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Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

When, if ever, do you plan on buying the Switch?

  • At launch

    Votes: 40 36.0%
  • Late spring/summer

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • During the fall/holidays

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Sometime after 2017

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Not until [insert game here] is released

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • I'm not getting that bucket of turds!!

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
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See.
Primal evos for the fossils, Genosect, Kyurem, and such would be great.
But I have one major counter-argument.
I heard a theory that Aerodactyl's Mega is actually a Primal Reversion...

which is strange since Mega Evolution requires both the Mega stones and Keystones, but also a strong bond with a trainer...

Which shouldn't happen because Lucario was the first Mega with a trainer while Rayquaza was the first Mega period...Although it could make sense that the strong bond and stones brings about it's Primal form that it had before going extinct...
 

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I'm in a really bad state of mind right now guys...

I don't mean to bring drama and **** in here when we have enough of that already but I really don't know what else I would really rather do or anything like that, I dunno...

I just feel like I've never commited to a single thing in my entire life because I don't have the guts to put any effort into anything in my life. I'm 21 and working in a toy store for christ sake, I feel beyond pathetic. Not even the things I love most have ever warranted 100% effort from me.

I just... don't know anymore guys. I haven't been this mind-in-the-gutter in a long time and I don't know any way I or anyone else can pull it out. I think I just need to go to bed for now...
You can't give your all to everything.

Just word hard in everything. We can always do a bit more or do something differently.

But I guarantee, you're doing good enough.


And working in a toy store sounds like a great place to work. You're making children smile.
 

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I heard a theory that Aerodactyl's Mega is actually a Primal Reversion...

which is strange since Mega Evolution requires both the Mega stones and Keystones, but also a strong bond with a trainer...

Which shouldn't happen because Lucario was the first Mega with a trainer while Rayquaza was the first Mega period...Although it could make sense that the strong bond and stones brings about it's Primal form that it had before going extinct...
That's more or less what people think, that that was his true form before becoming a fossil.

Another theory is that Primal reversion was thought of after X/Y was released, so it couldn't be applied to Aerodactyl. Another thing is that Primal Reversions so far are used on Pokemon who were never fossilized. Or it could be just a Legendary thing, saved for the "Forces of Nature" like Groudon and Kyogre. The Kami Trio's Therian forms would make sense as similar concepts, they just came out way too early before Mega/Primal stuff was a thing.
 

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That's more or less what people think, that that was his true form before becoming a fossil.

Another theory is that Primal reversion was thought of after X/Y was released, so it couldn't be applied to Aerodactyl. Another thing is that Primal Reversions so far are used on Pokemon who were never fossilized. Or it could be just a Legendary thing, saved for the "Forces of Nature" like Groudon and Kyogre. The Kami Trio's Therian forms would make sense as similar concepts, they just came out way too early before Mega/Primal stuff was a thing.
Pretty case by case...so far Groudon and Kyogre (and dialga to an extent) are the only Pokemon to have Primal reversions...then you have Hoopa who then becomes Hoopa Unbound which is it's true form...that is basically a Primal form though it's a different case since it didn't lose it's power it's just contained...
 

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You can't give your all to everything.

Just word hard in everything. We can always do a bit more or do something differently.

But I guarantee, you're doing good enough.


And working in a toy store sounds like a great place to work. You're making children smile.
Toy store doesn't sound that bad.

I work in a job where I prevent people from being scammed and they hate me for doing it
 

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Pretty case by case...so far Groudon and Kyogre (and dialga to an extent) are the only Pokemon to have Primal reversions...then you have Hoopa who then becomes Hoopa Unbound which is it's true form...that is basically a Primal form though it's a different case since it didn't lose it's power it's just contained...
Well, if it's contained inside them, then it wouldn't work for a Fossil Pokemon. That's a full resurrection from the DNA inside the fossil itself. Mega Evolution might be the best option for them instead. Although one might note that only Aerodactyl is reverted from its original state when it becomes fossilized. Kabutops might be the original form of Kabuto, for instance. This could be why Fossils don't get a Mega normally, besides Aerodactyl. In a sense, Kabutops would be Kabuto's own Mega/original form before being fossilized.
 

