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Also, Wonder Woman suuuuuuuuucked....
The movie is good but not great. Though it did really change the world of movies for the best it didn't do anything spectacularly different with the genre other than the female lead. Not to undermine Gadot's performance. It was stellar. It's just, I think people saw the movie and said 'Oh **** a good female led superhero movie! This must be the best superhero movie ever then.' It's quickly becoming overrated and I really don't want that to happen to this movie. It's a good movie but when I hear people asking others if it's good it's not a 'Yeah it was really good. You should see it.' it's more of a 'OH MAH GAWD IS BEST MOVIE EVAAAAR! IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YOUR MISSING OUT ON LIFE' obviously I'm exaggerating but my girlfriend told my sister something close and my sister walked out disappointed. She pointed out the overuse of slowmotion, the length, and the way too superhero melodrama ending.View attachment 130867
Well, let's just agree to disagree, shall we? No need to go into a debate that will not change the opinion of the other, am I right guys?![]()
Calling any movie "The Best Movier Evar" is always going to lead you to dissapointement in any case. Not just superheroes movie, any media for that matter, video games, manga, etc... For me, I didn't know jack**** about Wonder Woman before I saw it, and when I saw it with my family, it was pretty good! I love it! But of course, there is flaw in it, but that's normal, everything has some flaw in it. And some peoples are going to put be put off by those flaw. (The slow motion, the final battle, etc..) And that's normal, I mean, people can love ****ty movie even tough they are extremely flawed. Just because there is some point in the movie that they enjoy. Is this wrong to like movie like Twilight if you have enjoyement in it? No, as long you aren't a fanboy that overlook all the problem of the film, you can enjoy it as a guilty pleasure because, hey, it's you. Same for good movies, is this wrong to dislike a movie that is considered very good? No, as long as you can see why people enjoy that movie and the quality it does have, you can say that you didn't enjoy it because of the plot, the character, the action, etc...The movie is good but not great. Though it did really change the world of movies for the best it didn't do anything spectacularly different with the genre other than the female lead. Not to undermine Gadot's performance. It was stellar. It's just, I think people saw the movie and said 'Oh **** a good female led superhero movie! This must be the best superhero movie ever then.' It's quickly becoming overrated and I really don't want that to happen to this movie. It's a good movie but when I hear people asking others if it's good it's not a 'Yeah it was really good. You should see it.' it's more of a 'OH MAH GAWD IS BEST MOVIE EVAAAAR! IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YOUR MISSING OUT ON LIFE' obviously I'm exaggerating but my girlfriend told my sister something close and my sister walked out disappointed. She pointed out the overuse of slowmotion, the length, and the way too superhero melodrama ending.
Everyone needs to cool it about the quality of the movie. Yeah, it's good and it did a lot for the genre but it's very very quickly speeding up to the line of overrated. I don't want that to happen to this movie. It's too revolutionary for that kind of status.
I sawTree Gelbman 's post above and was just thinking about this. Thought I would go ahead and get this off my chest.
I'm just being completely honest, I don't let the general mass opinions sway more one way or another.View attachment 130867
Well, let's just agree to disagree, shall we? No need to go into a debate that will not change the opinion of the other, am I right guys?![]()
in that case, let's all agree that it was still better than BvS. (Or any of the DCCU movie for that matter)Eh, Captain America's a bit lame too. I find him pretty unrepeatable when it comes to how he came to be a hero, and it's due to one major flaw: How he became zero to hero. That being that he's literally gifted super powers. Not only does he not put effort into achieving such power and skill, but even receiving powers by accident or even being born with them is something I find more relateable than flat out being gifted them. It's not like his intentions to go to fight for his country were bad or anything, they're relatable, but hmmm...
I do see what @Shishœ is saying though, I mean, Captain American in his dayview WAS propaganda. Not that Captain America's character is blindly loyal to the USA.Hail Hydra : ^ )
And I respect military men and women for putting themselves out there protect other people. But that still doesn't change how I feel about the military in general. It's good for show more than anything, so that other countries don't attack due to fear and risk.
And men and women in the military are usually used as a moral shield WAY too much, especially in defense of wasteful wars and blind nationalism.
I'm just being completely honest, I don't let the general mass opinions sway more one way or another.
And not only does my entire family agree with me, but people around us in the theater thought it sucked too judging by how they were reacting to it.
I don't know, maybe we all saw a different movie.
It has nothing to do with how highly rated the movie is, I love many highly rated and praised films. And I came into the movie with a neutral mindset.
