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[ChikoLad]

Sneaky, sneaky Reggie...

I'd still have my expectations low though.

I mean, this is reasonable speculation, but it's still speculation.

I think it's pretty obvious Nintendo isn't necessarily interested in having the most powerful hardware. I doubt the NX will be as powerful as Project Scorpio, for example.

It's also obvious they could be sandbagging. After all, they did this with their entire E3 this year. They didn't tell us about the new Mario Party, the new IP, the new amiibo, or anything like that going in. And that made people more excited to hear about them. I guarantee that if Nintendo had announced that amiibo would be at E3 or a new IP would be at E3 in advance of E3, people wouldn't have been as excited by them. The sudden manner in which they announced them is what made them more exciting. For me personally, them announcing a new wave of Super Mario amiibo that included Rosalina was a pipe dream going in, as I had kinda given up on it happening. And then it happened and I found something to flip my **** about (that wasn't Zelda). It wouldn't have been as exciting for me if they had announced there would definitely be new amiibo at E3 in advance.

However, none of this guarantees that we can expect the same for the NX.

I think at the very least, the NX being as powerful as the Xbox One is a given, since Dragon Quest 11 is confirmed for the NX (and I doubt it's exclusive to PS4 just because they couldn't downgrade it a bit and port it to Xbox One, it's likely because they don't think there is an audience for it on Xbox One). I still am not sure about it being as powerful as the PS4 though, let alone more powerful. I also don't think any of this guarantees if it will use x86 architecture, which is the ONE thing the system needs more than anything. So there is still plenty of justification for being worried.

And yeah the bit about him smiling was a stretch and a half. I mean, by this logic, we can equally assume that it's underpowered, given that other picture of Reggie that got out.

 

[JamesDNaux]

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No doubt someone will mod Linkle into the Wii U version of BoW anyway. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[ChikoLad]

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/e3-2016-sonic-boom-fire-ice-preview-alexs-take/

More positive impressions on Fire & Ice.

I hope they have kiosks for this game at Summer of Sonic. Having kiosks of the anniversary game would be amazing, but honestly Fire & Ice looks fun too, and I'd love to put out my own early impressions.

 

[Deleted member]

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No doubt someone will mod Linkle into the Wii U version of BoW anyway. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Not before I mod Zelda as playable myself first.

 

[Fenriraga]

Partially off topic, but I hope the Master Sword isn't the only "End All" powerful weapon. I mean I can imagine it'll still be one of the most powerful tools, but with how many other weapons they're giving us in this game I really want some more "legendary" weapons. Hyrule Warriors did it, so why not?

Where's my Legendary Master Stalchild Skull anouma

 

[Aetheri]

Because I was sleeping while this discussion was happening...

Hate towards Other M is unwarranted, but it is understandable...Other M was meant to be a new direction for the Metroid series keep in mind...However too much was sacrificed for a more in-depth story...now this wouldn't be such a problem if the story wasn't as bad as it was...IMO the gameplay wasn't that great and certainly not good enough to compensate for the bad story...The game added hardly anything else to bring the series forward as a franchise and only ended up alienating those who had played previous titles...Too much use of nostalgia in all the wrong places...

Federation Force, is literally just a spin-off...as said many times before it's biggest problem is horrible timing...You don't revive a series from a hiatus with a minor spin-off that doesn't even feature the main protagonist of the series as the main playable character...especially one held to such a high standard as Metroid...

Do I think Metroid's dead? No...keep in mind we had several Metroid titles added to the virtual console recently, at this point every Metroid game is available on Nintendo's eshop between both the Wii U and 3DS...also with a new console on the way, and Nintendo making a better effort (hopefully) to try to bounce back from the Wii U's flop...

I do have some doubts though because I'm not sure on Nintendo's actual stance on the franchise, considering it hasn't done all that well in Japan, but at this time I'm willing to wait it out first at least until the new console is released...though I don't think we'll get a new game at launch...

 

[ChikoLad]

A prominent Smash modder has uploaded a tutorial on setting up modding Smash Wii U now too. It's another good, easy to follow one, so I'll leave it here for those interested.

