Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

[MF Viewtiful]

Well, I can't stop you in the end of the day. Whether you like it or not, free speech does not come with freedom from critique. In matter of fact, speech and critique go hand in hand.

 

[Deleted member]

Helpful guide as for when to use "it"
Is it a living being?
No?->Use it
Yes?->Go to the next question
Are you referring to the species in general?
Yes?->You can use it
No?->Go to the next question
Is it intelligent?
No?->You can use it
Yes?->Go to the next question
Are you an asshole?
Yes?->Use it
No?->Don't use it

 

[MF Viewtiful]

Before anyone says anything about it btw, it's not about political correctness or whatever the fools call it nowadays. It's about being a considerate person and respecting the lives of others.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Sorry I want to call something something you all dont agree with I guess? :/ meh?

to bad that wont stop me

 

[Opossum]

Before anyone says anything about it btw, it's not about political correctness or whatever the fools call it nowadays. It's about being a considerate person and respecting the lives of others.

I still don't get how political correctness became a bad thing to what seems to be a good portion of the Internet. How dare people be considerate, right?

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

I'll need either a nice dinner or a better pickup line.

I have a level 100 charizard baby

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

My sister's friend is a savage.

My sister has a bunch of friends over, and they're doing drama practice.

This one friend in particular says while trying to imitate Trump: "Don't fall for Hillary Clinton! How can she satisfy America, if she can't satisfy her own husband?!"

 

[MF Viewtiful]

I still don't get how political correctness became a bad thing to what seems to be a good portion of the Internet. How dare people be considerate, right?

Me neither. Then again people always feared and ostracized those they considered "other" if that makes any sense. Probably all this is just the latest manifestation of that.

 

[Kurri ★]

I still don't get how political correctness became a bad thing to what seems to be a good portion of the Internet. How dare people be considerate, right?

People want to be asshole without the consequences. If you call some people out for saying something offensive, they'll cry that you're not respecting their free speech and being too politically correct. Free speech means I'm free to say you're inconsiderate of others.

 

[Soul.]

Is using "it" for when referring to Pokémon bad?

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry I want to call something something you all dont agree with I guess? :/ meh?

to bad that wont stop me

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing, it's about respecting someone else's rights
I doubt you would want to be called by something that disrespects your existence so please be considerate

I still don't get how political correctness became a bad thing to what seems to be a good portion of the Internet. How dare people be considerate, right?

People will complain saying it's their right as free speech
But when that "free speech" disrespects someone's existence, it's not free speech anymore
You don't have the right to offend anyone, that is called hate speech

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I still don't get how political correctness became a bad thing to what seems to be a good portion of the Internet. How dare people be considerate, right?

It's the authoritarian enforcement and labelling people as bigots, etc to drag their name through mud or dismiss someone completely that's the problem

Not all of us like living under an authoritarian entity that controls the usage of language like something out of Orwell's nightmares

 

[Opossum]

Is using "it" for when referring to Pokémon bad?

IMO that one really depends, mainly since most Pokémon seem to be closer to non-sapient animals than anything else, so "it" is usually fine.

Basically just use whatever you'd use for your pets when it comes to Pokémon.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing, it's about respecting someone else's rights
I doubt you would want to be called by something that disrespects your existence so please be considerate

People will complain saying it's their right as free speech
But when that "free speech" disrespects someone's existence, it's not free speech anymore
You don't have the right to offend anyone, that is called hate speech

Hate speech is protected under freedom of speech

 

[MF Viewtiful]

It's the authoritarian enforcement and labelling people as bigots, etc to drag their name through mud or dismiss someone completely that's the problem

Not all of us like living under an authoritarian entity that controls the usage of language like something out of Orwell's nightmares

It's not authoritarian when it's your fellow peers and not the government telling you that.It come with the territory.

 

[Ura]

now thats kinda creepy

that sounds so stalkerish pff

Really didn't mean to creep people out with that. Just meant that I tend to glance at a chick a bit but it's not like i'm eyeing them up or making them feel uncomfortable. It's just something my subconscious mind does. Reckon it's just me being a 20-something year old and shiz.