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Hoatzin would make an interesting pokemon

When it's young, it ACTUALLY has claws. It can use the claws to climb trees. However, it looses them before it learns to fly

Scientists at first thought maybe the claws made it a missing link between birds and dinosaurs

BUT, it turns out the claws are a newer evolution
 

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I'd love to see a Mega Cherrim.

It's the perfect candidate for a Grass/Fire Pokemon. And it's main ability could be a combination of drought and an upgraded version of Flower Gift.
 
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I have so many Megas I'd love to see:
- Remaining starters (especially Torterra and Feraligatr)
- Arbok
- Nidoking
- Persian
- Ariados
- Crobat
- Qwilfish
- Seviper
- Zangoose
- Flygon
- Luxray
- Drapion
- Gliscor
- Krookodile
- Aegislash
- Tyrantrum

And here's some fanart (that I've posted to another thread before):

 

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I'm in a really bad state of mind right now guys...

I don't mean to bring drama and **** in here when we have enough of that already but I really don't know what else I would really rather do or anything like that, I dunno...

I just feel like I've never commited to a single thing in my entire life because I don't have the guts to put any effort into anything in my life. I'm 21 and working in a toy store for christ sake, I feel beyond pathetic. Not even the things I love most have ever warranted 100% effort from me.

I just... don't know anymore guys. I haven't been this mind-in-the-gutter in a long time and I don't know any way I or anyone else can pull it out. I think I just need to go to bed for now...
Something that always makes me feel great about myself is making people happy. It's one of the reasons I desperately wanted a job, the other reason was to feel useful. Remember a while ago you talked about a kid that asked about Yokai Watch stuff? Think about times like that, making kids excited. And about the 100% effort thing. I have that too. I LOVE Daredevil yet it's been weeks since I last watched it. Hell, when I first watched Jojo, I loved it! Then I stopped after the fifth episode for no reason and didn't watch it in over a year. And finally, *hug* make sure you rest up, and remember, people are there for you if you need them.
Y'know, maybe people making art of potential megas is not a good thing

If Nintendo actually used one if their ideas. Or their own idea that happened to look like someone else's.

Potentially hell raised and lawsuits as the artist demands credit/ compensation

Nintendo might go out of their way to avoid looking like an other artists work, stifling their designs
Dorkly was fairly accurate with Mega Alakazam, but they got the EXACT same design for Mega Slowbro
 
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Let me ruin that memory of yours, by reminding you of all the great sequels :troll:
A little late but, I remember loving the sequels too, then again, I was a kid and I onlt watched, what? About 10 of them? They were still all on VHS at the time
 

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I'm in a really bad state of mind right now guys...

I don't mean to bring drama and **** in here when we have enough of that already but I really don't know what else I would really rather do or anything like that, I dunno...

I just feel like I've never commited to a single thing in my entire life because I don't have the guts to put any effort into anything in my life. I'm 21 and working in a toy store for christ sake, I feel beyond pathetic. Not even the things I love most have ever warranted 100% effort from me.

I just... don't know anymore guys. I haven't been this mind-in-the-gutter in a long time and I don't know any way I or anyone else can pull it out. I think I just need to go to bed for now...
As someone who is also 21 and kind of feels the same way, it's normal to feel this way.

In today's economic climate, it's hard enough to find a job as it is (though maybe that's just in Ireland at the moment), which can make commitment difficult. In part because it's hard to find something to commit to. Like, I say to myself all of the time that "I wanna draw this" or "I wanna get into Smash modding" and things like that, and I only bring myself to do them 10% of the time. Committing to these things takes time and effort, and while it does build up my skills and I am passionate about doing them, I get little else in return for doing them. They don't make me money. And I don't even have many friends online or offline to appreciate my work and I can never seem to get it to spread around publicly. And committing to these things feels like it's not worth it because of the amount of time I have to commit.

