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Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

When, if ever, do you plan on buying the Switch?

  • At launch

    Votes: 40 36.0%
  • Late spring/summer

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • During the fall/holidays

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Sometime after 2017

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Not until [insert game here] is released

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • I'm not getting that bucket of turds!!

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
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Zelda hype is in full swing.
 
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You know, i just realized that it will be a long time until we see any sort Smash Bros announcement at any E3.

Im not saying that i want more Smash right away, of course not. (im okay with waiting for a new Smash for a long time) but at the same time it's really bittersweet. We had 3 E3s in a row that had Smash news on it (first the Official Trailer with Vilager and Mega Man, then the Trailers of the Miis, Palutena and Pac-Man, and finally the Sunday Direct with Roy and Ryu) heck, they announced Smash Bros 4 back in Early 2011, so you can count as 4 E3s if you wanted.

But all good things must come to an end................or at the very least, take a long break.........
 

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Another hour of Zelda...

with Ice Arrows!
and naked link
 

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What I like about Awakening is that Each class has their unique sprite animation when you put the cursor on that said class, it makes it quite enjoyable like the Fighter doing a marching dance, and Virion slicking his hair back. I'm very sad this doesn't return in fates.
 
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And surprising no one, Ash is likely getting Mega Charizard Y (unless it's Trevor's).
 
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Happy birthday @bananija! Apologies this is somewhat late! :p

By the way, the people behind Color Splash are willing to make a Thousand Year Door Remaster if we're "vocal" enough. The thing is, WE HAVE been vocal, so here's hoping they'll get to it soon. :b:
 
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I think this is just Kamiya being a silly goose.
Maybe he's being a silly goose, but he's still a silly goose that seems likely to be open to things.

Maybe we can ask Nintendo if they want to throw money at SEGA again, with a little Capcom on the side. :awesome:
 

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It's just Kamiya playfully teasing as usual. This is the same man that rejected Bayonetta's inclusion in Project x Zone 2 because he'd rather make a Bayonetta x Devil May Cry game instead.

Also, do not ask him on Twitter or else you will get blocked.
Can someone recount the whole Twitter Bayonetta story for us, for old time's sake?

I still remember the tales of him yelling at everyone during prerelease, ending with that one beautiful far-future conclusion after the Ballot:

To Sakurai and all Smash idiots

I LOVE YOU
 

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I saw the female Link discussion here. I just realized it'd be a terrible idea for BotW. EVERYONE is sexualizing Link. The same people that demanded a female Link would whine that she'd be too sexualized as a result. I mean, even ZELDA is sexualizing Link
There was a problem fetching the tweet
 

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Can someone recount the whole Twitter Bayonetta story for us, for old time's sake?

I still remember the tales of him yelling at everyone during prerelease, ending with that one beautiful far-future conclusion after the Ballot:
He said the same thing at Star Fox Idiots when Platinum's involvement in Zero was revealed as well.
 
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I saw the female Link discussion here. I just realized it'd be a terrible idea for BotW. EVERYONE is sexualizing Link. The same people that demanded a female Link would whine that she'd be too sexualized as a result. I mean, even ZELDA is sexualizing Link
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I want to use that line
 

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Seems like we have a soft confirmation on new characters for Pokken.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokkenGame/comments/4oh2kb/japanese_pokken_arcades_to_be_updated_with/

Basically, there's a trailer for an update to the arcade version. The ending apparently says something along the lines of "new playable Pokemon coming soon". Pretty good timing considering the recent datamine.
Here's hoping it's more than just Darkrai (who, going by the datamine, is the likeliest one to be playable).
 

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Well, Empoleon is cool I guess. He's one of my favorite pokemon

But, I don't think I care enough to get the game still
 

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Aaaaaaand here's another person wanting the Ever Oasis protagonist in Smash. That's up to six people as of now. :laugh:
 
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So far, my favorite Robot power up in Kirby is cutter, IDK why. Followed by spark

My least favorite is Psychic or w/e it's called
 
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And surprising no one, Ash is likely getting Mega Charizard Y (unless it's Trevor's).
It's not Ash's.

There's an episode dedicated to Ash soon to enter a full 6-on-6 battle with only the 5 Pokémon he has on him, so he would need to quickly get his sixth entrant for the competition (most likely Goodra).

And before you ask "then wouldn't that be Charizard?", this takes place AFTER the Mega Charizard duel.

At this point, Ash's "Mega" Pokémon is Ash-Greninja.
 
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Mighty No 9 doesn't look that bad. It just doesn't look that great

It looks...unpolished. Unfinished.