Discussion about guys looking at girls butts
Add that to the list of things i thought i never see on smashboards

I didn't even say that lol. I never look at people's junk, for real.

 

[Z25]

Is using "it" for when referring to Pokémon bad?

Probably not. There's genderless ones, or ones that may be hard to identify at first.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing, it's about respecting someone else's rights
I doubt you would want to be called by something that disrespects your

main difference is, Birdo doesnt exsist

But Ill just stop now and leave it at that

Just so you all know, just because I call a fake dinosour it, doesnt mean I call humans it

 

[Opossum]

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing, it's about respecting someone else's rights
I doubt you would want to be called by something that disrespects your existence so please be considerate

People will complain saying it's their right as free speech
But when that "free speech" disrespects someone's existence, it's not free speech anymore
You don't have the right to offend anyone, that is called hate speech

Psycho beat me to it, but yeah, sadly most if not all hate speech is protected under the first amendment.

In the US, anyway. Not sure if other countries have a hate speech clause.

 

[Deleted member]

Is using "it" for when referring to Pokémon bad?

I usually use "it" when referring to the Pokemon species and use he/she/they with a specific Pokemon such as a party member

Hate speech is protected under freedom of speech

No, it is not
"Governments restrict speech with varying limitations. Common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander,obscenity, pornography, sedition,incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, theright to privacy, the right to be forgotten,political correctness, public security,public order, public nuisance, campaign finance reform, perjury, and oppression"

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's not authoritarian when it's your fellow peers and not the government telling you that.It come with the territory.

I was always told growing up not to give in to peer pressure.

It's authoritian when the government starts enforcing it though, which they do/ are beginning to

Psycho beat me to it, but yeah, sadly most if not all hate speech is protected under the first amendment.

In the US, anyway. Not sure if other countries have a hate speech clause.

Some European countries do

 

[Ura]

Also about the whole PC topic there's a slippery slope. While it most certainly does exist in the world hate mongers use it as an excuse to justify their nonsense as a safety net of sorts so that people can take their BS seriously when they really shouldn't.

 

[Jaedrik]

I still don't get how political correctness became a bad thing to what seems to be a good portion of the Internet. How dare people be considerate, right?

It's not so much that--rather, the great revolt against political correctness is when people shame, belittle, marginalize, otherwise attempt to humiliate or harass, and suppress those who dare to not be 'considerate.'

 

[MF Viewtiful]

Psycho beat me to it, but yeah, sadly most if not all hate speech is protected under the first amendment.

In the US, anyway. Not sure if other countries have a hate speech clause.

Look hate speech is protected under the law. But we the people have the power to stop that stuff and its influence in its track mind you. It's not always easy but it's all part of living in a society that is both free and yet tolerant to all peoples.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I usually use "it" when referring to the Pokemon species and use he/she/they with a specific Pokemon such as a party member

No, it is not
"Governments restrict speech with varying limitations. Common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander,obscenity, pornography, sedition,incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, theright to privacy, the right to be forgotten,political correctness, public security,public order, public nuisance, campaign finance reform, perjury, and oppression"

https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...1030-story,amp.html?client=ms-android-verizon

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...he-first-amendment/?client=ms-android-verizon

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

The worst thing about any Document is that there is always somewhere somehow a loophole. Even the ****ing U.S. constitution.

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

Really didn't mean to creep people out with that. Just meant that I tend to glance at a chick a bit but it's not like i'm eyeing them up or making them feel uncomfortable. It's just something my subconscious mind does. Reckon it's just me being a 20-something year old and shiz.

I didn't even say that lol. I never look at people's junk, for real.

I look at butts. Proud assnostic believing in the power the booty 2016 yes sir

 

[Deleted member]

Psycho beat me to it, but yeah, sadly most if not all hate speech is protected under the first amendment.

In the US, anyway. Not sure if other countries have a hate speech clause.