And then when I commit to the job search, I just don't find anything. That's a whole other issue but it's the one thing that immediately seems worth the commitment and I can't get it.

Things are looking up for me though, as I got an offer to take a course in Cloud Computing for the next year, which gives me something to commit to, possibly will allow me to get back to my game design courses after, and at the least, will bring me more job opportunities. Maybe I'll also make new friends.

I'm not sure if what I am saying helps at all, but I think you'd do well to put your all into that job of yours for the time being. To be frank, you're lucky to have it and I'm honestly a little jealous since I applied to my local toy store multiple times and never so much as got called back for an interview. For all I know, my CV never made it to the manager. So know that there are a lot of people like me that would kill to have the job you have.

And if that job is paying well, that's even more reason to be motivated to do your best at it.

Up until now, I've just been flip-flopping around with different things, trying to keep myself busy, since I finished my last college course, which was a failure (though that wasn't really my fault, the course was fundamentally broken and the tutors did some stupid things that sabotaged my marks, same with other students, and I had other problems that year, like health problems). I stay indoors most of the time and don't get to hang out with friends that often. And to be honest, the only reason I still come to this thread, is because I need SOME sort of echo chamber for my thoughts, mostly on video games.

But the main point here is that I understand where you're coming from and your situation is normal. We're both at an age where we are legally adults, but will either still be in college getting educated just like we've been doing our whole lives until now, or we're looking for any old job to save up the money to go back to education. Unless you come from a rich family or one with major connections, it's completely normal to be in this position of not knowing what to do with yourself, and although we are legally viewed as adults, we can't reasonably be expected to have our lives all sorted out and be living by ourselves, at this age, it's just not the way things play out for most people. Most people don't find their footing in life and start feeling sure of where they are going, until they are 23, at the least.

So don't worry too much about things for now. You have a decent job, one that gives you room to grow. You're honestly doing better than a lot of us 21 year olds. :p
 
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Just remember that you need to enjoy doing something, that will help you get committed. Otherwise you'll end up losing any motivation really quickly.

Although, you shouldn't worry too much, opportunities present themselves once you start looking. Finding a satisfying job isn't easy these days, so your situation is pretty normal. Cheer up.

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I forgot about Mega Arcanine as well. We need a Mega Arcanine with Combustion as it's Ability. Makes all Normal-type Moves into Fire-type and increases their damage. Fire-type Extreme Speed, anyone?
With an ability like that, who needs Flare Blitz? Oh right, Flare Blitz would still pack more power.

When you spend an hour trying to figure out how to mod your 3DS but it turns out you can't unless you go through a series of ordeals because Smashhax is literally rocket science.
It's more troubling for the people who don't own a New Nintendo 3DS, as your exploit choices are limited to just one game right now.
 

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Hey, can we all just take a moment and all agree that the main theme of The Wonderful 101 sounds like an opening for a Saturday morning cartoon?
 

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With an ability like that, who needs Flare Blitz? Oh right, Flare Blitz would still pack more power.
The abilities like Refrigerate and Aerialate also give a 30% boost alongside STAB, did you calculate that too? Even then, Espeed would be a better option as it keeps you alive longer because lolrecoil and it's +2 priority
 

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The irony about the final image is that wild fires aren't always man-made. They can also happen naturally, especially at the great plains of Africa during the dry season.
I know, they play a part in enriching the soil as well.

Doesn't detract from my point though. :p

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The abilities like Refrigerate and Aerialate also give a 30% boost alongside STAB, did you calculate that too? Even then, Espeed would be a better option as it keeps you alive longer because lolrecoil and it's +2 priority
80 +30% = 80 + 24 = 104 base.
120 = 120 base.

104 x 1.5 = 156
120 x 1.5 = 180

Yes, Flare Blitz is still stronger. By around 15% if my eyeball math is right.
 