And no, it's not me.

 

[Champ Gold]

Man, I had said this a thousand times, FemLink is never an issue, the issue is that we have is that we have a character that needs to be playable in her own game but

NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE HER A CHANCE

That's why I'm upset, where's the demand for a game starring Zelda as the character, her own adventure. Why is it that the only time she's playable is in non-canon spinoffs, Smash and The Unholy Triforce CD-I games? Why is it that it seems sinful and awful that we can't make a game for Zelda more than making Link a girl? Hell That's more shameful to take an established character and change its gender.

 

[Burruni]

Partially off topic, but I hope the Master Sword isn't the only "End All" powerful weapon. I mean I can imagine it'll still be one of the most powerful tools, but with how many other weapons they're giving us in this game I really want some more "legendary" weapons. Hyrule Warriors did it, so why not?

Where's my Legendary Master Stalchild Skull anouma

Hyrule Warriors also had the Master Sword be the "End All" powerful weapon.
Going to 500 power through Evil's Bane, which trounced all 3*, and then its second skill goes to 700 which in turn overwhelms the Plus weapons.

 

[ChikoLad]

Someone got to one of the overworld bosses in the BotW demo.

 

[Fenriraga]

Hyrule Warriors also had the Master Sword be the "End All" powerful weapon.
Going to 500 power through Evil's Bane, which trounced all 3*, and then its second skill goes to 700 which in turn overwhelms the Plus weapons.

Mmm, good point. I don't have the patience to get every weapon so it's stayed at a weaker power for me :V

Someone got to one of the overworld bosses in the BotW demo.

We Zelda of the Collosus now.

not really but it's an easy comparison

 

[Wolfie557]

Kamiya teasing (yet again) of a Bayonetta 3 makes me happy. If it does happen I can bet it's gonna be dark green themed.

It suits her so well in Smash and in B2 there's an area with a green umbran circle symbol in the ceiling. It's huge.

Someone got to one of the overworld bosses in the BotW demo.

So did Gamexplain in thier 30 min direct feed video but they are terrible.

 

[_Sheik]

Kamiya teasing (yet again) of a Bayonetta 3 makes me happy. If it does happen I can bet it's gonna be dark green themed.

It suits her so well in Smash and in B2 there's an area with a green umbran circle symbol in the ceiling. It's huge.

So did Gamexplain in thier 30 min direct feed video but they are terrible.

So did the Treehouse, twice, and they were actually (somewhat) good. Nintendo did things right for once, so why bother and search somewhere else when they've got plenty of the best direct-feed footage yet?

 

[Deleted member]

And yet Zelda always has to be saved. She was created solely as an object to be gotten after. This still hasn't changed to this day. She slightly helps once in a while, sure, but she still can't escape this sexist stereotype. Not even Tetra can. While she herself was fine in WW, and once became Zelda, was turned into another object to be saved. At least it wasn't Tetra directly, right? Then came along PH where she's turned into a statue, taking away the entire point of her just to make her an object to save, a literal one in this case.

The series may have a lot of good female characters, but the most important one still hasn't been fixed in any game. That is canon, anyway. The CD-i games were far more progressive with Zelda herself than any canon game has. And that's sad.

And yes, what he said was sexist. He's outright declaring that you have to be male to be the hero, and the person to be saved must be female(at least this doesn't apply to Ganon, as females can be villain in canon, but that wasn't even made entirely by Nintendo in that case. Capcom made Oracle of Ages. That's saying something). This is an extremely sexist stereotype, that women and weak and must be saved, while men are strong and must be the heroes. As I said, only 3rd parties have actively fixed this bull****. That shouldn't have to be the only solution.


Samus is actually an established person. Link is you. That's the point of the character. They dropped that, which would be okay if he got an actual personality so he doesn't represent the player anymore. They refuse to do that. His name alone is just an artifact, since if he's supposed to represent the player, he's doing a terrible job at it.


Link has never stopped being an avatar character outside of the CD-i games. He's completely one in the other games(and Hyrule Warriors doesn't really bother to give him a real personality either).

