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Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

When, if ever, do you plan on buying the Switch?

  • At launch

    Votes: 40 36.0%
  • Late spring/summer

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • During the fall/holidays

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Sometime after 2017

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Not until [insert game here] is released

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • I'm not getting that bucket of turds!!

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
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Comparing Castro to Hitler and Stalin is unjustified. Sure, he's far from an angel, but he isn't close to those two genocidial dictators.
Castro killed hundreds of thousands of people in his lifetime and admitted that he persecuted gays and that homosexuality was abhorrent

He also is supposed to be some kind of beacon in the minds of socialists everywhere as the true expression of communism while he sits on millions of dollars with his children regularly taking yacht trips while his people make $20 a week

The only thing stopping Castro from being worse is the fact Cuba is cut off from the rest of the world
 
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I'd argue that their appearance is definitely a Yggdrasil reference, with Yveltal being the eagle that perches atop the tree, Xerneas representing the four stags that live on the land, and Zygarde being Nidhogg beneath the surface. It seems REALLY specific that they chose a bird, a stag, and a snake, after all, especially with Zygarde's other forms referencing Hel and Fenrir.


Lore wise though, they're closer to the Hindu Trimurti since they represent Creation, Destruction, and Preservation, respectively. But appearance wise they're definitely Norse in inspiration.
The problem with the animal thing is though that's really all there is to it, and if that's what's causing people to make the connection, then there's a lot of mythologies that you can draw from and come to the same conclusion. Deers, birds, and snakes/dragons have been in many different mythologies and media and Norse isn't unique in that regard at all, you can go to Greek, Shintoism, and many others and you'd probably find an instance of all three appearing in there. To drive the point even further home, along with Yveltal not being an eagle (it's an carrion bird not unlike vultures or crows), all three of those animals have been associated with life, death and cyclity in both mythology and media, elements that Norse Mythology lacks as the eagle has nothing to do with death, Nighogg is all about destruction and not preservation, and the deers just eat the leaves off the tree.

So to me, them sharing the animals isn't enough, there's little depth to the connection other then appearance, and even that is dubious since there's no design traits or other conceptual cues that connect them to that mythology. There's not enough there for me to believe that they conceptually have anything to do with Norse mythology, if the next games actually do give them depth and actually do something with that connection, then I'll take back what I said, but for now it's just a fan theory that's being given more clout then it actually has shown.

With that said, I do think there's some potential in the Hindu Trimurti theory since they fit the roles like a glove, but the lack of depth to the legendaries limits how much of a connection they truly have with that.
 
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Castro killed hundreds of thousands of people in his lifetime
The other two killed millions. Hitler is pretty much responsible for WWII
and admitted that he persecuted gays and that homosexuality was abhorrent
Hitler persecuted pretty much everyone while gazing a couple millions of them. Stalin persecuted a lot of other people two.

He also is supposed to be some kind of beacon in the minds of socialists everywhere as the true expression of communism while he sits on millions of dollars with his children regularly taking yacht trips while his people make $20 a week
Stalin sited on a pile of money while starving a good part of the URSS. Hitler is Hitler.

The only thing stopping Castro from being worse is the fact Cuba is cut off from the rest of the world
And all the points above.
 

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Comparing Castro to Hitler and Stalin is unjustified. Sure, he's far from an angel, but he isn't close to those two genocidial dictators.
He kickstarted the cold war. We have Cuban immigrants celebrating his death in the street.

He may not be genocidal but he's pretty darn close.
 

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The other two killed millions. Hitler is pretty much responsible for WWII

Hitler persecuted pretty much everyone while gazing a couple millions of them. Stalin persecuted a lot of other people two.

Stalin sited on a pile of money while starving a good part of the URSS. Hitler is Hitler.

And all the points above.
Does it really matter semantically who is "eviler"

Evil is evil

Man shouldn't be praised regardless
 

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He kickstarted the cold war. We have Cuban immigrants celebrating his death in the street.

He may not be genocidal but he's pretty darn close.
As I said earlier, Castro is anything but a good person, but Hitler and Stalin are another tier above.

Also, the kickstarting part was pretty funny, good one.:)
 
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He kickstarted the cold war. We have Cuban immigrants celebrating his death in the street.

He may not be genocidal but he's pretty darn close.
Pretty sure the US and the URSS are the ones to blame for the Cold War though
 

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Does it really matter semantically who is "eviler"

Evil is evil

Man shouldn't be praised regardless
I agree with that, totally true.

However, my point was that there is multiple shades of evil, and placing an (horrible) man in the wrong one, especially a worst one, isn't a thing to do.
 

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Pretty sure the US and the URSS are the ones to blame for the Cold War though
Cuba was a huge player in the Cold War. The Cuban Missile Crisis alone speaks to the extent.
 

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Pretty sure the US and the URSS are the ones to blame for the Cold War though
While the primary conflict was between the US and USSR, Cuba did not help and definitely contributed to the tensions between them due to things such as the Cuban Missile Crisis and driving both countries to push for nuclear arms. So Fidel Castro definitely had his role to play in the Cold War tensions, particularly since he brought those tensions so close to home for the US.

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Cuba didn't instigate the Cold War but they were the ones that, to our knowledge, brought us closer to mutually assured destruction than ever before or since.

So, yeah.
 

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****, I also skipped the desert, Im already in Vast Poni Canyon.