The art, specifically

Edit: So, I just had something weird happen in Kirby

I decided to try out King Dedede's amiibo, because I was underwater with no powers and it was kind of annoying and hammer is one of the few things that works underwater

Well, that very level had those pegs that you have to hit with hammer power to reveal the secret

The level didn't have any hammers anywhere on it.

Freaky, the level I decided to try out Dedede had hammer pegs
 
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I saw the female Link discussion here. I just realized it'd be a terrible idea for BotW. EVERYONE is sexualizing Link. The same people that demanded a female Link would whine that she'd be too sexualized as a result. I mean, even ZELDA is sexualizing Link
There was a problem fetching the tweet
The problem with that logic is that it's people sexualizing Link, not the gender being an issue. Being able to be in skimpy outfits isn't an issue with gender, it's an issue with the outfits.

And welcome to the world of bishonen. This is a major issue with anyone who has little clothing. And a double standard, really. The thing is, if you could choose female, and had the same outfits exactly(just give her a large set of bandages over her chest and don't change the briefs), then she'd be treated exactly as the male one.

It's more of a lack of equality than anything else at best at this point. Right now, Link is clearly being sexualized by people. I don't see anyone complaining about it(and the game isn't doing so, it's just the audience. If you do something like a kick a chest open with your bare foot, the toe will get stubbed. Link is hurt more without clothing on. He shivers during cold temperatures. And so on. The game simply treats what your current clothing is in a realistic manner. The outfits are pretty reasonable designs too).

I also am not a fan of the idea that "let's not do this, cause then feminists will complain about it!". There's reasons not to give a female Link option. The example you brought forth is not one of them. That's a Perfect Solution Fallacy(somebody will complain about it, so let's not allow the option). Plus, as I said, that'd be a double standard. If you aren't going to complain about Link being partially naked, the gender should very much not matter. That's one of the many gender stereotypes, that women must be far more covered up to be acceptable in society. There's a difference between skimpy clothes and having to wear a full shirt no matter what. Like, both can wear modest swimsuits, but it's somehow considered worse for a woman to wear one in most cases.
 
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I like how Kirby's reaction to his friend dying is to immediately split into 3 kirby's and start dancing
 
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The problem with that logic is that it's people sexualizing Link, not the gender being an issue. Being able to be in skimpy outfits isn't an issue with gender, it's an issue with the outfits.

And welcome to the world of bishonen. This is a major issue with anyone who has little clothing. And a double standard, really. The thing is, if you could choose female, and had the same outfits exactly(just give her a large set of bandages over her chest and don't change the briefs), then she'd be treated exactly as the male one.

It's more of a lack of equality than anything else at best at this point. Right now, Link is clearly being sexualized by people. I don't see anyone complaining about it(and the game isn't doing so, it's just the audience. If you do something like a kick a chest open with your bare foot, the toe will get stubbed. Link is hurt more without clothing on. He shivers during cold temperatures. And so on. The game simply treats what your current clothing is in a realistic manner. The outfits are pretty reasonable designs too).

I also am not a fan of the idea that "let's not do this, cause then feminists will complain about it!". There's reasons not to give a female Link option. The example you brought forth is not one of them. That's a Perfect Solution Fallacy(somebody will complain about it, so let's not allow the option). Plus, as I said, that'd be a double standard. If you aren't going to complain about Link being partially naked, the gender should very much not matter. That's one of the many gender stereotypes, that women must be far more covered up to be acceptable in society. There's a difference between skimpy clothes and having to wear a full shirt no matter what. Like, both can wear modest swimsuits, but it's somehow considered worse for a woman to wear one in most cases.
The problem is that the same people who whine about a female Link are the same that would complain about her wearing "skimpy clothing"
Tl;dr there's no pleasing those people
 
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Let's not leave the enthusiasm generated by this year's Nintendo's E3 to forget one of its biggest and most regretful losses:
 

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Let's not leave the enthusiasm generated by this year's Nintendo's E3 to forget one of its biggest and most regretful losses:
We get it.

You don't like Zelda and think it took Metroid's place.

Still, just let the happy people be happy. They got a nice thing. That's never a reason to complain.

Besides, Federation Force won't be that bad.
 

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The problem is that the same people who whine about a female Link are the same that would complain about her wearing "skimpy clothing"
Tl;dr there's no pleasing those people
And they can be safely ignored. And they're not the same people either anyway.

I don't care if Link is female because I'm a feminist. I care because I identify as female and am still disappointed I cannot play as a woman in a canon Zelda till this day. You know, the actual gender I am? Link solely was created to represent the person playing as them. This is why he was given no actual personality(and he still doesn't have a set one in the canon games. Those spin-offs and shows and non-canon games don't count at all) to begin with. This is why the name was called "Link".

