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[Wolfie557]

I voted.
http://sourcegaming.info/2016/11/08/mega-smash-poll-pre-switch-edition/

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Meh, I'll get both games eventually

I'll just construct my teams around the exclusives I want to use

 

[praline]

Are all the UB's part bug type? Cause they look like they all would be.

(Don't tell me types just give me a yes or no)

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Are all the UB's part bug type? Cause they look like they all would be.

(Don't tell me types just give me a yes or no)

No, they are not

They basically look the type they are

 

[praline]

No, they are not

They basically look the type they are

But all the ones I remeber look like bug types. But I guess that's good.

Also I imagine they are catchable in the main game.

 

[Erureido]

Some post-game Sun and Moon spoilers for those that are interested

Spoiler: S/M story spoilers

You've been warned

Spoiler: S/M postgame story spoilers

-Lusamine's husband/Lillie's dad discovered the UB dimension. He disappeared during an experiment but left behind Cosmog and some notes on Nihilego.
-Lillie takes Lusamine to Kanto to meet Bill since he has knowledge of people fusing with Pokémon.
-Gladion becomes the Aether president and gives you a different Type: Null.

And now for the big one. This one confirms a certain fan theory.

Spoiler: Huge postgame spoiler

-Anabel is a "Faller" that was transferred by a UB Wormhole to Alola from Emerald Hoenn. It basically confirms that Mega Evolution timeline theory that was first mentioned in OR/AS.

 

[Deleted member]

The only thing that bothers me about Mudsdale is its signature move.

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Is there ANY reason to use High Horsepower over Earthquake? HH just does five less damage and is five percent less accurate. I don't get it...am I missing something?

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Yeah, I feel the same way but then again, all other physical Ground moves were always pretty pointless with Earthquake around
It could at least have some secondary effect, what was even the point of creating it again?

is his new move AOE? because if its not then you dont need to worry about damaging an ally i guess.

>Playing doubles
Lol

Spoiler: Pokemon spoilers

Isn't Drampa in Sun and Turtonator in Moon?

Apparently that was a mistake on the dataminer's part

 

[Lord Dio]

Say Hello to your new avatars

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wayyyyy too much green

 

[Deleted member]

Oh wait, it got another thing wrong

Sandshrew and Vulpix are reversed

I'm pretty sure it's really Vulpix for Sun and Snowslash for Moon iirc

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm pretty sure it's really Vulpix for Sun and Snowslash for Moon iirc

Not according to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-mHiR1H-28

Edit: Did they get those wrong?

 

[Ivander]

Apparently that was a mistake on the dataminer's part

So we still don't know which one is in Sun and which one is in Moon?

 

[Opossum]

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Yeah, I feel the same way but then again, all other physical Ground moves were always pretty pointless with Earthquake around
It could at least have some secondary effect, what was even the point of creating it again?

>Playing doubles
Lol

Apparently that was a mistake on the dataminer's part

Wait so Turtonator's NOT in Moon?

Well. Time to revise my team again. Or just say screw it and only use five Pokémon.

 

[Schnee117]

Planned \[T]/ Team:

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Demyx (Primarina)
Budweiser (Mudsdale)
Sif (Midday Lycanroc)
Borg Camlann (Golisopod)
Shendu (Kommo-o)
Morrigan (Salazzle)

Others for consideration:
Toucannon (Tookie) - If I decide I want a flying type.
Alolan Raichu (Nora) - Cool idea but the movepool is awful.
Silvally (Zygote) - Pretty sure that's an end game thing.
Dhelmise (Burgundy) - Seems interesting but not entirely sure on it.
Solgaleo (Solaire) - It's the Legendary so maybe.

Edit: One small change.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

We are interrupting PokeHype to present
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1429448857/fujiyama-ichiban-ultimate
Got some big names in there, even guys who worked on Wolverine. I wish I could fund it Q.Q

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

LOL, I just realized the purpose of

Spoiler

Alolan Golem

Galvanized Explosion

120 base attack

Does he also get STAB from that?

 

[Chrono.]

Any word on how long the game is/how much post game content there is (no spoilers please)?

 

[AreJay25]

... Oh.

Spoiler

Talonflame got rekt.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[powerprotoman]

Some post-game Sun and Moon spoilers for those that are interested

Spoiler: S/M story spoilers

You've been warned

Spoiler: S/M postgame story spoilers

-Lusamine's husband/Lillie's dad discovered the UB dimension. He disappeared during an experiment but left behind Cosmog and some notes on Nihilego.
-Lillie takes Lusamine to Kanto to meet Bill since he has knowledge of people fusing with Pokémon.
-Gladion becomes the Aether president and gives you a different Type: Null.

And now for the big one. This one confirms a certain fan theory.