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So it turns out that on Birthright Chapter 23, you aren't supposed to save Effie and Arthur, and you apparently don't get anything. The point of talking to them is that they can serve as decoys for you, and they aren't expected to survive the mission. Arthur's page on the FE Wiki even says "it is unknown what happens if Arthur survives this Chapter".

So I was about to give up on saving them, since the map is easy besides trying to do that.

Then I accidentally did this...




I think I could actually save them as long as Marth holds out at the top (he can't take another hit, but those Wyvern Riders only have a 20% hit rate on him, and he can kill them in two hits, one if he crits. And Lucina can block attacks for him every so often when the Dual Guard meter fills up). And as long as Camilla or one of the other Malig Knights doesn't go for Arthur...

...Pray for Marth and Arthur. Give them your energy.

EDIT: DAMNIT THE MAGE WENT FOR ARTHUR.

THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF HE HAD JUST RETREATED TOWARDS EFFIE.

DUMB A.I.
 
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I know.
I just wanted to put math to the powers.
And sometimes that power difference can mean a big difference between securing the KO or not. For one example, Brick Break may not have any drawbacks, but it can't KO things as efficiently as Close Combat.

And there are those who prefer Fire Blast over Flamethrower, as the power difference between the two is very noticeable whenever super effective damage is dealt.

90 * 2 = 180
110 * 2 = 220

The power difference becomes even greater whenever STAB is applied onto the equation.
 

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So it turns out that on Birthright Chapter 23, you aren't supposed to save Effie and Arthur, and you apparently don't get anything. The point of talking to them is that they can serve as decoys for you, and they aren't expected to survive the mission. Arthur's page on the FE Wiki even says "it is unknown what happens if Arthur survives this Chapter".

So I was about to give up on saving them, since the map is easy besides trying to do that.

Then I accidentally did this...




I think I could actually save them as long as Marth holds out at the top (he can't take another hit, but those Wyvern Riders only have a 20% hit rate on him, and he can kill them in two hits, one if he crits. And Lucina can block attacks for him every so often when the Dual Guard meter fills up). And as long as Camilla or one of the other Malig Knights doesn't go for Arthur...

...Pray for Marth and Arthur. Give them your energy.

EDIT: DAMNIT THE MAGE WENT FOR ARTHUR.

THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF HE HAD JUST RETREATED TOWARDS EFFIE.

DUMB A.I.
We must prepare a Marth/Arthur/Marthur Spirit Bomb.

Edit: WAKE ME UP INSIDE
 
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And sometimes that power difference can mean a big difference between securing the KO or not. For one example, Brick Break may not have any drawbacks, but it can't KO things as efficiently as Close Combat.

And there are those who prefer Fire Blast over Flamethrower, as the power difference between the two is very noticeable whenever super effective damage is dealt.

90 * 2 = 180
110 * 2 = 220

The power difference becomes even greater whenever STAB is applied onto the equation.
First of all, your calcs are wrong, you are applying Adaptability, as STAB is otherwise a 1.5 boost, second, your example, Brick Break, has a 45 BP difference with Close Combat iirc, and finally, you're forgetting utility. let's use Brick Break as an example as you used it. Your foeis using the Dual Screen Light Clay strategy, meaning any damage you do will be greatly reduced, Close Combat only makes it easier for them to knock you out. Brick Break is one of the only 3 ways to counter that strategy, so it's a better move in that situation, and when comparing ESpeed and Flare Blitz, ESpeed is better as it gives you more priority than most moves (Sucker Punch is also rendered useless as it needs to go first), it makes you faster than a majority of your opponents, and it gives you an edge in Trick Room. If you focus on raw power, you're doing it wrong
 

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We must prepare a Marth/Arthur/Marthur Spirit Bomb.

Edit: WAKE ME UP INSIDE
And then Marth and Lucina died too.

So now I have to reset.

If they at least survived, I would have just kept going but I have to pay for them so losing them is a big no-no.