And no, he did not. That's not personality. That's not what real personality is. It means you actually have some form of set dialogue that represents you, or something really similar to dialogue. Also, that's one Link at best. A problem is that not every Link is the same, and therefore cannot have a set personality. And therefore, there's a serious design problem with the character. Likewise, BOTW makes him a pure avatar in everything but gender. There's literally no personality traits, nothing set about his weapons, his clothes, his abilities even. You can do everything because you can. You choose everything for him quite literally but the gender. They should either just cut the bull**** and let you choose the gender or cut the bull**** and give him a proper personality(that includes dialogue, and he doesn't need voice acting. SS proved he can have unique dialogue, and the options are all different, ranging from cocky to a real hero).

If you honestly think Link is not a character and that he needs dialogue to be considered one, then I'm not even going to bother trying to argue this anymore

I'm not a mod nor do I have any authority here, but could all of you please stop fueling up this debate? It's already silly in the first place, and the more you keep responding within the argument, the more you harm each other's feelings because you disagree with what the other party says.

On a brighter note, I really dig @Zoroarking's avatar.

Good to see someone else appreciates proud Jakob
Source if anyone cares

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Partially off topic, but I hope the Master Sword isn't the only "End All" powerful weapon. I mean I can imagine it'll still be one of the most powerful tools, but with how many other weapons they're giving us in this game I really want some more "legendary" weapons. Hyrule Warriors did it, so why not?

Where's my Legendary Master Stalchild Skull anouma

A Master Spear for a Spear Master

 

[ChikoLad]

So I finally fixed the freezing problem I was having with my Smash mods. Turns out that in trying to install that Shadow mod, I accidentally added an extra folder and copy of a file (the file in question was the parameter file for the character and CSS interface) that doesn't need to be there and has no use, and that was confusing the game when it was trying to load mods. I guess I can use the Shadow mod after all if I want to, right now. So yeah, I just did something really silly without realising it.

I'm about to record showcases for my English VA Marth and Mercedes Rose VA Rosalina now regardless though, and I will be releasing those mods once I do that.

 

[Coricus]

So did the Treehouse, twice, and they were actually (somewhat) good. Nintendo did things right for once, so why bother and search somewhere else when they've got plenty of the best direct-feed footage yet?

If anyone wants to see the full fight, try to look for the second one. They got beaten the first time and had to go try again later.

The drop items the boss gives were the first tipoff that I noticed that Rupees really are in the game, though, so if you're curious about the game acknowledging Rupees and money you can pause when they pick up the drop items and have the description come up.

 

[Curious Villager]

So I just completed the Cave of Shadows again with full 20 hearts this time in Twilight Princess HD, in preparations for Breath of the Wild. Hopefully my Wolf Link companion won't die too soon during the travels now once the game comes out. ^^

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

So when people wanted the Inkling in Smash after the Digital Event back in '14 it was all fine and dandy, but this isn't?

At least in Splatoon's defense, it was an AAA title developed by a young team and the guys behind Animal Crossing. It was bound to be a big and look at Splatoon now, one of the best selling Wii U games of all time. And all of that would pay off with a Mii Fighter hat and trophy. I can see them being likely for the future easily with their success and popularity.

Ever Oasis on the other hand only has mild hype going for it with Grezzo having a small resume with handheld 3D Zelda ports and a Streetpass game about flowers. The only thing big their president did was the Mana series and that was published by Square. The game has a lot of charm, sure, but I see this suffering the same fate as Codename S.T.E.A.M.

 

[Wolfie557]

At least in Splatoon's defense, it was an AAA title developed by a young team and the guys behind Animal Crossing. It was bound to be a big and look at Splatoon now, one of the best selling Wii U games of all time. And all of that would pay off with a Mii Fighter hat and trophy. I can see them being likely for the future easily with their success and popularity.

Ever Oasis on the other hand only has mild hype going for it with Grezzo having a small resume with handheld 3D Zelda ports and a Streetpass game about flowers. The only thing big their president did was the Mana series and that was published by Square. The game has a lot of charm, sure, but I see this suffering the same fate as Codename S.T.E.A.M.

