can deal with mages better than any armour other than Sheena; at worst, you can give the Slaying Axe+ or Armour March to someone else, such as Sheena.

Nino is a character who requires heavy investment
Not sure what your definition of "heavy investment" is, but she comes with her best weapon by default, which is usually the most expensive part of any build. All she needs is an A and B skill, and a special, and all her best options for those slots (Fury, Desperation, and Draconic Aura, respectively) are available on common as muck 3-4 star units. Unless you're referring to merging her, but that only really matters for high-level Arena play. Or getting someone to buff her, but Eirika is in the 4 star pool so she's not that hard to come by these days.
 

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It's not so bad. At best, you could sack a spare Hector (if you have one, hence "at best") and give her Distant Counter and the Distant Defence seal, and now she can deal with mages better than any armour other than Sheena; at worst, you can give the Slaying Axe+ or Armour March to someone else, such as Sheena.


Not sure what your definition of "heavy investment" is, but she comes with her best weapon by default, which is usually the most expensive part of any build. All she needs is an A and B skill, and a special, and all her best options for those slots (Fury, Desperation, and Draconic Aura, respectively) are available on common as muck 3-4 star units. Unless you're referring to merging her, but that only really matters for high-level Arena play. Or getting someone to buff her, but Eirika is in the 4 star pool so she's not that hard to come by these days.
IMO if a unit requires optimal team synergy despite not needing much in terms of SI on the unit themselves, then yes, that's still high investment. You still need to build those other units as well. In Nino's case, you need a team who can give her all of those buffs through their C skills or Assists, an Eirika, or a Brave Lucina.

And Eirika may be a 4-Star but she's also a sword user so she's in the red pool which is the worst one after colourless in terms of trying to get a specific unit. Eirika doesn't appear that often.

And assuming you do pull Eirika as a 4-Star, you still need to promote her to give her Sieglinde. Then you need to promote Nino herself since she's normally not available as 5-Star unless it's a blade tome banner. So that's 40,000 feathers right there. That's before you've done the extra SI on both characters.

People call Inigo high investment (he is, for different reasons), yet you can have him serve his main purpose as a Rein/BLyn check who also dances with 0 Feathers spent (Gronnraven+ helps a little but it barely makes a difference, he does fine with a regular Gronnraven in most instances). So I don't see how one can argue Nino isn't high investment considering how most people will be spending 40,000 feathers on her.
 
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IMO if a unit requires optimal team synergy despite not needing much in terms of SI on the unit themselves, then yes, that's still high investment. You still need to build those other units as well. In Nino's case, you need a team who can give her all of those buffs through their C skills or Assists, an Eirika, or a Brave Lucina.

And Eirika may be a 4-Star but she's also a sword user so she's in the red pool which is the worst one after colourless in terms of trying to get a specific unit. Eirika doesn't appear that often.

And assuming you do pull Eirika as a 4-Star, you still need to promote her to give her Sieglinde. Then you need to promote Nino herself since she's normally not available as 5-Star unless it's a blade tome banner. So that's 40,000 feathers right there. That's before you've done the extra SI on both characters.

People call Inigo high investment (he is, for different reasons), yet you can have him serve his main purpose as a Rein/BLyn check who also dances with 0 Feathers spent (Gronnraven+ helps a little but it barely makes a difference, he does fine with a regular Gronnraven in most instances). So I don't see how one can argue Nino isn't high investment considering how most people will be spending 40,000 feathers on her.
Axezura, doesn't even need to be trained or taught any skills, she has a +3 Dance in all stats right off the bat.
20000 to promote only Nino is not going to be that much considering how Feathers are so common nowadays

 

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Axezura, doesn't even need to be trained or taught any skills, she has a +3 Dance in all stats right off the bat.
20000 to promote only Nino is not going to be that much considering how Feathers are so common nowadays

Axezura isn't as good as Eirika or Brave Lucina though because the buff isn't as good and she is required to dance to activate the buff, which can put Axezura in danger in some situations that Brave Lucina and Eirika can handle because they have more bulk (in Arena that costs you points, in TT & Chain Challenge that is losing your Nino buffer for the rest of your run, in GHB, BHB or Squad Assault, that's a game over). You're also wasting a dance that could otherwise be spent on giving Nino or your other units a potential other turn.

