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Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

When, if ever, do you plan on buying the Switch?

  • At launch

    Votes: 40 36.0%
  • Late spring/summer

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • During the fall/holidays

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Sometime after 2017

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Not until [insert game here] is released

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • I'm not getting that bucket of turds!!

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
    111
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Seems like a lot of people are online now, so I guess I can finally introduce the topic and perhaps change the subject.

In these past few hours, I've been compiling a list of Pokemon that utilize arm blades as their chief weapon in battle. With everything checked, it's time I begin the next Pokemon poll:

Who is your favorite arm blade Pokemon?

Answer in the poll below!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11978786

Who did I pick? Well, I think this picture sums it up!



I know most people here probably saw this one coming. Not only is it my favorite out of all the arm blade Pokemon, but it's also my favorite Pokemon around. Awesome design, awesome physical sweeper, awesome personality, awesome Mega Evolution, I could go on and on about Gallade.

I'm interested to hear what is everyone's favorite arm blade Pokemon based on the poll. In the next several hours, we shall see which arm blade Pokemon is the most liked here in Nintenzone!
 
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Avatar was literally just Atlantis: The Lost Empire with less likable characters.


As someone who sees A:TLA as severely underrated, Avatar irks me more than it should.
When you say Avatar you talking blue aliens or air bending?
 

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For some reason I'm more angry than I should be

I'll be back

I think it's just the stir crazy making me react
 

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In what may be a vain attempt to change the subject, I have a hypothetical scenario I want to ask this thread about.

So Nintendo's been saying for a while now that they want to do more with their IP. So far this has been shown with their mobile games and Super Nintendo World. Today I got to thinking about what other avenues they could explore and one idea got me thinking harder than the rest...I just have no idea if people would have any interest in it.

Hypothetically, if Nintendo were to do it, would anyone here read a licensed Nintendo game-based novel? Naturally some series lend themselves better to this than others, but I figured it might be worth exploring. Marvel and Star Wars both do pretty well with this despite branching from other forms of media, so it's not a completely unexplored market.

Would anyone find this interesting? Any series or game in particular you'd like to see this happen for?
As in actual Novels and not Manga because Nintendo IPs have plenty of those...
Also there's plenty of video game series out there that seem to do well with novels such as Halo and Mass Effect...

With that said I would not object to some well written Zelda and Metroid Novels...This would actually be a really good opportunity to delve into other aspects within the respective universes, without having to squeeze them into games...Such as a novel that takes place during the Great Flood of Hyrule or during the Interloper War, or Hyrulean Civil War, for example...
For Metroid is could be neat learning more about the creation of Metroids for use against the X and possible events that lead up to that...
 

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Avatar was literally just Atlantis: The Lost Empire with less likable characters.


As someone who sees A:TLA as severely underrated, Avatar irks me more than it should.
Atlantis always interested me, that and Treasure Planet, but I never saw it.

There's a couple of Disney movies I haven't seen, I should get around to that.
 

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I really like Atlantis, I really don't see why it failed as much as it did.

I'd like to see Kida as a Disney Princess
IMO it honestly would have done better had it been released today than in 2001. A lot of things about it click more with people nowadays I've noticed.

Back then one common major complaint was that it was apparently too different from the usual Disney fair, coming off the 90's Disney musicals. There may have been box office competition issues as well. I mean yeah, there was a plot hole here and there, but nothing that should've driven people away from it. That and Treasure Planet just got the short end of the stick.
 

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Seems like a lot of people are online now, so I guess I can finally introduce the topic and perhaps change the subject.

In these past few hours, I've been compiling a list of Pokemon that utilize arm blades as their chief weapon in battle. With everything checked, it's time I begin the next Pokemon poll:

Who is your favorite arm blade Pokemon?

Answer in the poll below!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11978786

Who did I pick? Well, I think this picture sums it up!



I know most people here probably saw this one coming. Not only is it my favorite out of all the arm blade Pokemon, but it's also my favorite Pokemon around. Awesome design, awesome physical sweeper, awesome personality, awesome Mega Evolution, I could go on and on about Gallade.

I'm interested to hear what is everyone's favorite arm blade Pokemon based on the poll. In the next several hours, we shall see which arm blade Pokemon is the most liked here in Nintenzone!
Well Scyther's cool and evolves into one of my favourite Pokemon, but as is I went with Sceptile who is one of my favourite starters and grass-types out there...The original Leaf Blade user :p
 
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Seems like a lot of people are online now, so I guess I can finally introduce the topic and perhaps change the subject.

