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[Burruni]

Coro coro told us the starters and rockruff share a secret, although some people think it's they both have secrets. So something is up with the starters.

Corocoro said the starters have a secret when talking about Rockruff

http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/June.shtml

That's my memory being off.
Thanks guys.

We have a fish that evolves into an octopus...
A clam that evolves into one of two fish...
A pigeon that evolves into a pheasant...
A robin that evolves into a falcon...
A sparrow hawk thing that evolves into a heron hawk thing...
And a piranha that evolves into a shark...

A dog evolving into a wolf makes way more sense than all of these...

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My point was that a dog turning into a bigger dog comparatively made more sense than a dog evolving into a wolf....
Not that the current evos are leaps in understanding too grave for people.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Rule of the Internet #1336: "If it exists, people want it in Smash. No exceptions."

So WeirdChill.. errrr people want the Ultra Beasts in Smash?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That's my memory being off.
Thanks guys.



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My point was that a dog turning into a bigger dog comparatively made more sense than a dog evolving into a wolf....
Not that the current evos are leaps in understanding too grave for people.

But wolves and dogs are (basically) the same animal

Dogs have just been heavily breed to exhibit different traits by humans for thousands of years

That's why both wolves and dogs are Canis Lupus

Edit: It's why dogs and wolves can breed together without complications that say, a liger would have

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

My point was that a dog turning into a bigger dog comparatively made more sense than a dog evolving into a wolf....

Dogs and wolves are connected though so I think it makes perfect sence

 

[Aetheri]

The birds turning into other birds makes just as much as Rockruff. My gripe is that the designs are just too bland for my liking

Not really....

Domesticated dogs are a subspecies from wolves...Robins and Falcons are not related apart from being birds...
Canine->Canine=/=Bird->bird...

Its like saying it makes sense for a mouse to evolve into a Honey Badger...


Wait a sec...

 

[Ivander]

So WeirdChill.. errrr people want the Ultra Beasts in Smash?

"You say that like it's a bad thing."

 

[FalKoopa]

My point was that a dog turning into a bigger dog comparatively made more sense than a dog evolving into a wolf....
Not that the current evos are leaps in understanding too grave for people.

To be fair, wolf pups and dog pups aren't all that different (and Pokémon does simplify RL animals), so it's alright.

 

[Coricus]

You know. . .if the evolution determines forms based on time of day rather than by version, I think it might actually be kind of a neat idea.

If it's just locked by versions, it's just another trade incentive.

If it's determined by time of day, it gives you a reason to catch multiple Rockruff and potentially temporarily cancel evos so that you can wait until the right time of day to evolve it. If the starters are involved, that even gives you a reason to breed them other than for trade fodder.

Sure folks may feel one evo form may be better than another, but people have been picking favorites, so both are clearly worth the time to someone. If it's time of day based, then that's what it gives. Options.

And I think I'm warming up to Night already. Not as fluffy as Day, but there's a certain comical insanity to the look.

 

[Mythra]

Honestly I'll box the two Rockruff evos into oblivion, I didn't liked them.

On the other hand Sun Version got attractive by having the "Terra Formar Roach Mosquito Ultra Beast"

 

[Aetheri]

You know. . .if the evolution determines forms based on time of day rather than by version, I think it might actually be kind of a neat idea.

If it's just locked by versions, it's just another trade incentive.

If it's determined by time of day, it gives you a reason to catch multiple Rockruff and potentially temporarily cancel evos so that you can wait until the right time of day to evolve it. If the starters are involved, that even gives you a reason to breed them other than for trade fodder.

Sure folks may feel one evo form may be better than another, but people have been picking favorites, so both are clearly worth the time to someone. If it's time of day based, then that's what it gives. Options.

And I think I'm warming up to Night already. Not as fluffy as Day, but there's a certain comical insanity to the look.

That's what I've been thinking about the multipke starter evos rumours...its good because it gives more options for the player...
for example some people may like Popplio but hate the highly feminine form that wee in the starter leaks...whereas a second form that's more masculine or gender neutral may better appeal to them...while still having the feminine form for those that like it...

