Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

[WeirdChillFever]

I think the WiiU struggled because making HD games was harder than they expected so they bum rushed the heck out of everything.

I suggest you donl;t ask for OP because I already have some trusted people in plans for it, if I can;t find a new one after that......then maybe I';ll consider.

I get it, no problem.

 

[Opossum]

Title-changing on the 3DS is hell.
I'm also gonna echo SB a bit. It makes no sense to me to wish for inferior hardware.

 

[Strofirko]

Maybe firing Iwata will improve NX hardware.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Finally all those rumors about the NX being a beast and "industry leading chips" can die off.

. . . Well that isn't a good mindset to have. It certainly won't help them unless the console is dirt cheap (which is its own problem)


Unrelated (although some would argue it is lol) the new update to Kingdom Hearts Unchained gave us KH Cloud facepalming

So that's nice

 

[Chrono.]

Eh, I just took Reggie's comment as not pursuing 4K like Sony/MS are at the moment.

Tl;dr: I never expected the NX to be a beast, but I'm pretty sure it'll be closer to the current Xbone/PS4. That's all I want, a competent console with fun games.

Plus they already said BotW will run better on the NX, that alone makes me hopeful.

 

[ChikoLad]

Like I don't exactly think the NX needs to be a super machine or anything.

But I think it would do well to at least be on par with the vanilla Xbox One. The Wii U released and wasn't as powerful as that, and it clearly caused problems. For them to STILL not match the Xbox One when they are releasing ANOTHER new console while the vanilla Xbox One is still Microsoft's main console, would be absolutely pathetic.

If nothing else though, they NEED x86 architecture for the NX. All of the other consoles use it, while Nintendo still uses PowerPC, which is incredibly dated. If they moved to x86, they would get a lot more third party support simply because developers can easily port their games over.

 

[Fenriraga]

*groan*

...I'd like to apologize for yesterday.

Again.

I don't take back any of the points I was making but the fact stands that how I delivered said points was kinda crummy and rude. I got in a really nasty car accident the other day and since then my whole system and emotional stability has been out of whack and excuses excuses...

Like to say "it won't happen again" but I think we all know that's probably not true. But I am sorry.

Game still doesn't look good to me though.

 

[Coricus]

Like I don't exactly think the NX needs to be a super machine or anything.

But I think it would do well to at least be on par with the vanilla Xbox One. The Wii U released and wasn't as powerful as that, and it clearly caused problems. For them to STILL not match the Xbox One when they are releasing ANOTHER new console while the vanilla Xbox One is still Microsoft's main console, would be absolutely pathetic.

If nothing else though, they NEED x86 architecture for the NX. All of the other consoles use it, while Nintendo still uses PowerPC, which is incredibly dated. If they moved to x86, they would get a lot more third party support simply because developers can easily port their games over.

I keep wondering every time x86 is brought up, but. . .is there no possibility that they could take a third option?

Like, are there no modern architecture setups other than x86 they could upgrade to?

I know that they shouldn't be sticking to the same tech they used two, soon to be three generations ago, but is x86 really the only tech they could jump forward to?

And would it be impossible for devs to port over to anything other than x86, or is there another architecture that could feasibly work?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I got in a really nasty car accident the other day

Damn, I thought I had **** luck today when some jackass crashed into me on the bike because they were too lazy to cross 2 traffic lights. You okay?

 

[Champ Gold]

The NX has to have the ability to handle multiplatform games.


It doesn't need to be as strong as the PS4 but barely stronger than the Xbox One.

Also I think it needs to take a 'chance' at VR.

Not make it focus or put majority of the development on it but to show that we are with the modern times and trends.

Also if you're gonna make a gimmick controller, atleast make it OPTIONAL and still have the option for people who want a traditional controller style like what the Wii had

 

[Strofirko]

Memes:

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/CheapyD/status/743502117839605760

 

[Fenriraga]

Damn, I thought I had **** luck today when some ******* crashed into me on the bike because they were too lazy to cross 2 traffic lights. You okay?

Slammed into a car at 50 mph, swerved into a pole, hit the curb and blacked out.

Yet somehow I got out of this with only a few cuts and a nasty bruise. Other people are perfectly fine too.

I legit can't remember anything about the accident, and no one stopped so we have no witnesses. According to the other driver I ran a red but I seriously don't remember anything.