In these past few hours, I've been compiling a list of Pokemon that utilize arm blades as their chief weapon in battle. With everything checked, it's time I begin the next Pokemon poll:

Who is your favorite arm blade Pokemon?

Answer in the poll below!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11978786

Who did I pick? Well, I think this picture sums it up!



I know most people here probably saw this one coming. Not only is it my favorite out of all the arm blade Pokemon, but it's also my favorite Pokemon around. Awesome design, awesome physical sweeper, awesome personality, awesome Mega Evolution, I could go on and on about Gallade.

I'm interested to hear what is everyone's favorite arm blade Pokemon based on the poll. In the next several hours, we shall see which arm blade Pokemon is the most liked here in Nintenzone!
I'm gonna go with the OG Scyther, though it's more because of how much I love Scizor and its Mega.
Bisharp being a close second thanks to its Dark type and more knight design.
Both were also surviving members of my first Nuzlocke and helped a lot despite coming in late with Scizor basically sweeping the entire endgame with SD+Bullet Punch(RIP Mega Gardevoir)
 
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Seems like a lot of people are online now, so I guess I can finally introduce the topic and perhaps change the subject.

In these past few hours, I've been compiling a list of Pokemon that utilize arm blades as their chief weapon in battle. With everything checked, it's time I begin the next Pokemon poll:

Who is your favorite arm blade Pokemon?

Answer in the poll below!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11978786

Who did I pick? Well, I think this picture sums it up!



I know most people here probably saw this one coming. Not only is it my favorite out of all the arm blade Pokemon, but it's also my favorite Pokemon around. Awesome design, awesome physical sweeper, awesome personality, awesome Mega Evolution, I could go on and on about Gallade.

I'm interested to hear what is everyone's favorite arm blade Pokemon based on the poll. In the next several hours, we shall see which arm blade Pokemon is the most liked here in Nintenzone!
Went with Scyther because it evolves into one of my favorite Pokemon of all time, plus its design is neat.
 

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Seems like a lot of people are online now, so I guess I can finally introduce the topic and perhaps change the subject.

In these past few hours, I've been compiling a list of Pokemon that utilize arm blades as their chief weapon in battle. With everything checked, it's time I begin the next Pokemon poll:

Who is your favorite arm blade Pokemon?

Answer in the poll below!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11978786

Who did I pick? Well, I think this picture sums it up!



I know most people here probably saw this one coming. Not only is it my favorite out of all the arm blade Pokemon, but it's also my favorite Pokemon around. Awesome design, awesome physical sweeper, awesome personality, awesome Mega Evolution, I could go on and on about Gallade.

I'm interested to hear what is everyone's favorite arm blade Pokemon based on the poll. In the next several hours, we shall see which arm blade Pokemon is the most liked here in Nintenzone!
The lack of Bisharp votes dissapoints me.
 

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According to TMZ, Debbie Reynolds has also passed away.

This must be a tough time for their family, my deepest condolences to all of them.
 
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I reckon Legend of Zelda novels would be very neat. Especially novels that bridge time periods between games. i.e. A novel based on the events of the Great Flood and the Hyrule Civil War.

And if they would give that honor to more niche series than I hope Golden Sun can somehow get that treatment though I would much rather prefer anime OVA's.
 
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R.I.P Debbie Reynolds.
Seriously, a day after her daughter died? 2016 keeps getting worse each day. May the force be with her family.
 

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Debbie Reynolds too?!

...."sigh"

Day after day after day....we lose someone else....and this time it.... it was another wonderful person who went right after her own daughter.

The end of this year has sucked.....
 

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Oh, then I misread.

Protagonist can drive the plot too though. See Stein's Gate, Death Note, Breaking Bad, etc... These aren't concrete rules, and the point I was trying to make was against characters who are reactionary. It doesn't often work unless you write your story around that. It just about any decent monomyth, it's the protagonist who takes sets things going for one reason or another. Characters making conscious decisions give us a window into their minds, as their actions are driven by purpose, and purpose and motivation are what make characters interesting.

If you're unable to properly define a character's motivations and purpose, whether they be proactive, or reactionary, then that's not a very well-written character. People are a lot more nuanced than a person who is simply taken for a ride and has the world deliver a tailored adventure just for them.

