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[AwesomeAussie27]

Since people are talking NMS again, I'll share a masterpiece that perfectly sums everything about the game from early reveals to now.

That part with the Derpasaurus gets me every time.

But nothing beats Merth. Nothing.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Decided to get into the HalloWAAH spirit and change muh avi!

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

The Steam Reviews are sitting on.... just see for yourself.

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Must be hard on them, as it has basically become a cool thing now to hate on the game, not to mention many see it as the epitome of everything wrong with the gaming industry practices now, like pre-order culture and hype culture.

If you're under the influence then its the greatest game in history. Put yo mouf on da curb kirby

 

[FalKoopa]

If you're under the influence then its the greatest game in history. Put yo mouf on da curb kirby

I'm seen enough from Jimquisition to know what the "influence" can do to you. >_>

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

I'm seen enough from Jimquisition to know what the "influence" can do to you. >_>

No man's sky is a drug in its own right.

I play it with song in the background often

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It's not really confirmed for now, but it's going to be pretty strange for an iconic character like Mario to not have Charles Martinet play him anymore.

Hopefully this is just a rumor or mistake.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/10/...ook-page-says-hes-now-the-former-mario-voice/

Nintendo isnt on that list of places so you are worring over nothing

 

[Wario Bros.]

So my Toys "Я" Us is not taking preorders for the NES Classic Edition.

I pray that Nintendo will keep it well stocked if that's the case...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-28-street-fighter-5-sales-grind-to-a-halt-as-community-calls-for-revamp

Man ther s so much that's wrong with the game and the poor sales just hurt it

I'm one of those 100,000.

It's a shame.

I'm getting more bang for my buck every month or so.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Bulbapedia says Oricorio changes forms by taking a sip of certain nectars
I have no idea where they got this from but I really hope it's true

Came right from the sun and moon website

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

From NMS looking like a mess to SFV having poor sales now


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-28-street-fighter-5-sales-grind-to-a-halt-as-community-calls-for-revamp

Man ther s so much that's wrong with the game and the poor sales just hurt it

"One of the ideas put forward is that Capcom should re-release Street Fighter 5 as a Super, Ultra or whatever version"

That's exactly WHY I haven't bought the game

The community apparently wants this, and this is the reason I haven't bought the game

 

[Coricus]

Askagamedev did a few blog posts on the Nintendo Switch
http://askagamedev.tumblr.com/post/152339846394/stuff-happened-while-i-was-out-part-1-nintendo
http://askagamedev.tumblr.com/post/152347209496/hello-dev-man-im-the-second-anon-from-your-last
http://askagamedev.tumblr.com/post/152365446766/hey-gamedev-you-seem-to-be-fairly-negative-on-the

I'd watch this as a supplement

This isn't doom and gloom for the Switch, it can very much do well despite all these issues, but these are still very considerable issues that it'll face in regards to third party support.

*reads articles*

He thinks they're going to charge $400 for the Switch when $350 for the Wii U bit them in the hindquarters?

. . .I know, I know, focusing on a side detail.

I think the main thing I'm keeping in mind is Sean Malstrom's opinion that third party games are never what primarily sell Nintendo systems in the first place even in regards to things considered to have strong third party support like the NES.

It seems like devs are already going to have practice upclocking and downclocking and messing with files a lot considering the upgrade systems are required to have games their games also work on the base models. Doesn't make it any less work, but it always strikes me as odd when people act like the bar's been properly moved with the upgrade systems when it doesn't seem like that's quite the case.

I'm also not sure that Nintendo would make the single-Con gameplay mandatory for every game, at least in the case of single player games, games with only online multi, or games with certain types of character customization and thus files restricted to one player, since it'd be functionally pointless on anything without local multi on one system, but I guess that remains to be seen.

 

[Deleted member]

Yes

Or, y'know, at least not be passive aggressive

Then maybe you could make an actually funny joke

Or, y'know, at least not be insensitive

Came right from the sun and moon website

Are you telling me all this time I was wondering if I could change between its forms, the answer was literally right under my ****ing nose?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Then maybe you could make an actually funny joke

Or, y'know, at least not be insensitive

Are you telling me all this time I was wondering if I could change between its forms, the answer was literally right under my ****ing nose?

Insensitive to what?

Hermaphrodites?

 

[Schnee117]

The sad thing about the NMS twitter thing is that Sean has been radio silent for two months.
Just pure silence from him and then Sean only tweets because of some twitter shenanigans. Wouldn't be surprised if he went back to being completely silent again instead of actually addressing the elephant in the room.

 

[Kurri ★]

*reads articles*

He thinks they're going to charge $400 for the Switch when $350 for the Wii U bit them in the hindquarters?

. . .I know, I know, focusing on a side detail.

I think the main thing I'm keeping in mind is Sean Malstrom's opinion that third party games are never what primarily sell Nintendo systems in the first place even in regards to things considered to have strong third party support like the NES.