Bonus mistake: I also thought A-Sandshrew was exclusive to Mount Lanakila, but also is available in Tapu Village. :facepalm:
 

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Also, PsychoIncarnate PsychoIncarnate , I don't see how Trudeau praised Castro. He offered his condolences, but he didn't really praised him. He talk about the bad and the good of Castro.

Justin Trudeau said:
There are people who have many memories and who experienced a great deal of difficulty because of what happened in Cuba, and I am not minimizing any of that.

The fact is Fidel Castro had a deep and lasting impact on the Cuban people. He certainly was a polarizing figure and there certainly were concerns around human rights. That's something that I'm open about and that I've highlighted.

But on the passing of his death I expressed a statement that highlighted the deep connection between the people of Canada and the people of Cuba.
Source.
 

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Also, PsychoIncarnate PsychoIncarnate , I don't see how Trudeau praised Castro. He offered his condolences, but he didn't really praised him. He talk about the bad and the good of Castro.



Source.
I'm more criticizing the statement he made

“It is with deep sorrow that I learned today of the death of Cuba’s longest serving President.

“Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for almost half a century. A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation.

“While a controversial figure, both Mr. Castro’s supporters and detractors recognized his tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban people who had a deep and lasting affection for “el Comandante”.

“I know my father was very proud to call him a friend and I had the opportunity to meet Fidel when my father passed away. It was also a real honour to meet his three sons and his brother President Raúl Castro during my recent visit to Cuba.

“On behalf of all Canadians, Sophie and I offer our deepest condolences to the family, friends and many, many supporters of Mr. Castro. We join the people of Cuba today in mourning the loss of this remarkable leader.”
 

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Everyone is talking politics and here I am wondering if a three Oricorio team would be viable in triple battles.
 

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Everyone is talking politics and here I am wondering if a three Oricorio team would be viable in triple battles.
Didn't they remove Triple battles or are you speaking more like an online battle simulator
 

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Everyone is talking politics and here I am wondering if a three Oricorio team would be viable in triple battles.
Even discounting the species clause, triple battles aren't around anymore, sadly.
 

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Former Mexican President Vicente Fox is pure kek. Back in 2002 during a U.N. meeting in Monterrey, México he told Castro in a phone call "comes y te vas" ("you eat and then go [out of my country]"). Castro took this bad and caused a small diplomatic incident.

Now Fox said "bueno...comio y se fue" ("well... he ate and now he's gone")

Second diplomatic incident hype.
 

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So guess what's coming up on Thursday?


The VGAs :lol:


Also known as who's ready for Overwatch to dominate and someone to get snubbed
 

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>Wow im 10 pages behind in the nintenzone i probably missed something major
>politics
i am know sadden
 
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I was gonna try to snag some version exclusive UBs if you had Sun,because
The games give multiples of the version exclusive ones for whatever reason.
Probably so, for example, a pair of friends that have both games between them can have all of the UBs in both games by being able to trade extras of the exclusives. Same with why you can end up with two of the cover Legendary this time around by obtaining a Cosmog post-game, most likely.
 

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If I had read this sentence without any context, I would have thought you were referring to :foxmelee:.
This is what happens when he takes his hands off Falco's bread.

Fox, make sure to keep a tight hold on it
 

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A Triple Battle in SM would put the framerate in negative numbers.
 

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So guess what's coming up on Thursday?


The VGAs :lol:


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I completely forgot about the VGAs until you mentioned it. I'm only in it for the trailers they're going to show.
 

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All this talk of Cuba, the cold war, castro, and mentions of the missile crisis....and no one says a word about Bay of Pigs?
*shocked gasp*

Also I finished Konosuba. As in, I spent multiple hours today watching the final 6 or so, having watched the first 4 yesterday. I think later on tonight I'll get to the current episode of Izetta, and then stop there due to school, save my next anime time for tomorrow afternoon. I'm thoroughly happy with myself for being able to get back to watching anime again......
 

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A Triple Battle in SM would put the framerate in negative numbers.
Guy 1: Want a Triple battle?
Guy 2: Sure!
*triple battle starts up*
Guy 1: What's this pink pokemon you have?
Guy 2: What are you talking about? You're the one with the pink one
"KILLER QUEEN'S THIRD BOMB. BITE THE DUST"
*goes back in time*
Guy 1: Want a Triple battle?
 

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Guy 1: Want a Triple battle?
Guy 2: Sure!
*triple battle starts up*
Guy 1: What's this pink pokemon you have?
Guy 2: What are you talking about? You're the one with the pink one
"KILLER QUEEN'S THIRD BOMB. BITE THE DUST"
*goes back in time*
Guy 1: Want a Triple battle?
I think you're confusing Bites the Dust with Moody Blues ;D
 
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Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for almost half a century. A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation.
Why are you criticizing him for stating facts lol
Everyone is talking politics and here I am wondering if a three Oricorio team would be viable in triple battles.
I hope Showdown keeps Triple and Rotations because this needs to be done
Too bad they don't learn Quiver Dance but two with a Volcarona would be hilariously fun with a total of 7 attacks per turn with Fiery Dance+Revelation Dance
 

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So guess what's coming up on Thursday?


The VGAs :lol:


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I forgot it was this week. PlayStation Experience is on the weekend following it too.

I'm actually looking forward to it, I sincerely had a fun time watching last year's show, even though the trailers didn't interest me too much. They said there will be more actual gameplay trailers this year IIRC so it should be even better then.
 
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