Spoiler: Huge postgame spoiler

-Anabel is a "Faller" that was transferred by a UB Wormhole to Alola from Emerald Hoenn. It basically confirms that Mega Evolution timeline theory that was first mentioned in OR/AS.

Spoiler: on the topic of the fan theory mentioned in the spoiler

its not a theory when the game flat out says thats what happened...seriously the world with out mega evolution is litteraly the pre gen 6 games this was less a confirmation of a fan theory and more a shut up and stop denying it to people who refused to belive what was infront of them

 

[Metal Shop X]

I would dream off playing with 4 people while I use my Kira Mii or my Sanic mod and just throw item and **** and have a good time.
Sadly, the futur refused to change....
No really, if some people here can be free for like, Friday (or maybe sooner if I had good day). It will be fun to play some free-for-all. Ya know, like a good old casual.
Tough, everyone is going to be on Pokemon Sun & Moon, so rip dream.

 

[Champ Gold]

... Oh.

Spoiler

Talonflame got rekt.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Spoiler

RIP SmogonBird

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But you can't stop BANFROG since Protean still exist and Ash-mode only exist for one Pokémon

 

[Cutie Gwen]

This gen CERTAINLY seems the most balanced tbh. Lots of powerful mons that have slow speed, retooled abilities and more

 

[Erureido]

Some story-related stuff regarding Guzma for anyone that is interested

Spoiler: S/M Story Spoilers

You've been warned.

Spoiler: S/M Story spoilers regarding Guzma

Here's what Guzma says when he's in the Ultra Space later in the game.

"I'm the Team Skull boss, and I've never been scared of nothing or nobody. Heck, I live my life making people scared of ME! So listen to what big bad Guzma has to say..."

"Y'all are stupid! How in the world did you even get to this place? I've got no idea how you did it, but here you are."

"It's all dark here...I've got no clue what's going on, but there's beasts everywhere... I tried to catch one of those things...but it possessed me! And that's when it happened! My body, my mind... They started running wild and I couldn't do anything about it! It was like I became somebody else, and I finally felt what fear feels like! It was terrifying!"

"I may be the Team Skull boss, and I've never been scared of nothing or nobody, but... that lady...she's on another level! She's way far gone! She's lost her mind over these Ultra Beasts! There's no talking to her, no reasoning with her... She's just gone..."

"That doesn't change anything. I still have to go!"

That's some pretty good dialogue.

Spoiler: on the topic of the fan theory mentioned in the spoiler

its not a theory when the game flat out says thats what happened...seriously the world with out mega evolution is litteraly the pre gen 6 games this was less a confirmation of a fan theory and more a shut up and stop denying it to people who refused to belive what was infront of them

Spoiler: Regarding that

Thank you for telling me that, but I think you should calm down a bit.

 

[Aurane]

... Oh.

Spoiler

Talonflame got rekt.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

You have no idea how much I'm laughing at this.

Spoiler

Goodbye trashbird. You will not be missed.

 

[Deleted member]

Regarding the TMs

Spoiler

We've known this for a while but now we know one of them is the new Dark AOE
Has anyone seen those TM numbers in the learnsets of a Pokemon? Because they're supposedly new bht I haven't seen any of them

Not according to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-mHiR1H-28

Edit: Did they get those wrong?

I'm not sure tbh, I saw in the NeoGaf thread that it was Vulpix and Turtonator for Sun and Sandslash and Drampa for Moon

So we still don't know which one is in Sun and which one is in Moon?

Supposedly, it's the above

LOL, I just realized the purpose of

Spoiler

Alolan Golem

Galvanized Explosion

120 base attack

Does he also get STAB from that?

Spoiler

Yeah, the move is treated as if it normally was Electric

... Oh.

Spoiler

Talonflame got rekt.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Stealth Rock is even more deadly to it now lol

 

[Opossum]

Spoiler: Sad Squawking in the Distance

It's okay, Talonflame. I'll still use you. </3

 

[Arcanir]

I'm still trying to catch up with the datamine, but a couple quick thoughts while I have them down:

Spoiler

Both Lycanocs look decent. Midday's movepool could be better and its HA is bleh, but I like that they finally gave us a more dedicated sweeper outside of legendaries since most Rock types don't play to that role, Midnight is a bulkier Rock type, which isn't a good thing for it since Rock types are not built for bulk, but its HA is good since the strongest Rock type moves tend to be more inaccurate.

I like Salandit2's design, but why are they so insistent on giving Pokémon with gender only evolutions low distributions in that gender? It's was pretty annoying with Combee and I was hoping they wouldn't repeat that, though at least Salandit will be easier to find in the wild then splatting trees with honey and hoping you get lucky. Also, its Pokedex entry is... interesting to say the least.