Guess that's one reason why Eevee's such a popular pokemon as well...people like Eevee and mostly everyone has their own preferences which evolution they like best...

 

[Chrono.]

Ah, missed that, I see. Then that's one down, 3 left standing...

Also assuming Rockruff's secret is the same as the starters, that means Day and Night Starter evos...

which is insane!

That's what I'm hoping.

...But now I'm seeing people say the original quote was mistranslated/misunderstood.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

So WeirdChill.. errrr people want the Ultra Beasts in Smash?

Nah man Oricorio and Rotomtom is where its at.
But Jellyfish Alien is fine too

 

[Arcanir]

In retrospect I probably should have thought to downplay things instead of simply sitting there getting hyped.

. . .But then, it's never really gotten to the point where even CoroCoro was treated as a disappointment. I had no idea what to expect.

We were promised Rockruff's evo, we got Rockruff's evo. Nothing else was promised.

There's another announcement thing in two days that may or may not show more.

I'm a bit divided on myself because Night Form doesn't really match my preferences that well but people going "Wow this sucks" to everything ever announced in a video game continues to wear on me a bit. But I was planning on getting Sun anyway, so I guess that's not entirely my dilemma if it ends up being version exclusive. Oh well. I just hope I don't have to hear about how much people hate the evos for too long, I might go crazy. . .er.

My real concern here is if this is the "secret" Rockruff shares with the starters.

The leaked starters strongly resemble Moon forms, so what would their Sun forms look like. . .?

It's definitely possible it is the secret, the starters were mentioned after Rockruff's secret was remarked on in its debut in the Corocoro magazine (though it should be noted that while they are grouped together, the quote doesn't say they share the secret, just that they both have them), and they did reuse that terminology when hinting at Rockruff's evolution for this issue, so it is possible for it to also be present with the starters. If that's the case, then I think each form will play into the different aspects of the starters. With Popplio for instance, its a performer, and we know its confirmed form is a singer, a type of performer. So I'd imagine the Day form (or Night) would be different example of that concept like either a Circus Seal or Acrobat. Rowlet's confirmed form plays into Archery, which is an aspect of it throwing leaves like knifes, so maybe its other form would play into a different type of ranged weapon and it could become something like an assassin. It is an option that would fit with the night, and it could contrast well with what is believed to be the day form. Litten is harder to place, Litten3 I'm pretty certain is the night form, but I'm not sure how they'd contrast the Heel wrestler with other characteristics with Litten's base form as other then its personality (cool and collection vs. loud and boisterious), there's not too many traits that could evolve too differently I think. I guess they could expand on the personality difference and make whatever day form it gets the calm and calculating tiger, kind of like Shere Khan in some interpretations, but I'm not sure on that.

The other option is of course Synchro/Z-forms of course, which is less fun to play around with, but it's still an aspect that they haven't really talked about that the starters could get.

 

[Coricus]

I had a phrase that Lugarugan's name reminded me of, Loup Garou, so I looked it up and it's Kalos French for werewolf.

I wonder what the last bit on the end stands for, though? Or what it's English name will be?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That's what I'm hoping.

...But now I'm seeing people say the original quote was mistranslated/misunderstood.

Does anyone here know Japanese?

Just have someone read what it says

 

[Aetheri]

I had a phrase that Lugarugan's name reminded me of, Loup Garou, so I looked it up and it's Kalos French for werewolf.

I wonder what the last bit on the end stands for, though? Or what it's English name will be?

I have looked into its etymology a bit...
Lu likely from Lupis (latin for wolf)
Garu likely from Garuru (japanese for Growl)

very likely is also derived from the french Loup Garou...in reference to its werewolf form...

Gan was a bit more difficult to narrow down though interestingly enough I found info on a chemical compound Gallium Nitrate (GaN)
Its primarily used in light-emittind diodes such as those fpund in Blu-Rays...but its also used in Solar Panels for satellites...