Even a lack of purpose can be a motivation, look at Welcome to the NHK.

But for a Monomyth, unless a character is written with an explicit lack of purpose and you're seeking to explore that, a reactionary character is hard to make work.

Han Solo had a death sign hanging over his head the entire movie, it couldn't be move obvious he was gonna die. Especially since Harrison Ford had been wanting to kill him since EpV, and had said that he'd only sign up for another trilogy if he could kill Solo off.

As an aside, the way in which Solo was killed also bothered me. Especially since it was at the climax of the film. It didn't serve the story at all. I would have much liked it if Solo had been killed before the story was set in motion, and actually, most of the story on Ren's side dealt with him coping with his decisions and emotions. Ren has a semblance of nuance, but he has no core direction, and as a result, rather than coming off as conflicted and complicated, instead is just omnidirectional and sloppy in character. Which is a pity, cause they could have done more with him. As it stands though, I think he's by far the character with the most potential for VIII though, as he's the only one with any semblence of character.

But that was only cause when they did that, it **** all over the established canon and took the fantasy out of SW by turning mystical space magic, into mitychlorians.

I didn't say he was well liked, I merely said that a character with more nuance to them by having both masculine and feminine traits is inherently more interesting.

As for Rey, I can nuke your arguement with one simple question.

"What are Rey's core motivations and drives?"
WHO is she? What does she want? What is her PURPOSE from the start of the film?

None of these are answered over the course of the movie.

Luke on the other hand has all of these questions totally answered before he even gets off Tattooine: He wants to follow in his father's footsteps and become great, just like his father whom he's been told so much about. Him wanting to rescue Leia was in part cause he was horny, but also because it was a chance to prove himself and find adventure. It was a call to action.
It's true that protagonist CAN react, but it's the exception, not the rule, like you said.
I'd argue that having a character that simply doesn't have motivation can work. See Saitama
Regardless if it was obvious or not, it still happened. Just because you think Disney wouldn't keep continuity doesn't mean they won't. Finn can and likely will still be paralyzed in the next movie
Ren CLEARLY has more coming for him in terms of character development, I believe the director himself said he intends to have Ren as a better antagonist than Vader, and considering we all knew we'd get more movies, it's likely buildup like in Marvel movies
Then you STILL argued something about a character you knew nothing about. Unless you MEANT the antagonist based off of my description, but as you didn't admit it's a genuine mistake, which happens to everyone, I can't take you seriously if you're talking about something you yourself admit you know nothing off. To be clear, that sentence was SPECIFICALLY for the KR thingm not the entire argument

Rey is someone who was abandoned and had to survive on her own, what's to say that she simply was motivated to live another day and then suddenly got dragged into a story she didn't want anything about? I know what it's like to fight from the depths of hell and have next to no ambition. She was dragged along by Finn and BB iirc and had to flee with them because the Imperial Troopers saw her with them and would have likely killed/tortured her then
Luke destroyed the Death Star despite that other, more experienced pilots could have done the same and probably better. Rey didn't WANT to take the lightsaber at first, meaning she doesn't WANT to be the obligatory chosen one. Hell, Han's death is probably a motivation for her in the future
 

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I never knew that Avatar Land was a thing.

Shows how long since I've last been in the Disney Parks.
Luckily it's not a thing...yet.

It's seriously a major misstep. They gambled; they thought Avatar had a lot more leg to it than it did. They paid a ton for the licensing fees too...and the fans (myself included) generally aren't happy.



Rest in peace, Debbie Reynolds. :(
 

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Avatar was literally just Atlantis: The Lost Empire with less likable characters.


As someone who sees A:TLE as severely underrated, Avatar irks me more than it should.
Avatar isn't bad when you consider the villains to actually be the good guys.


It's makes that movie 10 times better
 
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Saying TFA is objectively bad would mean its plot structure doesn't make sense, the characters are unlikeable or artificial, use of tropes that indicate bad writing, etc etc.
TFA has none of that: its plot is consistent, its characters feel real and it doesn't have things like a Deus ex Machina.
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TFA IS objectively bad though.

plot structure doesn't make sense
It absolutely doesn't.

The First Order is never properly explained, nor does it fit in with the events of at the end of Episode VI. Their superweapon is illogical by any stretch of the imagination. People wanting to find Luke Skywalker is never explained. We're never told WHY people wanna find Luke.