I love Golisopod's stats, though I'm disappointed that they essentially kept Wimp Out on it. The fact that it grows from a wimp to a strong looking bug I felt would've made it dropping the ability make sense for its story, so it not losing it is kind of disappointing.

Kommo-o looks really balanced, which I'm glad to see. Its learnset is a bit odd in areas (really, no Fighting moves?), but it makes up for it with TMs and the like.

After seeing it in the datamine, I love Buzzwole. I love its animations, I love the name, the typing's awesome, and the stats look pretty good. Funny how the mosquito, a bug I don't care for at all, ended up being one of my favorite Pokémon/UBs in the generation. Necrozma is also pretty cool and I like the creepiness of the others.

Also, poor Talonflame got screwed, though I can't say I'm surprised considering how popular it was on Battle Spot.

Edit: Also, I'm hearing that Eviolite got nerfed, is that true?

So they leaked all the past trainers that appear in the Battle Tree

Spoiler: S/M Spoilers-Battle Tree trainers

The ones we know:
Red and Blue
Wally
Cynthia

The others:
Sina
Dexio
Anabel
Grimsley
Colress

They also leaked the trainer sprites for Anabel and Grimsely. Both have completely new models

Spoiler: Anabel's new model

I like this design much more than her old one.

Meanwhile, Grimsley's new design....

Spoiler: Grimsely's new design

Wow, looks like we got really unlikely with that gambling habit lately. Poor guy.

Spoiler

Wow, Gen 2 got squat. I know Johto is usually treated as an offshoot of Gen 1, but even then I figured they'd at least add Silver in there.

Also, I do have to say there are some odd choices here. Sina and Dexio wouldn't have been my choices for the Battle Tree considering the number of characters that are much more memorable then them, but I'm guessing they got it due to their models existing in the game already. Grimsley and Anabel are also in the same position, though I'm not upset with their additions since I enjoy their characters and I'm happy to see more of them. The rest are good choices, I do wish we got more options then just those nine, but I'm not upset with the ones we got.

So we still don't know which one is in Sun and which one is in Moon?

Spoiler

Seems so, I'm looking for the original pastebin with location data, but it looks like Drampa/Turtonator and Vulpix/Sandshrew are a little mixed up right now, hopefully they address that soon.

 

[Lord Dio]

Regarding the TMs

Spoiler

View attachment 120786
We've known this for a while but now we know one of them is the new Dark AOE
Has anyone seen those TM numbers in the learnsets of a Pokemon? Because they're supposedly new bht I haven't seen any of them

I'm not sure tbh, I saw in the NeoGaf thread that it was Vulpix and Turtonator for Sun and Sandslash and Drampa for Moon

Supposedly, it's the above

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Yeah, the move is treated as if it normally was Electric

Stealth Rock is even more deadly to it now lol

welp.....if ninetales is in sun.....a friend and I are going to be very mad, and very upset.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

NONONONONONONONONONO
PYUKUMUKU IS RUINED
IT'S HIGH DEFENCES DON'T HELP INNARDS OUT
AND IT LEARNS ZERO OFFENSIVE MOVES
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

 

[praline]

NONONONONONONONONONO
PYUKUMUKU IS RUINED
IT'S HIGH DEFENCES DON'T HELP INNARDS OUT
AND IT LEARNS ZERO OFFENSIVE MOVES
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

How can it attack if it gets no offensive moves?

 

[Ivander]

Why must you be 10 days away, Sun & Moon?! Too many story spoiler boxes I want to open!

I'm still trying to catch up with the datamine, but a couple quick thoughts while I have them down:

Spoiler

Also, its Pokedex entry is... interesting to say the least.ot.

Source?

 

[Z25]

So a questions:

Don't want major spoilers but I'd like to know these:

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Are legends shiny Locked? Any legends beside the new ones in Sun and Moon catchable post game?

What are the empty plots of lands for?

And do Zinnia, AZ, and the SS. Anne appear.

 

[Erureido]

Some other trainer models have been leaked

Spoiler: Some S/M trainer models

Here's the first batch. Looks like the girl between ghost girl and Hala might be a Trial Captain. The guy between Hala and nurse looks like the Dark-type Kahuna.

There's also one for Burnet

Now this final one is probably story spoilers

Spoiler: Potentially big story spoiler

Champion Kukui anyone?

 

[Pazzo.]

I need to see the

Spoiler: Su/Mo

Origami Monster and Pillar Thing.

Thanks.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

How can it attack if it gets no offensive moves?