Lugarugan's day form evolves from Rockruff after it absorbs the sun's rays...as if it absorbed solar energy to evolve...

GaN is also a crystalline compound...kinda like a rock...

Still possible that it's referencing some other aspects I haven't found yet...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I have looked into its etymology a bit...
Lu likely from Lupis (latin for wolf)
Garu likely from Garuru (japanese for Growl)

Hence Garurumon

 

[Arcanir]

Does anyone here know Japanese?

Just have someone read what it says

Here's the translation from Bulbapedia:

"Rockruff hides a secret in its small body!! In fact your starter Pokemon hide a secret as well .

So they don't outright say it's shared, but it's still a possibility since they are grouped and Rockruff's turned out to be connected to its evolution.

 

[Z25]

That's what I'm hoping.

...But now I'm seeing people say the original quote was mistranslated/misunderstood.

True, but either way the starters to have a secret. Like the above statement they were grouped together which may or may not add to that possibility. If true, I can see us finding out soon enough. Perhaps when middle forms are revealed they will have these forms, or they could announce the finals have them, but that might be unlikely.

 

[Chrono.]

True, but either way the starters to have a secret. Like the above statement they were grouped together which may or may not add to that possibility. If true, I can see us finding out soon enough. Perhaps when middle forms are revealed they will have these forms, or they could announce the finals have them, but that might be unlikely.

They don't usually announce final forms for the starters until after the game is out. If so, that would be fun if we ended up finding out they have alternate forms on our own.

...Oh who am I kidding the entire game's just gonna end up getting leaked next month, isn't it?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

They don't usually announce final forms for the starters until after the game is out. If so, that would be fun if we ended up finding out they have alternate forms on our own.

...Oh who am I kidding the entire game's just gonna end up getting leaked next month, isn't it?

The game's getting fully leaked for me anyway because some ****head leaked XY and Pokken in my continent and I have to wait longer

 

[Soul.]

We're getting a slice of life Pokémon anime that focuses on the everyday lives of like, 5 characters with a slow-paced plot?
I mean, it could be interesting but... ehhh. We'll see if it gets ratings this way.

Also, Rockruff evolutions look real nice. Seems like they're just forms; I'm guessing they will have their own stats/typing, probably movepool as well?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

With this supposed change of pace it seems REALLY dumb for it to still be Ash. I mean I don't think Ash has slept under the same roof twice for the last 15 years.

I wonder if this is part of Pokemon of Japan's unhealthy Yokai Watch envy.

 

[Opossum]

Someone on Twitter edited some Civil War fight scenes with UMvC3 audio overplayed and it's hilarious.

Linked because of a smallish spoiler that some might find...giant.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Looks like the "split evos" leak is wrong after today's news. Here was the description:

Once it has learned Howl, you can choose to leave Rockruff by one of the four cliffs, one per island, overnight; it will have evolved when you return in the morning. The evolved form takes 1 Pokédex slot, but each island gives a different form with unique stats and typing (Rock/Dark, Rock/Fairy, Rock/Fighting/ Rock/Steel).

The leak also says the starters evolve depending on time of day. But given how detailed the Rockruff part was, it's extremely unlikely he simply got the evolution methods backwards.

 

[Chrono.]

With this supposed change of pace it seems REALLY dumb for it to still be Ash. I mean I don't think Ash has slept under the same roof twice for the last 15 years.

I think the anime writers just stopped giving ****s years ago.

Looks like the "split evos" leak is wrong after today's news. Here was the description: The leak also says the starters evolve depending on time of day. But given how detailed the Rockruff part was, it's extremely unlikely he simply got the evolution methods backwards.

Yeah it was just one of those few text rumors that actually got a couple things right on purpose.

But not exactly either, since they're description of Alolan Pokemon is much more vague (in fact in implied that the designs would only be slightly changed, which isn't really the case with the actual Alolan mons so far sans a couple).

Either way, the Rockruff part completely destroys it.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

With this supposed change of pace it seems REALLY dumb for it to still be Ash. I mean I don't think Ash has slept under the same roof twice for the last 15 years.