That's hardly the point of constructive criticism. It's not about the enjoyment you get from a movie it's about the quality. I can get enjoyment out of any movie if I search hard enough. There's something to enjoy in every movie. It's about examining a movie and seeing what was done in this movie that will inspire movies to come. Without criticising, without describing the reasons a movie is good or bad, without that movies would lose their way. No one would want to better themselves and we would constantly get mediocre and bad movies. What's the point in following someone with passion and risk when you can throw out another remake, another sequel, another action movie and make money anyways.Calling any movie "The Best Movier Evar" is always going to lead you to dissapointement in any case. Not just superheroes movie, any media for that matter, video games, manga, etc... For me, I didn't know jack**** about Wonder Woman before I saw it, and when I saw it with my family, it was pretty good! I love it! But of course, there is flaw in it, but that's normal, everything has some flaw in it. And some peoples are going to put be put off by those flaw. (The slow motion, the final battle, etc..) And that's normal, I mean, people can love ****ty movie even tough they are extremely flawed. Just because there is some point in the movie that they enjoy. Is this wrong to like movie like Twilight if you have enjoyement in it? No, as long you aren't a fanboy that overlook all the problem of the film, you can enjoy it as a guilty pleasure because, hey, it's you. Same for good movies, is this wrong to dislike a movie that is considered very good? No, as long as you can see why people enjoy that movie and the quality it does have, you can say that you didn't enjoy it because of the plot, the character, the action, etc...
Really, it's a question of perspective. And this is the reason why I dislike debate in general, everyone have different taste. And in the end of the day, there is always peoples that are going to dislike things I love to death. So really, I rather talk about rainbow and Brawl tripping than talking about what is good or not.
Nah, at most I'm just bating Shisho just for the sake of discussion.in that case, let's all agree that it was still better than BvS. (Or any of the DCCU movie for that matter)View attachment 130871
Nah really, look at my previous post, it's fine if you think the movie is bad. As long as you don't try to ruin the enjoyement of other had with it. You can say it suck all you want or you just didn't enjoy it. It's your opinion, and nobody can change it if you really didn't like the film.
Tough, if you do say one day that Suicide Squad was a good movie. I think I might call Jotaro on that.![]()
Well, yeah, I agree. There need to be critic to difference what make a movie actually good and bad. I was more talking about peoples that have different opinion to share them but still respect the opinion of the other. Or else, it goes into mindless debate that you can abridge to:That's hardly the point of constructive criticism. It's not about the enjoyment you get from a movie it's about the quality. I can get enjoyment out of any movie if I search hard enough. There's something to enjoy in every movie. It's about examining a movie and seeing what was done in this movie that will inspire movies to come. Without criticising, without describing the reasons a movie is good or bad, without that movies would lose their way. No one would want to better themselves and we would constantly get mediocre and bad movies. What's the point in following someone with passion and risk when you can throw out another remake, another sequel, another action movie and make money anyways.
My point with Wonder Woman is that it's constantly getting praised for the sole sake of it being a female lead. And in doing so this could cause studios to be all 'Oh people just want female lead' which could very easily lead into ****ty and sexist female led movies. They won't realize that oh people like seeing a GOOD FEMALE SUPERHERO in a GOOD SUPERHERO MOVIE unless we criticize what the movies did wrong while acknowledging what they did right. Remember when Batman Begins and Dark Knight came out? Studios and Comic companies thought 'Oh people want Dark Brooding stories make more of those' and then we get Man of Steel, BvS, and the mess that is Suicide Squad. NO we don't want that we want good movies that have people with PASSION behind the cameras.
It's not enough to just like or dislike a movie otherwise we'd be in a world of movies where every thing that's put out is simply there just to make money. People fail to realize more often than not that movies are art and art is meant to be beloved, preserved. That's not the way most studios think. They think money and that's all.
There you go! That's what I meant!Nah, at most I'm just bating Shisho just for the sake of discussion.
I'm just one dude on the internet that uses his hard earned $850 internship money to buy homoerotic male stripper dolls along with homoerotic punch ghost dolls, which people will question why I own and have them on my shelves. But the thing is I won't care, you know why?Because I'm extremely confident about my sexualityBecause I enjoy what I enjoy, and enjoying what I enjoy is one of my favorite things to do.
I don't mind what anyone else enjoys as long as it doesn't harm me or anything that concerns me.Unless it's Suicide Squad : ^ )So good job Wonder Woman for having a highly acclaimed and successful film loved by many.
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Nah, actually, it objectively sucks. You know why? IT DIDNT HAVE THE THEME!!!!