Wait, you mean to tell me the US actually allows hate speech as freesom of speech? Geez, no wonder there are so many people on there that think they have the right to say the first **** that pops up in their mind
But yeah, here in Brazil, freedom of spedch is allowed "as long as it doesn't disrespects the existence of an individual or a group of individuals"
Not that most follow it, but at least it's there in the Constitution

https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...1030-story,amp.html?client=ms-android-verizon

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...he-first-amendment/?client=ms-android-verizon

If you're gonna tell me we're gonna follow US legislation in this forum, instead of what is much more common(and logical), then I believe I can say that if there's one thing I hate more than anything, it's people who think they are in the right by offending someone like that
And that includes a good part of the US, you and the idiots that wrote the first amendment or whatever it's called
Have a good ****ing night

 

[Ura]

I look at butts. Proud assnostic believing in the power the booty 2016 yes sir

Well to each their own I guess. That shiz is not for me.

 

[Aetheri]

As far as I'm concerned all of you are nothing more than a collection of pixels on a screen, so you're all 'its' to me then...


Really though, what's the issue? If you know the gender use the appropriate proverbs, if not then use 'it' or 'them', 'they', 'their', etc....unless you want to look like a dolt...regardless if you're being polite or not, it's just common sense...

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

Well to each their own I guess. That shiz is not for me.

But the shiz is? Alright its cool then

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

If only the Discord chat were this crazy. Oh well, that's due to me being late as always.

Off to bed I guess.

 

[Solfiner]

"The first amendment lets me say whatever I want!" is about as compelling of an argument as "LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU".

Thank god Sweden puts hate speech as slander legally.

 

[Kurri ★]

Wait, you mean to tell me the US actually allows hate speech as freesom of speech? Geez, no wonder there are so many people on there that think they have the right to say the first **** that pops up in their mind
But yeah, here in Brazil, freedom of spedch is allowed "as long as it doesn't disrespects the existence of an individual or a group of individuals"
Not that most follow it, but at least it's there in the Constitution

If you're gonna tell me we're gonna follow US legislation in this forum, instead of what is much more common(and logical), then I believe I can say that if there's one thing I hate more than anything, it's people who think they are in the right by offending someone like that
And that includes a good part of the US, you and the idiots that wrote the first amendment or whatever it's called
Have a good ****ing night

Not all hate speech is bad. Martin Luther Kings Jr's speeches used to be considered hate speech during his prime. Nowadays we look at it as something to live by.

 

[Ura]

Not all hate speech is bad. Martin Luther Kings Jr's speeches used to be considered hate speech during his prime. Nowadays we look at it as something to live by.

Hate speech by very twisted moral standards of course.

 

[Jaedrik]

Justice would best be served if there was a common law and private arbitration attempting to discern what constitutes aggression with speech against a civil entity and what restitution is proper in such cases. I think this would deal away with all the reasonable complaints against "freedom of speech" while allowing the highest degree of liberty, because it requires specific victims suffering specific and demonstrable harm from specific speech.

The worst thing about any Document is that there is always somewhere somehow a loophole. Even the ****ing U.S. constitution.

The loophole with any document: "We are the government, we make the law, we can interpret it however the hell we want even if it doesn't say that at all. It's a living, breathing document after all."

 

[MF Viewtiful]

At some point this whole conversation is going to go in circles. Some people aren't going to change their ways. Just a fact of life. We gotta move on and see another day.

Not all hate speech is bad. Martin Luther Kings Jr's speeches used to be considered hate speech during his prime. Nowadays we look at it as something to live by.

I mean it's all in who defines hate speech in the first place. Someone may even consider slight critique as hate speech. It's probably not the job of the government to decide that but us as citizens.

 

[Z25]

So I posted about my badges the other day. Here's something else that will be going with them:

Anyone think they have an idea of what they are being used for?

 

[Kurri ★]

Hate speech by very twisted moral standards of course.

Well of course, but the idea still stands. What may be considered controversial hate speech to one generation, may be considered the building blocks of another generation. The idea is to use your best judgement to recognize when something is just purely hate or may actually have some merit

 

[CroonerMike]

I thought this was a video game forum and not a ****ing political discussion. Seriously guys, just make a ****ing new thread for this **** or at least change this to NintenZone Politics 1.0.