I wanna see if having Effie at the end of the mission does anything though.
 

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First of all, your calcs are wrong, you are applying Adaptability, as STAB is otherwise a 1.5 boost, second, your example, Brick Break, has a 45 BP difference with Close Combat iirc, and finally, you're forgetting utility. let's use Brick Break as an example as you used it. Your foeis using the Dual Screen Light Clay strategy, meaning any damage you do will be greatly reduced, Close Combat only makes it easier for them to knock you out. Brick Break is one of the only 3 ways to counter that strategy, so it's a better move in that situation, and when comparing ESpeed and Flare Blitz, ESpeed is better as it gives you more priority than most moves (Sucker Punch is also rendered useless as it needs to go first), it makes you faster than a majority of your opponents, and it gives you an edge in Trick Room. If you focus on raw power, you're doing it wrong
In case you haven't noticed, the calculations are for "non-STABed super effective" damage, NOT from the Adaptability ability.

Also, power differences are very important to keep note of, because if you don't get the KO, your opponent could easily crush you right back.

For an example, you use Mega Lucario against Choice Band Aerodactyl, even with Adaptability, Mega Lucario is not guaranteed to 1-hit KO Aerodactyl with Bullet Punch, while Aerodactyl can easily 1-hit KO Mega Lucario with a Choice Band boosted Earthquake. And since Aerodactyl outspeeds Mega Lucario, Mega Lucario has to use Bullet Punch to get the first strike, so if the attack doesn't KO, Mega Lucario is a goner.
 

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In case you haven't noticed, the calculations are for "non-STABed super effective" damage, NOT from the Adaptability ability.

Also, power differences are very important to keep note of, because if you don't get the KO, your opponent could easily crush you right back.

For an example, you use Mega Lucario against Choice Band Aerodactyl, even with Adaptability, Mega Lucario is not guaranteed to 1-hit KO Aerodactyl with Bullet Punch, while Aerodactyl can easily 1-hit KO Mega Lucario with a Choice Band boosted Earthquake. And since Aerodactyl outspeeds Mega Lucario, Mega Lucario has to use Bullet Punch to get the first strike, so if the attack doesn't KO, Mega Lucario is a goner.
The discussion was moreso about raw power, not to mention again, you're wrong, as Super Effective is double damage unless it's applied with Solid Rock or Filter

In this scenario, we're judging a boosted ESpeed and a boosted Flare Blitz. You're conveniently forgetting that regular Arcanine already hits hard, and there would CLEARLY be a boost in Attack

Bullet Punch is only half as strong as ESpeed so this is flimsy, especially as switching is a thing that should be used if you're certain on Aerodactyl using Earthquake. Before you go "Oh, but what if you don't have anything that afford a hit?", if you don't have something against one of the most common moves in the game or no mon that can take physical hits, that's your fault for being bad
 

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Initially I wasn't going to post this, but if anyone's interested...

A while back I did some artwork for the Metroid Database and they recently made some Limited Edition buttons which features some of my artwork for Metroid creatures...
Here's the link to purchase said buttons but unfortunately its open only to US residents...

I really need to get back into painting though...
 

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The discussion was moreso about raw power, not to mention again, you're wrong, as Super Effective is double damage unless it's applied with Solid Rock or Filter
Why do I even bother coming here anymore. If these are the kinds of responses that I'll get for saying things that are correct, then I'm out of here.
 

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Why do I even bother coming here anymore. If these are the kinds of responses that I'll get for saying things that are correct, then I'm out of here.
Then make sure you're correct or explain yourself better. Especially as we had a hypothetical Arcanine with a 'fire-ate' ability, in which your statistics weren't correct
 

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So, how does anyone feel about the Minions from Despicable Me?

I find them alright, just as long as they don't take too much screen time unlike the Minions film.
In Despicable Me: They're dosed right and they can be pretty funny some times.

Everywhere else :


They must die!
 
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