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[LancerStaff]

Anyone else feel the alola forms are a sign this gen is going to have less pokemon?

Also I'm 100% convinced at this point there is no new megas

I believe the main leak said there'd be slightly more then X&Y which isn't bad, especially if they keep the quality up.

 

[Ura]

THEY GOT RID OF HMS! REJOICE!

Neat! The concept of calling Pokemon to perform various tasks sounds interesting.

Now I won't have to worry about being stuck with a move for a Pokemon that really doesn't need it. Although admittingly Surf is a really good move to use despite being an HM.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Although admittingly Surf is a really good move to use despite being an HM.

Well, hopefully it'll return as TM.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

THEY GOT RID OF HMS! REJOICE!

Awesome.

I hate HM's and they honestly just ruin movesets. It looks like we won't have to deal with Cut-related things anymore.

 

[Ura]

Well, hopefully it'll return as TM.

Yeah.

My hope with HM's gone is that TM's essentially become the new HM's in a sense that they can be used an infinite amount of times like HM's are. That way I won't have to worry about using a TM early or something.

 

[Deleted member]

THEY GOT RID OF HMS! REJOICE!

OH MY GOD
I ALREADY LOVE THIS GAME
I literally yelled on the inside today because I had to teach my Tyranitar Rock Climb in HeartGold today in order to get to Red. That is serious bull**** right there. I mean honestly HGSS were amazing games but the fact they were so HM heavy is one of my few problems with this game.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

My hope with HM's gone is that TM's essentially become the new HM's in a sense that they can be used an infinite amount of times like HM's are. That way I won't have to worry about using a TM early or something.

They have been like that since Gen V.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Imagine if Alola Exeggutor was in Pokemon Go.

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That **** would be crazy.

The Lesser Exeggutor has gone where no Exeggutor has gone before.

 

[Ura]

They have been like that since Gen V.

Oh yeah I forgot lol. Gen V was the first Gen that took measures in to fixing the HM's issue by making Cut not necessary to know for the main game and other things.

It is going to feel weird not having HM's given that i've been playing the series since Gen 1 but hey it's a welcome change to make gameplay more convenient and whatnot.

 

[Yellowlord]

To be honest, I hope the ice forms of Sandshrew/Vulpix and Sandslash/Ninetales actually get original names since "Alolan <insertnamehere>" just seems generic and weird.

Some ideas:

* Iceshrew and Iceslash for Sandshrew/Sandslash, respectively.

* Frostpix and Fairytales for Vulpix/Ninetales, respectively.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Oh yeah I forgot lol. Gen V was the first Gen that took measures in to fixing the HM's issue by making Cut not necessary to know for the main game and other things.

Indeed. It also dropped the amount of HMs from eight to six.

It is going to feel weird not having HM's given that i've been playing the series since Gen 1 but hey it's a welcome change to make gameplay more convenient and whatnot.

Yeah, it'll be weird (but great) when one of Pokemon series' biggest flaws is gone.

 

[Opossum]

I'm just unbelievably happy we have Pokemon based off the flower mantis and the bird of paradise. :D


Also Alolan Exeggutor is the best thing.

 

[Coricus]

I don't mind not having to force a move onto my Pokemon's moveset but I did want to ride around on my Pokemon.

I hope next generation they give you the option to ride on your own Pokemon without an HM. I want to go across the seas on my Water type. Borrowing Pokemon in XY didn't feel any fun.

 

[FalKoopa]

To be honest, I hope the ice forms of Sandshrew/Vulpix and Sandslash/Ninetales actually get original names since "Alolan <insertnamehere>" just seems generic and weird.

Some ideas:

* Iceshrew and Iceslash for Sandshrew/Sandslash, respectively.

* Frostpix and Fairytales for Vulpix/Ninetales, respectively.

It's even weirder in Japanese as Sandshrew's name is simply "Sand".

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Did a drawing of Palutena.

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[Yellowlord]

Did a drawing of Palutena.

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Nice job on this! I am hoping to someday be able to draw without replicating a reference. Guess I still have some work to do.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Did a drawing of Palutena.