Bide and Counter. That's it
ALSO HOLY **** THE MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEkW7MtXullj8h3ADLC1WfMmqUupZVHOY
SPOILER WARNING! Includes postgame trainers, but holy ****, Ultra Beast theme

 

[Deleted member]

I'm still trying to catch up with the datamine, but a couple quick thoughts while I have them down:

Spoiler

Both Lycanocs look decent. Midday's movepool could be better and its HA is bleh, but I like that they finally gave us a more dedicated sweeper outside of legendaries since most Rock types don't play to that role, Midnight is a bulkier Rock type, which isn't a good thing for it since Rock types are not built for bulk, but its HA is good since the strongest Rock type moves tend to be more inaccurate.

I like Salandit2's design, but why are they so insistent on giving Pokémon with gender only evolutions low distributions in that gender? It's was pretty annoying with Combee and I was hoping they wouldn't repeat that, though at least Salandit will be easier to find in the wild then splatting trees with honey and hoping you get lucky. Also, its Pokedex entry is... interesting to say the least.

I love Golisopod's stats, though I'm disappointed that they essentially kept Wimp Out on it. The fact that it grows from a wimp to a strong looking bug I felt would've made it dropping the ability make sense for its story, so it not losing it is kind of disappointing.

Kommo-o looks really balanced, which I'm glad to see. Its learnset is a bit odd in areas (really, no Fighting moves?), but it makes up for it with TMs and the like.

After seeing it in the datamine, I love Buzzwole. I love its animations, I love the name, the typing's awesome, and the stats look pretty good. Funny how the mosquito, a bug I don't care for at all, ended up being one of my favorite Pokémon/UBs in the generation. Necrozma is also pretty cool and I like the creepiness of the others.

Also, poor Talonflame got screwed, though I can't say I'm surprised considering how popular it was on Battle Spot.

Edit: Also, I'm hearing that Eviolite got nerfed, is that true?

Spoiler

Wow, Gen 2 got squat. I know Johto is usually treated as an offshoot of Gen 1, but even then I figured they'd at least add Silver in there.

Also, I do have to say there are some odd choices here. Sina and Dexio wouldn't have been my choices for the Battle Tree considering the number of characters that are much more memorable then them, but I'm guessing they got it due to their models existing in the game already. Grimsley and Anabel are also in the same position, though I'm not upset with their additions since I enjoy their characters and I'm happy to see more of them. The rest are good choices, I do wish we got more options then just those nine, but I'm not upset with the ones we got.

Spoiler

Seems so, I'm looking for the original pastebin with location data, but it looks like Drampa/Turtonator and Vulpix/Sandshrew are a little mixed up right now, hopefully they address that soon.

Spoiler

Wimpod DOES lose Wimp Out upon evolving
It gets Emergency Exit instead "The Pokemon, sensing danger, switches out retreating from battle"
Its effect is still the same but it shows that while it growed to become much stronger, it understands that you just can't win every fight and need to retreat when you know you can't win
Honestly, I might let a second Water type just for him, I already have two Fairy types anyway

NONONONONONONONONONO
PYUKUMUKU IS RUINED
IT'S HIGH DEFENCES DON'T HELP INNARDS OUT
AND IT LEARNS ZERO OFFENSIVE MOVES
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

It's the new Wobuffet except it can learn TM status moves
This makes it the first fully evolved Pokemon that can learn TMs but can't learn Hyper Beam or Giga Impact

 

[Soul.]

... Oh.

Spoiler

Talonflame got rekt.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

hahahaha what the ****. wait, how did it get nerfed

Unaware also got nerfed I think

 

[praline]

Bide and Counter. That's it
ALSO HOLY **** THE MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEkW7MtXullj8h3ADLC1WfMmqUupZVHOY
SPOILER WARNING! Includes postgame trainers, but holy ****, Ultra Beast theme

Wait.. what? What kind of crap is that? Pyukumuku looked interesting but it turned out to be **** tier. No, worse than **** tier.

 

[Yellowlord]

Man... It really is going to be hard to survive not looking at story/post-game spoilers for 10 days. Adding on to the fact that I have a class where there's a chance somebody may bring up the leaks makes this all the more difficult to avoid...

Also, about Pyukumuku; can't say I am surprised it's unable to attack and is just another Wobbuffet. When you think about it, it's literally the equivalent of a sharp rock; they can't hurt you unless you physically step on them.

 

[Schnee117]

Regarding the TMs

Spoiler

View attachment 120786
We've known this for a while but now we know one of them is the new Dark AOE
Has anyone seen those TM numbers in the learnsets of a Pokemon? Because they're supposedly new bht I haven't seen any of them

Spoiler

TM59 is Brutal Swing.
TM67 is Smart Strike.
TM70 is Aurora Veil.

 

[praline]

I wanna know if either rumour of the UBs being also certain humans or that they're microscopic Pokemon are legit... but I also do not.