****ING HELL THIS THEME MAKES ME SO ****ING AROUSED **** IT SHOULD HAVE PLAYED DURING EVERY CLIMAX OF THE MOVIE AND THE END CREDITS IF THEY INCLUDED THIS IT WOULDVE GOTTEN 192% NOT A LOW *** 92%
Faye I made a pegasus knight and Grey a cavalier. The others I'm keeping what I chose but these 2 I'm changing. Faye will be a cleric and Grey a mercenary.What did you change them into the first time?
More like:Y'all movies are bad. Get over it.
NOPE NOPE NOPEY'all movies are bad. Get over it.
Alucard, you favourite movie is ****, so is my favourite movie if I even had one. Now, get over it, and get on the high dive.NOPE NOPE NOPE
Did you just call ALL movies bad? Clearly you have not seen movies like Down and Dirty Duck which is like a ****post before ****posts were even a thing.
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This is real art.
I can feel your pain bro. Note to myself, don't get into debate in the morning, it's not worth it.How did my simple post of being a massive Wonder Woman fan who adored the movie turn into this?
I won't get into details or multi paragraph reasons as to why, because it's 5 in the morning and I'm tired as **** but I just gotta say as someone who loves the character has for years.
The only thing that bugs me is when someone chalks the movies sucess and people liking it to being the first good female superhero movie and for me at least? You could not be more off base and I'm sure that's true of millions of others.
Now I'm going the **** to bed....hopefully.
Edit: God. I said I wouldn't do multi paragraph post. Did one anyways. **** me.
Paragraphs are mor than two sentences silly.How did my simple post of being a massive Wonder Woman fan who adored the movie turn into this?
I won't get into details or multi paragraph reasons as to why, because it's 5 in the morning and I'm tired as **** but I just gotta say as someone who loves the character has for years.
The only thing that bugs me is when someone chalks the movies sucess and people liking it to being the first good female superhero movie and for me at least? You could not be more off base and I'm sure that's true of millions of others.
Now I'm going the **** to bed....hopefully.
Edit: God. I said I wouldn't do multi paragraph post. Did one anyways. **** me.
I never said that Down and Dirty Duck was my favorite movie. It's close, but the best movie ever made is probably Heavy Traffic or something.Alucard, you favourite movie is ****, so is my favourite movie if I even had one. Now, get over it, and get on the high dive.
I can feel your pain bro. Note to myself, don't get into debate in the morning, it's not worth it.![]()
Why am I researching a pornographic movie featuring a cartoon duck at 2 in the morning? God damn it; I hate my life.NOPE NOPE NOPE
Did you just call ALL movies bad? Clearly you have not seen movies like Down and Dirty Duck which is like a ****post before ****posts were even a thing.
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This is real art.
I said I was tired Swamp.Paragraphs are mor than two sentences silly.
There were no paragraphs there.![]()
It's still **** tough.I never said that Down and Dirty Duck was my favorite movie. It's close, but the best movie ever made is probably Heavy Traffic or something.
Thank you 1000 times for this wonderful gif."Say some Smashboards user is dissing yo fly movie."
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I'm the most powerful member here. My power is to make people check out weird stuff.Why am I researching a pornographic movie featuring a cartoon duck at 2 in the morning? God damn it; I hate my life.
Thank you 1000 times for this wonderful gif.
God bless you man.
Good ****, GOOD ****, THAT'S SOME GOOD **** RIGHT THERE IF I SAY SO.I'm the most powerful member here. My power is to make people check out weird stuff.
Anyway, since we've been on the subject, I mine as well that hate it when people think they're intellectual because they dislike something popular.(*CoughE;RCough* Which is why I made it extra clear that me disliking Wonder Woman is nothing political and not due to its popularity.)
Say some GANG-STAR is dissing your usage of a dank meme... Ya just give them one of these.
Calling your mother "it" is pretty rude.I said I was tired Swamp.
God! Leave me alone you're it my mother!
God!
Say some Joestar is dissing your hand girl... Ya just give them one of these.Good ****, GOOD ****, THAT'S SOME GOOD **** RIGHT THERE IF I SAY SO.
But I disagree, say that, some MEME-STAR is dissing your usage of janky meme...Just give them one of these.
Alright, last one for now. Because we are going to get problem if we continue here, but...Say some Joestar is dissing your hand girl... Ya just give them one of these.
Well, since this'll be my last one too....Alright, last one for now. Because we are going to get problem if we continue here, but...
Say some impostor is dissing your cherries...Just give them one of these.
Byutiful, what a beautiful duwang/10, What a way to go on a high note.Well, since this'll be my last one too....
Say some Joestar dissing the ultimate lifeform.... Just give them one of these!
Even The Devil Inside? I just thought that movie was utter Toss. Then again, I do legitimately enjoy Wild Wild West with Will Smith so who am I to say anything about a movie's quality?There's something to enjoy in every movie.