More than that, Luke leaving a map to be found also doesn't make sense, as why would he wanna be found if he went into hiding? More importantly, how could he be sure that his friends would be the ones to find him, especially considering how close he came do being found by the first order instead.

How Maz got Anakin's lightsaber also doesn't make sense, as that saber fell down into the core of a gas planet in EpV, which would render it either destroyed, or totally unrecoverable. More than that, it's never even explained.

How the first order manages to have more resources than the Republic also makes no sense, as they're the ones rebelling this time around, and in Episode VI, the whole galaxy was rejoicing at the death of the Empire. Even if there were remenants, by EpVI, the Rebels were equal in power to the Empire as they had half the galaxy backing them.

We never got an explanation on how Poe survived the crash on Jakku, he just... did. (It's cause he was meant to die in the initial script, and that was changed latter on, but the writers never bothered to explain how he survived, that's bad writing).

As well as all the convenient things that happen over the course of the film simply to drive the plot forward. Most notably, the rift that separates Rey and Ren at the very end, to end their fight.

I could go on...

the characters are unlikeable or artificial
But they are exactly that. I've just been arguing that Rey is a poorly written character all thread, go and read those to hear that arguement. But this goes beyond Rey. Poe's motivations for example don't make ANY sense, his entire mission was to recover BB-8, and in fact, he flew DOWN to Jakku to get him back, yet after her crashes, we never see him again untill they go to the jungle planet. Whatever happened to his mission? Did he simply trust some dude he JUST met was gonna fulfill that for him? ESPECIALLY when said person had vocally expressed his desire to get out of there, and continues to do so even after coming across BB8 again out of sheer coincidence? Poe's motivations are TOTALLY out of whack.

Finn too. He literally rescues the guy who kills his best friend at the start of the film, and then befriends him. That doesn't make any sense, wouldn't watching your friends get killed by a rebel further your resolve to kill the guy who killed your friend?

Or more so, how about Ren? He ADORES Vader, and he wants to "finish what Vader started." You mean destroy the Sith? Because that's EXACTLY what Vader did. Vader the is person solely responsible for destroying the empire and killing off the remaining Sith. And this was common knowledge at the end of Episode VI, not only that, but Vader's entire character is about someone finding the light again. Why would you call his name to show you the path to darkness, and be rid of the light? As Vader was not only never able to do that, but in fact did the opposite, found the light. Not only that, but Anakin IS a force ghost, this was shown at the end of Ep VI, so if Ren called him out being force sensitive, Anakin would tell him otherwise. Hell, Anakin's ENTIRE reason for turning to the dark side was because he didn't agree with the Jedi Order and their hypocrisy. Because they shunned emotion. It was Luke's brand of Light side force that turned Vader back, as he saw that his son found the answer he never could. Ren would be TAUGHT by this new method, so there'd be no reason for Ren to be seduced at all. And why this is NEVER EXPLAINED.

use of tropes that indicate bad writing
The film is nothing BUT tropes. It's a direct copy of A New Hope, which itself is a by the book monomyth, which is as trope riddled as you can get. Except ANH at least had interesting characters and a good plot to move it forward. TFA has none of that and is riddled with unexplained plotholes, and character motivations that don't make sense. Hell, the characters themselves are LITERAL walking tropes. You have the generic hero who's good at everything, you have the goofy yet cowardly sidekick, and you have the hotblooded and snappy ace pilot. Even the villain is cliche as ****. You might was well play Linkin Park in every scene he's in.
 

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I got Kirby Planet Robobot for Christmas and started working on it a little bit, and I have to say. . .

Normally I don't like sudden gameplay shifts as much as the main gameplay, including in this game's predecessor Triple Deluxe.

But I just played Area 2-2 and went through a spontaneous flight section and I actually had a lot of fun with it. The mech itself is also a lot more fun than Hypernova was.

So you know what? If quality like this keeps up through the rest of the game, then if HAL decided they wanted to make even better gimmicks in the next mainline game that will probably be for the Switch, then I'd probably be up for it.
 
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Just shut up and enjoy the movies guys.
 

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Avatar Land?

Yeah, more like Disney trying to cash in on that third party money.
 

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Pew! there is no bag too strong for me to get out of :p

I've been playing HW more than I've been playing Moon recently.. I keep thinking "just one more battle" everytime I finish a battle -_- also Zelderp is my favorite character :lol: Impa, and Fi are my two least favorites because of the final hit on their weak attacks take too long to start a new combo..
 