It's less investment for her because she's a budget option. She's not optimal as a Nino buffer.

0 Feathers is still less than 20,000 feathers too.
 
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Axezura isn't as good as Eirika or Brave Lucina though because the buff isn't as good and she is required to dance to activate the buff, which can put Axezura in danger in some situations that Brave Lucina and Eirika can handle because they have more bulk (in Arena that costs you points, in TT & Chain Challenge that is losing your Nino buffer for the rest of your run, in GHB, BHB or Squad Assault, that's a game over). You're also wasting a dance that could otherwise be spent on giving Nino or your other units a potential other turn.

It's less investment for her because she's a budget option. She's not optimal as a Nino buffer.

0 Feathers is still less than 20,000 feathers too.
>Select Nino
>Click on the same tile she already is standing on twice
>Have Azura Dance
>????
>Profit

 

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>Select Nino
>Click on the same tile she already is standing on twice
>Have Azura Dance
>????
>Profit

At the sacrifice of using your dancer to actually make your powerful units move across the map to get more KOs or to move out of a sticky situation that they otherwise can't handle.

You know. The thing dancers are supposed to be used for. The thing that makes them S-tier on pretty much any tier list (personally I think it shouldn't quite guarantee S-tier but I digress).

Axezura is designed to offer a bonus to her dance, but designing a team around buffing one unit with her is generally worse than say, having a buffer, a dancer, and two attackers or two defenders or one of each. The latter gives you much more options.

If it works for you for now that's fine, I'm not knocking you. Not everyone has the same options. But anyone will tell you that using your dancer to expand the movement options of more powerful units is generally better than trying to use a dancer as a psuedo-buffer. They are doing neither job as well as a dedicated buffer/dancer.

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Also more Sonic Forces music. Good stuff.

 
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At the sacrifice of using your dancer to actually make your powerful units move across the map to get more KOs or to move out of a sticky situation that they otherwise can't handle.

You know. The thing dancers are supposed to be used for. The thing that makes them S-tier on pretty much any tier list (personally I think it shouldn't quite guarantee S-tier but I digress).

Axezura is designed to offer a bonus to her dance, but designing a team around buffing one unit with her is generally worse than say, having a buffer, a dancer, and two attackers or two defenders or one of each. The latter gives you much more options.

If it works for you for now that's fine, I'm not knocking you. Not everyone has the same options. But anyone will tell you that using your dancer to expand the movement options of more powerful units is generally better than trying to use a dancer as a psuedo-buffer. They are doing neither job as well as a dedicated buffer/dancer.
Okay but, what's the difference between carrying two Dancers and carrying one Dancer and one Buffer especifically for Nino?
You're not wasting the Dancer since this is a AxuraXEirika comparison and not a AxuraXAny other Dancer one.
Besides, Axura can do the job of a buffer and a Dancer, so she takes less resources.

I have Axezura perform various jobs, she's not just there to buff Nino. Hell, most of the time, I don't even need the buffs for the first attack which means I get an attack and a second and even more powerful attack after that.

And even besides that, Nino still doesn't take much investment. All Axezura is is the easiest way to buff Nino really high. When all she really needs is one good buffer, which can be Eirika or whiever else, she makes for a really easy to use unit.
Like, what about promoting an unit is "heavy investment"?

 
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Sigurd looks pretty darn strong (also, Grant George sounds good on him for his VA), and Deirdre is basically a better Julia. Tailtiu looks pretty solid too.

I'll give this banner a shot when it becomes available.
I don't know if I'd say Deirdre is completely better as I think Julia will still have a few niches over her. Naga's defensive boosts will be more valuable for teams that run Goads and Drives rather then Hones and Fortifies since the former can't be nullified and that means Julia would be able to tank more effectively against them since she'd still have her small boost to back herself up. Deirdre may be overall better since the most popular teams run the latter set but Julia should still have her place unless IS completely spoils Deirdre and gives her ridiculous stats.

Of course, this is coming from someone who's nearly finished building Julia and doesn't want to throw all of that work out so there may be a bit of bias here. :p

For those who were curious on Summoner Support

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Basically, it's The Meta™


On an unrelated note: holy **** the new MHA chapter

Well that explains Ninian's unexpected popularity in this current VG, she did the best out of any of the dragons here.
 
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