But yeah, I am okay technically, thanks. Just no so much emotionally right now.

 

[Starlight_Lily]

Huh, I had a thought the other day, but I think I realised something about the people who complain about modern day Simpsons, that being I don't think they've actually watched the newer seasons, so they don't actually know if the latest seasons are funny or not.

Although I don't think many people have seen the newer season on TV since the old episodes are always being syndicated, and most people probably have no idea where the new episodes are aired.

And this probably seems random to a lot of you, but its just a thought on The Simpsons I had that I wanted to share.

 

[Chrono.]

Memes:

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/CheapyD/status/743502117839605760

"I'll show them best hardware"

"I'll show them all"

 

[Wolfie557]

...I really don't get this line of logic. Or lack thereof.

Nintendo aren't creative because of limited hardware. They are creative in spite of it.

However, that does not at all mean that more powerful hardware would reduce their creativity. Quite the opposite in fact. Because stronger hardware isn't just for graphics, but also for more advanced game mechanics too and more content in said games.

Nintendo's games wouldn't suddenly look less creative if they used more powerful hardware. Stuff like BotW would not have been possible on the Wii, for example.

Having more powerful hardware only benefits creativity.

Nintendo like to say the reason they use dated hardware is to encourage or push creativity, but that's PR BS. It's really to lower development costs and to make it easier to provide a cheaper console than their competition. They can't rely on this strategy forever though, the Wii U more than proved that.

This this this this this and this hands down.

I really hate how people defend Ninty for having weak consoles.

So far aside from the DS, Wii and to an extent 3DS it has NOT worked for them. More power = even more creative Zelda BotW ect.

 

[Aetheri]

I keep wondering every time x86 is brought up, but. . .is there no possibility that they could take a third option?

Like, are there no modern architecture setups other than x86 they could upgrade to?

I know that they shouldn't be sticking to the same tech they used two, soon to be three generations ago, but is x86 really the only tech they could jump forward to?

And would it be impossible for devs to port over to anything other than x86, or is there another architecture that could feasibly work?

Its not impossible, its just a heck of a lot easier to port to the same architecture...

Some companies have ported their games to the Wii U such as with Ubisoft and EA while others just flat out refuse to do so, since they feel its not worth the effort...

 

[Wolfie557]

Memes:

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/CheapyD/status/743502117839605760

He looks sad.
He knows.

But he needs to do his PR talk.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Slammed into a car at 50 mph, swerved into a pole, hit the curb and blacked out.

Yet somehow I got out of this with only a few cuts and a nasty bruise. Other people are perfectly fine too.

I legit can't remember anything about the accident, and no one stopped so we have no witnesses. According to the other driver I ran a red but I seriously don't remember anything.

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But yeah, I am okay technically, thanks. Just no so much emotionally right now.

O.O Damn. Make sure you rest up enough and maybe take a day off work

 

[Chandeelure]

Maybe firing Iwata will improve NX hardware.

Excuse me?

 

[Coricus]

The NX has to have the ability to handle multiplatform games.


It doesn't need to be as strong as the PS4 but barely stronger than the Xbox One.

Also I think it needs to take a 'chance' at VR.

Not make it focus or put majority of the development on it but to show that we are with the modern times and trends.

Also if you're gonna make a gimmick controller, atleast make it OPTIONAL and still have the option for people who want a traditional controller style like what the Wii had

Nintendo has already stated that they're waiting until VR becomes mainstream until they make it for themselves.

That's probably going to get a lot of groans from the gaming community, but I can see why they'd be a little reluctant. People may be chomping at the bit for VR, but it's not going to have many games at first and the games it WILL have will probably SUCK. Pulling out may make Nintendo look bad, but it also gives them time to watch everyone else make the stupid mistakes for them and then take steps to avoid those mistakes. Plus VR is ludicrously expensive right now, and Nintendo prides itself on offering cheaper wares. Whether or not that pride is warranted is a matter of opinion, but I'm sure that the logic behind it effected their decision to wait until VR establishes itself before stepping in.

That said, the fact that they acknowledged it means they're still planning on doing it EVENTUALLY, they just want to wait until it comes into it's own a little more.