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Must....not...stare.

But seriously speaking, good onya mate. This piece of Palutena is quite the beaut.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Nice job on this! I am hoping to someday be able to draw without replicating a reference. Guess I still have some work to do.

I can draw some characters without a reference.

Not Palutena though, the amount of details on her can be a pain.

 

[Chrono.]

Ice type is so bad that even giving it the 2nd best defensive typing in the game as a dual type doesn't save it @ Sandslash.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ice type is so bad that even giving it the 2nd best defensive typing in the game as a dual type doesn't save it @ Sandslash.

This is why Ice needs buffs BADLY. I can imagine Sandslash Alola getting a few useful Ice moves like Ice Shard and Icicle Crash, and Ice Steel has similarities to Aggron's typing matchup

 

[Deleted member]

Anyone else feel the alola forms are a sign this gen is going to have less pokemon?

Also I'm 100% convinced at this point there is no new megas

I don't mind it if it does happen, at least they'll come with new typings and movesets

THEY GOT RID OF HMS! REJOICE!

I just hope Fly, Surf and Waterfall become TMs
Fly is the most reliable Flying move in the maingame and Surf and Waterfall are the most consistent STAB Water moves for special and physical attackers, respectively

Oh yeah I forgot lol. Gen V was the first Gen that took measures in to fixing the HM's issue by making Cut not necessary to know for the main game and other things.

It is going to feel weird not having HM's given that i've been playing the series since Gen 1 but hey it's a welcome change to make gameplay more convenient and whatnot.

Actually, Cut was literally the ONLY HM required in BW

 

[Chrono.]

This is why Ice needs buffs BADLY. I can imagine Sandslash Alola getting a few useful Ice moves like Ice Shard and Icicle Crash, and Ice Steel has similarities to Aggron's typing matchup

How would you even buff it though?

Unless you start adding new types, it doesn't feel like you could make Ice type better without screwing over another type...

But maybe I'm missing something.

 

[Ura]

Actually, Cut was literally the ONLY HM required in BW

True. My bad. Haven't played BW and BW2 since 2012.

 

[Champ Gold]

Ice type is so bad that even giving it the 2nd best defensive typing in the game as a dual type doesn't save it @ Sandslash.

Plus x4 to Fighting

Atleast Ice/Fairy for Ninetails is great since fighting type moves won't do major damage to it and having some help against various other Pokemon.

Plus Ninetails is now a Dragon Killer

 

[Cutie Gwen]

How would you even buff it though?

Unless you start adding new types, it doesn't feel like you could make Ice type better without screwing over another type...

But maybe I'm missing something.

Give it a few more resistances. Steel LOST 2 resistances from Gen V to Gen VI

 

[Chrono.]

Plus x4 to Fighting

Atleast Ice/Fairy for Ninetails is great since fighting type moves won't do major damage to it and having some help against various other Pokemon.

Plus Ninetails is now a Dragon Killer

If only it was JUST pure Steel, then it could be usable.

 

[Coricus]

Well, as far as having less new Pokemon goes, there's already tons of people whining "There's too many Pokemon I can't catch them all Pokemon is ruined!," so I can see why they would do it.

As far as Ice goes the fact that Pokemon I like tend to be that typing just reinforces that I am doomed to love everything that others reject.

The same goes for Litten, which despite the owl likely ending in another Greninja situation I will likely continue to stick with it the same way I did with Delphox.

Except in this case I'll get a type advantage against all the Pokemon online and hilarity will thus ensue.

Heck, the Ice types will have an advantage against Rowlet too.

Niche perks.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If only it was JUST pure Steel, then it could be usable.

I actually looked it up
7 res 1 quad-res 2 quad-weak 1 weak 1 immunity. That's actually alright quad weaknesses aside. Bet it could work wonders on a Trick Room team

 

[Deleted member]

When will people stop thinking a 4x weakness automatically makes a Pokemon bad?

How would you even buff it though?

Unless you start adding new types, it doesn't feel like you could make Ice type better without screwing over another type...

But maybe I'm missing something.