I agree. Maybe even worse than STEAM but hopefully not.

This is Grezzo's first own IP for Nintendo right?

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I agree. Maybe even worse than STEAM but hopefully not.

This is Grezzo's first own IP for Nintendo right?

The first is Line Attack Heroes for the Wii Ware, with the 3DS exclusive Flower Town as their second. This however is their third original IP for Nintendo with a notably bigger budget than the previous two (being an actual retail cartridge release instead of digital only).

 

[Ivander]

Good to see someone else appreciates proud Jakob
Source if anyone cares

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Those comics are the best in general. So many funny and true moments, as well as many great reaction images.

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[Coricus]

So when people wanted the Inkling in Smash after the Digital Event back in '14 it was all fine and dandy, but this isn't?

I just want to take the time to say that I personally felt Inkling being wanted in '14 was NOT fine and dandy and was quite irritated at the time with how quick people were to jump the gun and ask for a character whose game wasn't even out yet. It hadn't turned out well the last time, and with the other IP shown off then it still hadn't turned out well.

Four million copies later I've definitely warmed up to them, but I still feel like people were way too reactionary to them not being DLC.

That said, I feel less irritated with this suggestion just out of the sheer quietness speculation has had lately and how people are often told to stop speculating now.

Despite my not remembering it myself though, I keep going "He has a name you know" every time people ask for the character. You'd think they'd put a little more care into it if they really wanted him. XD

 

[TTTTTsd]

All the NX actually has to be is a functional, relatively good to dev for console (Square doing work for it, Dragon Quest no less, is a nice sign) and probably stronger than the PS4. I don't expect 4K support because I don't believe we should be aiming for 4K when we can't even have affordable low-lag 4K TVs yet (IIRC). I think Nintendo is also in this realm of thinking and it's probably good, we didn't really embrace 720p IMMEDIATELY either and that's totally fine (on the console side of things)

The NX can get away with not being PS4 Neo or Scorpio because any game for the PS4 Neo is also for the PS4 so if we work under the assumption that the NX is an easy to port to console and has an infrastructure and devkit that devs can actually work with, it kind of sings its own praises.

The last Nintendo system that was conventional and easy to dev for was the Gamecube. All we need is a Gamecube 2.0. Das it, really.

Also I think the ire at Federation Force is justified to a certain extent but when you see petitions about cancelling the game (lol?) among other things you realize that certain individuals need to cope with disappointment better. Game gets a lot of **** and I'm perfectly fine with that but there's a line I draw between reasonable **** and like, trying too hard I guess? That being said I think of Fed Force as a bridge more than its own thing so I'm kind of over it, I'm ignoring it because it doesn't interest me but I'm pretty positive the NX is going to have a Metroid game that people actually like. The only reason I've cooled down about Fed Force is cause in spite of all this the developer interview made me at least see that he was pretty passionate about the idea and has wanted to do it for a while so at the very least, good for him I guess? Not that I care that much, but meh.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Hey Flower Town is actually a good Streetpass game with enough strategy when growing your plants! You have no idea how many days I've put into growing my entire garden with that game.

But the jobs are grueling as hell since they demand specific flowers that will be nigh impossible to grow unless you were lucky too get the right seed combinations from friends. Still a better game than Gardening Mama on the DS

 

[epicmartin7]

Welp. Looks like some misinformation was just found out that I kind of want to report on.

1.) The photos that were found in the press kit for Zelda Wii U that appear to be 4k seem be artwork possible rendered on a PC.

2.) The NX "this fall" timeline the GM of Nintendo of Canada made might have been a mistranslation.

I'll update you guys if anything comes out of these or if these are incorrect.

 

[Deleted member]

Those comics are the best in general. So many funny and true moments, as well as many great reaction images.

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Those two are probably the best way to summarize Jakob's, Elise's and Sakura's characters
Also

Thanks for the new avi

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Hey Flower Town is actually a good Streetpass game with enough strategy when growing your plants! You have no idea how many days I've put into growing my entire garden with that game.

