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There haven't been many character designs out of Monolith I've liked in recent years. Many of them seem pretty generic JRPGish and rather overly anime. Pyra being a great example. I don't believe character design to be one of their strong suits, which for a Nintendo subsidiary is strange.

However, I'm really digging the design of the character in that concept art for their next project.

Here's hoping the finished product doesn't deviate too far!

That design is so much better.

No joke.
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There haven't been many character designs out of Monolith I've liked in recent years. Many of them seem pretty generic JRPGish and rather overly anime. Pyra being a great example. I don't believe character design to be one of their strong suits, which for a Nintendo subsidiary is strange.

However, I'm really digging the design of the character in that concept art for their next project.

Here's hoping the finished product doesn't deviate too far!
Oh hey, it's Dark Souls!

But where are the Wumpa Fruits and bottomless pits?
 
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Serious now, Pyra would look better if they just covered the torso.
Also the face she has in her official art doesn't help; it looked much better in the concept sheets.
 

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That design is so much better.

No joke.
Eh, the hip armor and the added pants are a big improvement but the rest of the doodads feel a bit cluttery. Covering the cleavage in copious bling doesn't really get rid of the giant boob problem and the other add ons are a bit much. I feel like a design partway in between this and the original would be best.
 

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Eh, the hip armor and the added pants are a big improvement but the rest of the doodads feel a bit cluttery. Covering the cleavage in copious bling doesn't really get rid of the giant boob problem and the other add ons are a bit much. I feel like a design partway in between this and the original would be best.
I mean hey, I never said the new design was good.

Just better. :p
 

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Pants are better.

Shirt is worse imo.
 

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I'm not huge on any of the XC2 cast getting into Smash (which would probably just be Rex and/or Pyra) simply because as it stands now, while the game itself looks good, I don't much like their characters. :/
 

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Maybe they're trying to go more mainstream like Fire Emblem did.
 

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I'd like to clarify, though, that I'm not some overly-stuffy sex-negative person when criticizing Pyra's design or anything. Far from it.

It's just, there's literally only one reason she's dressed that way, and it has nothing to do with the game itself, if you catch my drift. There's no reason for her to be half naked in-universe and she's clearly designed with fanservice at the forefront (as if her being drawn and designed by a hentai artist wasn't enough).
Maybe they're trying to go more mainstream like Fire Emblem did.
But even then it wasn't that sort of character design that brought Fire Emblem out of total obscurity. It's just that Nintendo actually gave a damn about marketing it for once, while IS made Awakening a really accessible entry point.

Though that isn't to say Fire Emblem doesn't have its share of design issues. Looking at you, Nowi and female Nohrian armor design.
 

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The chick on XBC2 is unnecessarily half naked. I don't get it.

Maybe they're trying to go more mainstream like Fire Emblem did.
Well Awakening didn't really have female characters that were basically just for fan service, Fates is a different story.
 
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Well Awakening didn't really have female characters that were basically just for fan service, Fates is a different story.
I'd argue that Tharja, Olivia, and Nowi would qualify, though the former two are at least somewhat justified (one is a sorceress living in the middle of a desert, so wearing breathable clothing is expected, plus Validar had something similar, while Olivia is a dancer so being a bit more showy isn't too much of an eye opener).

No excuse for Nowi though...especially getting into the squickiness of it.
 
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Maybe they're trying to go more mainstream like Fire Emblem did.
Fire Emblem survived because of advertisements rather than designs.

Also, if any of Nintendo's newer female characters are any indication, I think it's Nintendo knowing their audience. Especially with the amount of attention their female characters have been getting lately.
 

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I personally don't have any real problem with Pyra's design. A little skin never hurt anybody. Rex, ok the other hand, has some pretty stupid looking clothes. Those short shorts with huge boots and the three belts or whatever those are just look ridiculous.
 

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I'd argue that Tharja, Olivia, and Nowi would qualify, though the former two are at least somewhat justified (one is a sorceress living in the middle of a desert, so wearing breathable clothing is expected, plus Validar had something similar, while Olivia is a dancer so being a bit more showy isn't too much of an eye opener).

No excuse for Nowi though...especially getting into the squickiness of it.
Honestly I forgot about Nowi mainly cause i'd always turn her into a Wyvern Knight. Yeah she was weird and very inappropriately dressed for someone that looked 13 at best.
 

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Honestly I'm not gonna get the game either way
Honestly I don't think any of us see it as a deal breaker.

Its just kind of lame.

Though who knows, maybe she'll be super well written.
 

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I don't mind her design, but I don't love it either.

But Imma get pissed if she gets a figma before mah boi Shulk.
 

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I personally don't have any real problem with Pyra's design. A little skin never hurt anybody. Rex, ok the other hand, has some pretty stupid looking clothes. Those short shorts with huge boots and the three belts or whatever those are just look ridiculous.
I'd argue that it does harm, but not in the way you think. In a vacuum, Pyra's design is "just a little skin" (which it really isn't but I digress), but when looking at female character design as a whole, she is but one more character who's sex appeal is amped up for no reason other than to be sexy in an industry absolutely flooded with them. She is nothing more than an object and that's a major issue.

inb4: Someone mentions how guys are objectified too

There is so much more variety for the design of male characters, being designed for sex appeal isn't the standard, it's just a decision. Whereas for female characters deviating from conventional beauty norms is such a rarity, it's ridiculous.
 

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I don't see any problems with Pyra's design either, maybe I'm oblivious to anything "fanservice-y".

Though I can see how the overall style of XC2 can be off-putting to some.
 

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She is nothing more than an object and that's a major issue.
I agree its a problem but I'm gonna wait till I see her writing before I call her an object.

I like to get the whole picture before I write off characters.
 

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