I wonder if this is part of Pokemon of Japan's unhealthy Yokai Watch envy.

Watch the Pokémon International Company rip off Geragerapo for the next anime opening.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I think the anime writers just stopped giving ****s years ago.

As did many fans from what I have seen/ heard from friends

some of my followers still plan on watching this new anime

 

[Wario Bros.]

I haven't cared what they do in the anime for years.

Ash could snort coke and kill hookers for all I care.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I haven't cared what they do in the anime for years.

Ash could snort coke and kill hookers for all I care.

Theres a gta mod for that

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I haven't cared what they do in the anime for years.

Ash could snort coke and kill hookers for all I care.

That should be the next anime

10 years later and Ash is a broken man from all his losses

 

[Yellowlord]

So... About today's CoroCoro leaks;

-Rockruff's day form evolution is awesome in my view! We actually have a Wolf Pokemon in the game now; as long as it gets a double type that's good, I might put it on my team. As for what I think about his night form, its ok (the whole idea around it being based off a werewolf is clever), but I don't recall Werewolfs being red at all. The red eyes, maybe, but not the red skin/fur.

-The new Ultra Beasts (Beauty and Expansion) are very interesting (Beauty is obviously based off Lusamine). As for Expansion, it could potentially be based off Gladion in terms of color scheme and slightly in appearance, but it's still debatable for the moment. Also.. the fact that its a buffed up mosquito makes me want to destroy it even more (people around the world hate them after all, especially in the U.S. and Japan).

-Welp, seems like Serena is out for the anime going to the Alola region; Ash is hitting the books and Serena will probably be stuck in Kalos. (I still hope Ash realizes that Serena likes her or Serena herself actually confesses. Yes, I know the anime is meant to be targeted mainly at a younger demographic, but I think its time we see a female character in Pokemon confess).

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, remember Whitney's Miltank amd how the fight was basically a RNG simulator with Attract+Stomp flinch? How about that but three times worse?

****ing god can be charmed by this ***** and have a 50% chance of moving
And now looking at UB-01's description, my bet is that it'll have a Transform-like move but it changes its form randomly

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I haven't cared what they do in the anime for years.

Ash could snort coke and kill hookers for all I care.

So THAT'S what happens after a Palossand EATS Pikachu

Watch the Pokémon International Company rip off Geragerapo for the next anime opening.

What do people even like about that ****ty opening?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Watch the Pokémon International Company rip off Geragerapo for the next anime opening.

So we get a **** wannabe Phineas and Ferb intro for the English version?

At least that's what's being used as opposed to the GOOD intro.

 

[Burruni]

Hey, remember Whitney's Miltank amd how the fight was basically a RNG simulator with Attract+Stomp flinch? How about that but three times worse?
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****ing god can be charmed by this ***** and have a 50% chance of moving
And now looking at UB-01's description, my bet is that it'll have a Transform-like move but it changes its form randomly

Charmed, what's that?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

but I don't recall Werewolfs being red at all. The red eyes, maybe, but not the red skin/fur.

Wolfssegner called

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Hey, remember Whitney's Miltank amd how the fight was basically a RNG simulator with Attract+Stomp flinch? How about that but three times worse?
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****ing god can be charmed by this ***** and have a 50% chance of moving
And now looking at UB-01's description, my bet is that it'll have a Transform-like move but it changes its form randomly

Regardless of gender? inb4 people think this means gay pokemon other than alolan meowth

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

So we get a **** wannabe Phineas and Ferb intro for the English version?

At least that's what's being used as opposed to the GOOD intro.

Hey, that's an insult to a better intro that is at least self aware as opposed to be a "wannabe Saturday morning cartoon".

What do people even like about that ****ty opening?

It's a good mixture of groovy and catchy. But I can understand why it's not as appealing as a JoJo opening.

 

[Yellowlord]

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Wolfssegner called

I guess there's that example, yeah. I just mean in the real world myths and legends about Werewolfs; shouldn't they be a mix of gray, black, and brown?