But the jobs are grueling as hell since they demand specific flowers that will be nigh impossible to grow unless you were lucky too get the right seed combinations from friends. Still a better game than Gardening Mama on the DS

Find Mii > Monster Manor > Mii Force > Warriors Way > Ultimate Angler > Battlefield Z > Flower Town

 

[Cutie Gwen]

@NonSpecificFalcon Sorry girl, but I need to call you out on something. You said Link is supposed to represent the player, that was true in the old games, it's debatable in the newer games, but is outright NOT true for BotW. It's debatable in some previous games as Link always has specific character traits, but considering the voice acting SPECIFICALLY mentions Link by name, it confirms the protagonist CAN'T be named, and therefore is his own character. Nothing wrong with wanting a female Link though.

Man, I had said this a thousand times, FemLink is never an issue, the issue is that we have is that we have a character that needs to be playable in her own game but

NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE HER A CHANCE

That's why I'm upset, where's the demand for a game starring Zelda as the character, her own adventure. Why is it that the only time she's playable is in non-canon spinoffs, Smash and The Unholy Triforce CD-I games? Why is it that it seems sinful and awful that we can't make a game for Zelda more than making Link a girl? Hell That's more shameful to take an established character and change its gender.

You forgot Hyrule Warriors, and she was kinda playable in Spirit Tracks, but you're absolutely right. It's why I hope the Sheik game becomes a reality

 

[Champ Gold]

@NonSpecificFalcon Sorry girl, but I need to call you out on something. You said Link is supposed to represent the player, that was true in the old games, it's debatable in the newer games, but is outright NOT true for BotW. It's debatable in some previous games as Link always has specific character traits, but considering the voice acting SPECIFICALLY mentions Link by name, it confirms the protagonist CAN'T be named, and therefore is his own character. Nothing wrong with wanting a female Link though.

You forgot Hyrule Warriors, and she was kinda playable in Spirit Tracks, but you're absolutely right. It's why I hope the Sheik game becomes a reality

I actually mentioned those 2 games.

Non-Canon Spinoffs=Hyrule Warriors

 

[_Sheik]

I just want to take the time to say that I personally felt Inkling being wanted in '14 was NOT fine and dandy and was quite irritated at the time with how quick people were to jump the gun and ask for a character whose game wasn't even out yet. It hadn't turned out well the last time, and with the other IP shown off then it still hadn't turned out well.

Four million copies later I've definitely warmed up to them, but I still feel like people were way too reactionary to them not being DLC.

That said, I feel less irritated with this suggestion just out of the sheer quietness speculation has had lately and how people are often told to stop speculating now.

Despite my not remembering it myself though, I keep going "He has a name you know" every time people ask for the character. You'd think they'd put a little more care into it if they really wanted him. XD

But people shouldn't be blamed for doing that. It pretty much is Smash's fault for being an overrated chunk of fanservice since 1998.

As for his name, I think it's not definitive or the Treehouse gal named him according to her own tastes. Kind of like the villager in Animal Crossing who doesn't have a definitive name. Do not quote me on that, though, but it sort of has a likeliness going on for it. I might be wrong.

He's named Tethu in the footage.

AwesomeAussie27

At least mild hype is still mild hype. It's doing even better than you make it out to be, tbh. Codename STEAM, however, definitely killed off the hype of E3 2014 for many a player.

 

[Chrono.]

Someone figured out one of the silhouettes from the Injustice 2 CSS.

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[Ura]

http://gamerant.com/zelda-sheik-spinoff-miyamoto/

I almost misread this title as a spin-off starring Shrek.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Someone figured out one of the silhouettes from the Injustice 2 CSS.

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OH MY GOD YES! BEST DC HERO!

 

[Coricus]

Find Mii > Monster Manor > Mii Force > Warriors Way > Ultimate Angler > Battlefield Z > Flower Town

Eh, I felt like Flower Town moved faster than Monster Manor and Warrior's Way and got stuck less than Find Mii, so most of my Play Coins went there. I thought it was fun enough for the little casual thing it was. It's the only game I got the game completion hat on, too. Not that I did hardly any of the missions or did any real work collecting all the flower types, but I got the game completion hat.