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It's true that protagonist CAN react, but it's the exception, not the rule, like you said.
I'd argue that having a character that simply doesn't have motivation can work. See Saitama
Saitama does have motivation. He wants to be recognized as a great hero. This desire is explicitely demonstrated to be the main reason why he's a part time hero. And it's juxtaposed with him never being recognized and getting pushed aside despite being the strongest and more competent for comedic value. The humor in OPM comes from Saitama's core desire and his inability to attain it, despite his obvious superiority, and moreover, explores the concept of "what is a hero" numerous times, by showing that a Hero is more than someone who "gets the job done" as is shown in the Mumen Rider fight.

Ren CLEARLY has more coming for him in terms of character development, I believe the director himself said he intends to have Ren as a better antagonist than Vader, and considering we all knew we'd get more movies, it's likely buildup like in Marvel movies
Then you STILL argued something about a character you knew nothing about. Unless you MEANT the antagonist based off of my description, but as you didn't admit it's a genuine mistake, which happens to everyone, I can't take you seriously if you're talking about something you yourself admit you know nothing off. To be clear, that sentence was SPECIFICALLY for the KR thingm not the entire argument
I merely used the example you have to elaborate on my point. My core argument is more about what makes a good character rather than discussing specific examples. I openly admit I honestly know nothing about the latets KR protagonist, but the point I made still stands strong. Nuanced characters are more interesting than one-dimensional characters, and combining masculine and feminine traits is a good way to give a character nuance.

Rey is someone who was abandoned and had to survive on her own, what's to say that she simply was motivated to live another day and then suddenly got dragged into a story she didn't want anything about? I know what it's like to fight from the depths of hell and have next to no ambition. She was dragged along by Finn and BB iirc and had to flee with them because the Imperial Troopers saw her with them and would have likely killed/tortured her then
But at the start of the film she's shown to want to leave Jakku multiple times and she obsesses about the Jedi and the stories of Luke and Co. Then, halfway through the film, she does a total 180 when she is presented with a light saber, and call to action. This is totally contradictory of her initially established character.

Plus, her reason to want to go back to Jakku is also a contradiction of what was established in the first act.

If she's meant to be a character without ambition, this is not shown properly, especially given her enthusiasm and prowess with everything.

Rey is a character that can be interpreted in various ways, because her core drive is never properly defined, neither are her motivations. In fact, the closest thing she has to a motivation in the story is her desire to return to Jakku, yet this totally contradicts every single one of her actions in the film. Like, her strongest drive, doesn't drive any of her actions throughout any of the movie.

Something like "wanting to return home" screams SURVIVAL instinct. Which is something very befitting of a cowardly character and unconfident character. Yet she's shown to be very brave and stoic, and confident time and again. She should be a character who is constantly running away from the action, rather then running headlong into it.

Luke destroyed the Death Star despite that other, more experienced pilots could have done the same and probably better. Rey didn't WANT to take the lightsaber at first, meaning she doesn't WANT to be the obligatory chosen one. Hell, Han's death is probably a motivation for her in the future
Except it was established in the film that even the most skilled pilots in the rebel forces still had a 1/1,000,000 chance of making that impossible shot, and that the only reason Luke did it was cause of his affinity with the Force, which goes beyond physical capacities. The Force being something that none of the other pilots had, and was seen as a myth by pretty much everyone not Obi Wan Kenobi and Luke himself.

And this is explicitly shown in the dialogue between Obi Wan and Han Solo in the Falcon.

Not only that, but it's later on established in other films that Jedi, and other force sensitives have senses and abilities far beyond those of your average human, but even in ANH, this is already established, that the force grants supernatural powers.
 
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Picking gallade for the armbalde vote was pretty much a guarantee. No competition for me.


Benn trying to set up a file for new hame+ speedrunning for ratchet and clank 3 and things have gotten out of hand. i collected all 100 sewer crystals and beat every annihilation nation challenges. whoops.

Man i remember the last challenge (qwark-tastic battle) being so tense as a kid and i was scared for every bit of ammo and hp. tbis time i just used the duck gun and held circle for a few minutes and one while surrounding myself with a duck army.
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. . .OOOooh!

This has to be the prettiest casino level I've ever played.

Probably the prettiest level in this game so far, too.

I mean, not BAD. This took me by surprise.
 
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