Give it resistances to Ghost, Fairy and/or Dragon
There are way too few types that resist these.
Fairy is overpowered due to being recent, Ghost completely overshadows Dark and an immunity didn't hurt Dragon that much

Also, while on this topic, remove Fairy's Bug resistance. Who the **** thought it was a good idea to NERF Bug? 7 Types that resist it is not okay

 

[Champ Gold]

How would you even buff it though?

Unless you start adding new types, it doesn't feel like you could make Ice type better without screwing over another type...

But maybe I'm missing something.

A third typing

No seriously. Having a triple typing like Fire/Grass/Water would be insane especially considering that type combo's only weakness is Flying

 

[Cutie Gwen]

When will people stop thinking a 4x weakness automatically makes a Pokemon bad?

Give it resistances to Ghost, Fairy and/or Dragon
There are way too few types that resist these.
Fairy is overpowered due to being recent, Ghost completely overshadows Dark and an immunity didn't hurt Dragon that much

Also, while on this topic, remove Fairy's Bug resistance. Who the **** thought it was a good idea to NERF Bug? 7 Types that resist it is not okay

It depends on what the weakness is. Fighting and Fire moves are rather common on teams, so that's a bad thing for Coldsteel, yet Mega Swampert doesn't care about it's Grass weakness because it isn't nearly as common

A third typing

No seriously. Having a triple typing like Fire/Grass/Water would be insane especially considering that type combo's only weakness is Flying

POISON FAM

 

[Aetheri]

When will people stop thinking a 4x weakness automatically makes a Pokemon bad?

Give it resistances to Ghost, Fairy and/or Dragon
There are way too few types that resist these.
Fairy is overpowered due to being recent, Ghost completely overshadows Dark and an immunity didn't hurt Dragon that much

Also, while on this topic, remove Fairy's Bug resistance. Who the **** thought it was a good idea to NERF Bug? 7 Types that resist it is not okay

but having a 4x weakness makes the Pokemon automatically unviable in any situation...

 

[Coricus]

Also. . . I feel like I said something before we had any real info on Sun and Moon about them maybe stockpiling the amount of time they had to reveal everything and then getting out info every couple of weeks so people would get new news as soon as the hype at the old news wore off and the hype train would be kept chugging along consistently.

Looks like the idea was correct and they actually are doing that.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Having a triple typing like Fire/Grass/Water would be insane especially considering that type combo's only weakness is Flying

You know what would be even more insane? Having a Pokemon with every type. It's only weaknesses would be Rock and Freeze-Dry.

 

[Chrono.]

Let's talk about this guy.

He's Fire type expert but apparently trains with a Marowak.

Fire type Marowak confirmed?

 

[JamesDNaux]

Well that was a rather tall bit of news.


Am I the only one slightly bothered by all the ice type forms popping up in a tropical region?
You'd think a Vuplix would be right at home in the tropics, this isn't the arctic.

Edit:
If Vulpix evolves into Nintetails via Fire Stone, how will Coolpix evolve into Icetails, new stone?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Let's talk about this guy.

He's Fire type expert but apparently trains with a Marowak.

Fire type Marowak confirmed?

@Drunkle Qrow thinks we're getting Marowak Blaze, AKA Ghost Rider

 

[Opossum]

When will people stop thinking a 4x weakness automatically makes a Pokemon bad?

Give it resistances to Ghost, Fairy and/or Dragon
There are way too few types that resist these.
Fairy is overpowered due to being recent, Ghost completely overshadows Dark and an immunity didn't hurt Dragon that much

Also, while on this topic, remove Fairy's Bug resistance. Who the **** thought it was a good idea to NERF Bug? 7 Types that resist it is not okay

Fairy and Dragon I can understand, but beyond balance issues, I can't think of a reason for Ice to resist Ghost. There should at least be some degree of logic behind it.


But then again, Fairy and Bug.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

Guys,how could you not @me about this ninetails news!This is crazy, i wanted a mega ninetails but this is 100x times better.Look at that design,oh man and that typing!Its def on my team

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Let's talk about this guy.

He looks a bit like Grant from X and Y.