Haven't played Ultimate Angler and Battlefield Z enough to give them a comparison to the others.

But people shouldn't be blamed for doing that. It pretty much is Smash's fault for being an overrated chunk of fanservice since 1998.

As for his name, I think it's not definitive or the Treehouse gal named him according to her own tastes. Kind of like the villager in Animal Crossing who doesn't have a definitive name. Do not quote me on that, though, but it sort of has a likeliness going on for it. I might be wrong.

He's named Tethu in the footage.

AwesomeAussie27

At least mild hype is still mild hype. It's doing even better than you make it out to be, tbh. Codename STEAM, however, definitely killed off the hype of E3 2014 for many a player.

I think an inanimate object kind of requires someone to rate it, so that still kind of loops back around to the fandom. . .

 

[Opossum]

I just want to take the time to say that I personally felt Inkling being wanted in '14 was NOT fine and dandy and was quite irritated at the time with how quick people were to jump the gun and ask for a character whose game wasn't even out yet. It hadn't turned out well the last time, and with the other IP shown off then it still hadn't turned out well.

Four million copies later I've definitely warmed up to them, but I still feel like people were way too reactionary to them not being DLC.

That said, I feel less irritated with this suggestion just out of the sheer quietness speculation has had lately and how people are often told to stop speculating now.

Despite my not remembering it myself though, I keep going "He has a name you know" every time people ask for the character. You'd think they'd put a little more care into it if they really wanted him. XD

Wait, so people aren't even allowed to WANT something unless it meets your time/sales standards? Because that's what it seems like you're implying, and that's total BS. People can want whatever they please. They want an EO character despite it being brand new? They want a STEAM/W101 despite bad sales? Did they want the Inkling after only seeing Splatoon's initial trailer? All of those are fine and dandy.

And hell, if they still want to do Smash spec, that's fine too. It's their choice. It doesn't personally affect anyone else, so if anyone gets irritated at it, the problem is solely on them.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

http://gamerant.com/zelda-sheik-spinoff-miyamoto/

I almost misread this title as a spin-off starring Shrek.

Shrek needs more movies, then we can talk about a new game.

 

[Erureido]

Thought I'd contribute to this Fire Emblem Fates 4Koma KINGS comics with my personal favorite.

Spoiler: Large image

That Oboro one really should've been in one of her Revelation supports lol. I can imagine Laslow replacing Takumi here and being the one who invited her to try some Nohrian food (for a date), and then he just watches Oboro having the most entertaining reactions trying it out.

The anthology comics are also pretty funny. Birthright Chapter 1 is one of my favorites, and it parodies Saizo and Corrin's supports.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

They want an EO character despite it being brand new?

@Zoroarking I'd like your tears to go please

 

[Coricus]

Wait, so people aren't even allowed to WANT something unless it meets your time/sales standards? Because that's what it seems like you're implying, and that's total BS. People can want whatever they please. They want an EO character despite it being brand new? They want a STEAM/W101 despite bad sales? Did they want the Inkling after only seeing Splatoon's initial trailer? All of those are fine and dandy.

And hell, if they still want to do Smash spec, that's fine too. It's their choice. It doesn't personally affect anyone else, so if anyone gets irritated at it, the problem is solely on them.

S-sorry. . .

You're right. It is their choice.

Although I think it DOES effect other people in one way, as everyone in this fandom is more jealous than green Jello and if they don't get the characters they specifically want they're going to rip everyone else to shreds. I admit that doesn't just apply to early requests, though. Obscure requests, side character requests, heck even requests for popular main characters. Every request effects everyone else just by virtue of the fact that most of the requesters are rabid animals.

*EDIT* To elaborate, there's only about a dozen at most requests, if that, I DON'T think have some potential issue that could lead to one predicting it's fandom being let down ahead of time, and every last one of those fandoms are as obnoxious as any other.

 

[Ura]

Shrek needs more movies, then we can talk about a new game.

I still want that LoZ Shrek spinoff tho. That game would print money no jks.