No idea on the other two details, although considering they've been about a generation behind everyone else with their schedule for a while and the Wii U was PS360 level I'd guess that they would probably finally catch up to being at least somewhere in the ballpark with power this time. And as for the controller, at the very least that Zelda interview implied it won't have a screen on it, so there's that.

 

[ElectroLightning]

Should I get the Wii U version of BotW or the NX version?

 

[Coricus]

Should I get the Wii U version of BotW or the NX version?

I think I would suggest this strategy for deciding.

Wait until the NX launch lineup is announced.

See if there's any other games you want.

If yes, go NX, get better graphics.

If no, stick with Wii U.

Because BotW is almost certainly going to have better graphics on NX, but it was stated to have no other differences.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Spoiler

I think I figured out why people love the Archie Megaman comics. Pretty damn nifty

 

[A Distant Demon]

Should I get the Wii U version of BotW or the NX version?

NX version is, as far as we know, going to be the Wii U version with better graphics and the same gameplay experience.


So the Wii U version will be cheaper (probably) and out earlier but the NX version will have better graphics.



Of course whether or not the nx will be a worthwhile purchase in the first place is still unknown to us. We've still get plenty of time to know though because Zelda is a loooooooooooooooong ways away.




Also Skylanders is getting a Netflix show lol Crash cameo when?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1234896

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Also Skylanders is getting a Netflix show lol Crash cameo when?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1234896

Inb4 Crash is given the MCU treatment of Netflix

 

[Ura]

Quick update on my health for you guys that commented yesterday. Went to a Walk-In Clinic and I got tested on my Lungs and Heart and apparently there's nothing wrong with either of those. I asked about tightness in my chest and they gave me a puffer for whenever I feel like my chest is tight. I guess whatever problem I had I can attribute to my weight so like I said yesterday I need to get my **** together with having better health habits and stuff.

 

[Solfiner]

This this this this this and this hands down.

I really hate how people defend Ninty for having weak consoles.

So far aside from the DS, Wii and to an extent 3DS it has NOT worked for them. More power = even more creative Zelda BotW ect.

Oh, you mean some of their most successful consoles ever?

Also the Gamecube was stronger than the PS2 yet we all know how that turned out.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Honestly, all I want from the NX is to be able to handle third party games the PS4 and Xbox One can. A system with Nintendo's IPs and the third party support of other systems? Yes please.

 

[Chrono.]

lol They're actually making Hot Ryu merch.

Spoiler

I can't believe that's his official name now.

 

[Deleted member]

I keep wondering every time x86 is brought up, but. . .is there no possibility that they could take a third option?

Like, are there no modern architecture setups other than x86 they could upgrade to?

I know that they shouldn't be sticking to the same tech they used two, soon to be three generations ago, but is x86 really the only tech they could jump forward to?

And would it be impossible for devs to port over to anything other than x86, or is there another architecture that could feasibly work?

A different architecture means more complications when handling ports and such. Sure, 3rd party devs CAN do it, but it means extra work for them, work they're not likely to do if past trends are any indication.

Should I get the Wii U version of BotW or the NX version?

Subjective answer: get the WiiU version, it at least has other games, and is moddable. It's alsp cheaper if you already own a WiiU.

Objective answer: We don't know anything about the NX, it would be unwise to jump onto that platform when it's possible it might flop harder than the WiiU. Wait for the NX to be revealed, as well as it's lineup, and then consider if the games available for it justify a purchase. One thing is certain, BotW will have better visuals on NX, it's been confirmed. If you own a WiiU already, the better option is obviously the WiiU version. If the NX succeeds, you can always sell your copy of Zelda then, and buy a new one for NX.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

My Kirby Planet Robobot just arrived with my D3 amiibo and Kirby amiibo!

 

[Soul.]

Having three consoles that do the same **** is dumb.

They got power "right" with GameCube; still didn't get most of the stuff PS2 and Xbox had while saying no to online play which was taking off at the time lol. Also, mini discs were a detriment to third-party companies.

And as for NX, it definitely won't have Neo/Scorpio specs so that's out of the way. PS4/Xbox One levels sounds much more reasonable, and besides those systems will be 4 years old by then. Nintendo suddenly won't have an up to date system with the latest specs.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, all I want from the NX is to be able to handle third party games the PS4 and Xbox One can. A system with Nintendo's IPs and the third party support of other systems? Yes please.

Why, hello there.