Now, if they simply just said "We find Link is iconic as a male and want to keep it that way" instead of these bull**** story excuses(like the Triforce somehow is the cause of this), it wouldn't be too big of an issue. Or let us properly play as Zelda without the bull**** excuse of "Then what would Link do?", meaning that Link not only has to be male, but we aren't allowed a female hero. The best they've given at these suggestions otherwise were "we'll think about it". But it's not like making a playable Sheik is just as good as having Zelda playable either. Sheik has a different set of abilities, and is a transformation. With how sexist Nintendo is, there's the fear they'll make this version of Sheik male, which caters to the same problemsome gender stereotypes; Only men can fight and women only exist to be saved. While they've slowly gotten better about this, they clearly don't intend to actually fix it. Aonuma's views aren't just outdated, but sexist. He makes fun games, but he isn't good at keeping the series from being sexist.

People googly-eyeing shirtless Link are simply just objectifying him. That's all. The problem is nobody is calling this out as well. That's what needs to happen. Likewise, the fact that Link is being made of an object than a character isn't a good thing either. Even if Link could be female in this case, yes, she would be objectified. But if somebody is calling that out but not shirtless Link, then it's a double standard. Either apply it to both males or females, or you really aren't trying to battle any actual sexism.

I want gender stereotypes to die off myself. This game is doing a terrible job at fixing that. The only Zelda games to make an attempt were the CD-i games(due to Zelda being the hero, but still is a Princess, meaning they're battling the stereotype without taking away her normal profession) and a slight bit in ST where Zelda is told she can't just sit home and let the hero do all the work. She has to do it herself if she wants it.
 
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Guys, found something that might be mindblowing for you as it was for me. Apparently sitting up right in a chair is actually not good for your back after all. You want to sit like this (if your chair allows it)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6187080.stm



Must be why recliners feel so good.
 

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It would be hated on the spot.

Partially due to how bad the Metroid fanbase has become.

Partially because how would that even work?
I'm part of the Metroid Fanbase and can atleast confirm that the Ridley in Smash fiasco, has nothing to do with the Metroid Fanbase, because those where Smash Bros fans, that thought they could predict Sakurai and just didn't know, when to quite when it was clear he would not be playable, since the Pyrosphere appeared in the pic of the day, but yeah we still get scapegoated 90% of the time because of this fiasco

The only two things Metroid fans really want are either a spiritual successor to the Prime Trilogy or a new 2D Metroid like Fusion or Super

The backslash for Federation Force, was to be expected, because of how the franchise was walking on thin ice, after Other M and they could have prevented alot of the damage, by announcing that "there is also another Metroid game in development", so here is a nice spinoff, but well instead we got a game, that does not resemble the franchise in the slightest (and with that I don't mean the lack of Samus or artstyle) and we only have an assumption that one is in development for the NX, because Retro is still secretive about their next project.

The cancelation poll was childish, I'll give you that, but I'm very confident if Zelda or Pokemon fans would be in the same situation, they would react way worse, then this cancelation poll

Also if you put aside the Metroid elements from Federation Force, you have a very clunky and unpolished game if you look at the Gameplay alone.

TL.DR version, just imaging Zelda being on hiatus for atleast 8-10 years and the only bone you get thrown at after that long wait, would be Links Crossbow training, thats basically what Federation Force is in a nutshell
 
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We get it.

You don't like Zelda and think it took Metroid's place.

Still, just let the happy people be happy. They got a nice thing. That's never a reason to complain.

Besides, Federation Force won't be that bad.
It has been some time already I ceased to make this connection.

And I'm also currently reconsidering my point of view about BotW in a favorable way, so I encourage you to not make change my mind.
 

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TL.DR version, just imaging Zelda being on hiatus for atleast 8-10 years and the only bone you get thrown at after that long wait, would be Links Crossbow training, thats basically what Federation Force is in a nutshell
Crossbow Training isn't even a bad game. So unless you're saying "we'd still get a good game, just not the exact one we're asking for", there's a very big flaw in this comparison.

The Zelda series doesn't really have a bad spin-off anyway. It just has three mediocre non-canon games from the CD-i, which aren't nearly as bad as people say they are(they got reasonable scores when released for a reason), and not enough people bother to play them before judging, which doesn't help.

That said, there's still nothing to suggest Federation Force will be bad anyway. It still looks like a good game, but it's nothing more than a spin-off.

And many of us will gladly take a spin-off of a dead series instead of leaving it dead. It's still something.
 
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