 

[Solfiner]

Reminder that the question was about Sony's and Microsoft's NEW systems, not PS4 and Xbone. Those companies even said that there aren't gonna be any exclusive games for the new systems, meaning that as long as the NX is in the same specs category as the PS4 and Xbone it's gonna be fine.

 

[Strofirko]

Gamecube lacked GTA,cue failure.

 

[ChikoLad]

Oh, you mean some of their most successful consoles ever?

Also the Gamecube was stronger than the PS2 yet we all know how that turned out.

The DS and Wii succeeded based on fads that are no longer new, fresh, and exciting. Touch control especially is sort of becoming standard.

And the Gamecube failed because NINTENDO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE THEIR OWN BLOODY DISC FORMAT THAT COULD ONLY HOLD 1GB OF DATA.

And that was equally hard for third parties to work with. PS2 was less powerful, but it was close enough to the GC and at the end of the day, it went with the DVD standard disc format that could hold 4GB.

Stop oversimplifying everything. Just because something worked for them one time or didn't one time, doesn't mean it will come out the same again.

The general reason Nintendo's consoles fail is because they have an awful habit of being different for the sake of being different. Using dated architecture because it's different, or making up an objectively inferior disc format. There is always something.

They just need to make sure the NX doesn't have that something. That one catch.

You really can't defend this practice. It's like going into an exam, failing it on purpose, and then claiming "oh, I failed because I knew everyone else would pass. Failing makes me unique and different, and therefore better than everyone else". That's literally Nintendo's line of logic with these things (according to their PR speak), and it needs to stop.

 

[Deleted member]

They got power "right" with GameCube; still didn't get most of the stuff PS2 and Xbox had while saying no to online play which was taking off at the time lol. Also, mini discs were a detriment to third-party companies.

The GameCube actually did have an Ethernet attachment, but not many games supported it (unfortunately).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I wasn't aware someone could harass you in to becoming a fan of something. pic.twitter.com/tVrpPwWdlW

— Waverunner (@Waverunner5642) June 16, 2016

Note to self: Being called out on ludicrous statements like "I'd be interested in the new Zelda if I didn't have to play as Link" means harassment

 

[Deleted member]

The DS and Wii succeeded based on fads that are no longer new, fresh, and exciting. Touch control especially is sort of becoming standard.

And the Gamecube failed because NINTENDO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE THEIR OWN BLOODY DISC FORMAT THAT COULD ONLY HOLD 1GB OF DATA.

And that was equally hard for third parties to work with. PS2 was less powerful, but it was close enough to the GC and at the end of the day, it went with the DVD standard disc format that could hold 4GB.

Stop oversimplifying everything. Just because something worked for them one time or didn't one time, doesn't mean it will come out the same again.

The general reason Nintendo's consoles fail is because they have an awful habit of being different for the sake of being different. Using dated architecture because it's different, or making up an objectively inferior disc format. There is always something.

They just need to make sure the NX doesn't have that something. That one catch.

You really can't defend this practice. It's like going into an exam, failing it on purpose, and then claiming "oh, I failed because I knew everyone else would pass. Failing makes me unique and different, and therefore better than everyone else". That's literally Nintendo's line of logic with these things (according to their PR speak), and it needs to stop.

Well said.

PS2 was also a massive success because it appealed as a multimedia platform for the living room, during an era where no such things were commonplace. So they managed to attract a bunch of nongamers who only bought a PS2 for DVDs or music, and eventually picked up a game or two here. The simple fact that the PS2 was a multimedia device helped them sell massive amounts of units, with such a large install base, ofc 3rd party devs are gonna place their focus there. Once they had that down pat, there was no one that could stop the PS2. It was marketing brilliace. I mean, the GCN and Xbox were both great consoles, better than the PS2 specs-wise even. GCN also had one of Nintendo's best libraries, but the PS2 was just a massive hit, so it didn't even matter. It was the success of the PS2 that prompted Nintendo to churn out their Wii strategy.

 

[Strofirko]

I wasn't aware someone could harass you in to becoming a fan of something. pic.twitter.com/tVrpPwWdlW

— Waverunner (@Waverunner5642) June 16, 2016

Note to self: Being called out on ludicrous statements like "I'd be interested in the new Zelda if I didn't have to play as Link" means harassment

Now turn into a fan or I will harass you into an air conditioner.