It seems like devs are already going to have practice upclocking and downclocking and messing with files a lot considering the upgrade systems are required to have games their games also work on the base models. Doesn't make it any less work, but it always strikes me as odd when people act like the bar's been properly moved with the upgrade systems when it doesn't seem like that's quite the case.

I'm also not sure that Nintendo would make the single-Con gameplay mandatory for every game, at least in the case of single player or games with only online multi since it'd be functionally pointless on anything without local multi, but I guess that remains to be seen.

Sure third party games aren't the "selling point" of Nintendo consoles, but they're still really important. And ever since the N64, when people hopped over to Playstation because they embraced new technologies, it's been hurting them. A lot of people will then bring up that the Wii was a major success, but that's because they came out with the right gimmick at the right time and after it's novelty wore off, the Wii was pretty much, "oh yeah, that's a thing"

Downgrading stuff for weaker hardware is something Devs already do regularly, but like you said, it's not the easiest task. It might not be bad now, but if/when devs move to the PS4 Pro and Scorpio as their lead platforms it'll just get harder and harder and eventually downgrading for the Switch could become not worth the effort.

As for the multiple control scheme thing, they may not make it mandatory, but we don't know yet, and devs who haven't worked on Switch games yet are probably concerned about that. If Nintendo is cool and doesn't mandate that games have to work for this and that control scheme, then that's a plus. If they do demand it, it's going to be tough for games that require something that a separated Joy-con doesn't have, right stick and d-pad being the biggest issues

 

[Swamp Sensei]

"One of the ideas put forward is that Capcom should re-release Street Fighter 5 as a Super, Ultra or whatever version"

That's exactly WHY I haven't bought the game

The community apparently wants this, and this is the reason I haven't bought the game

If Capcom is telling the truth, that won't ever happen.

They said one of their goals wad that no one would have to throw away an outdated version.

 

[Opossum]

Hopefully the new episode of Generations goes live soon.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Are you telling me all this time I was wondering if I could change between its forms, the answer was literally right under my ****ing nose?

I think it just means each form has its form because it drinks necter from some flowers, not that you can freely change its form

 

[Erureido]

The newest episode of Pokemon Generations is now live!

 

[Deleted member]

Insensitive to what?

Hermaphrodites?

First that you tried to make a joke out of it
Second that you called a "futa" a male, when the definition is basically "woman with a ****"

But I'm not gonna bother too much with this because I have more important things to do now than to problematize stuff on the internet

 

[Schnee117]

There's another Generations episode too.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Since people are talking NMS again, I'll share a masterpiece that perfectly sums everything about the game from early reveals to now.

The whole game was worth it for this alone.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

First that you tried to make a joke out of it
Second that you called a "futa" a male, when the definition is basically "woman with a ****"

But I'm not gonna bother too much with this because I have more important things to do now than to problematize stuff on the internet

Sounds to me like you don't like hermaphrodites

That seems pretty insensitive to me

 

[Deleted member]

I think it just means each form has its form because it drinks necter from some flowers, not that you can freely change its form

Nah, I checked the website and it clearly says it "changes forms by sipping certain nectars"
Which is good to know that I don't have to wait intil the third island to catch the one I actually want

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Nah, I checked the website and it clearly says it "changes forms by sipping certain nectars"
Which is good to know that I don't have to wait intil the third island to catch the one I actually want

No Thats not what it means. Each form is on a different Islands

 

[Wario Bros.]

There's another Generations episode too.

De ****?

And what is wrong with 's face and voice?

 

[Coricus]

Sure third party games aren't the "selling point" of Nintendo consoles, but they're still really important. And ever since the N64, when people hopped over to Playstation because they embraced new technologies, it's been hurting them. A lot of people will then bring up that the Wii was a major success, but that's because they came out with the right gimmick at the right time and after it's novelty wore off, the Wii was pretty much, "oh yeah, that's a thing"

Downgrading stuff for weaker hardware is something Devs already do regularly, but like you said, it's not the easiest task. It might not be bad now, but if/when devs move to the PS4 Pro and Scorpio as their lead platforms it'll just get harder and harder and eventually downgrading for the Switch could become not worth the effort.

As for the multiple control scheme thing, they may not make it mandatory, but we don't know yet, and devs who haven't worked on Switch games yet are probably concerned about that. If Nintendo is cool and doesn't mandate that games have to work for this and that control scheme, then that's a plus. If they do demand it, it's going to be tough for games that require something that a separated Joy-con doesn't have, right stick and d-pad being the biggest issues

In terms of the Pro/Scorpio, I think I'll elaborate on my upgrade point. If developers are required to make their Pro and Scorpio games work on the base PS4 and Xbox One, then they aren't actually going to be moving to them at all. If Sony and Microsoft changed their minds on that, then it might be an issue, but I'm pretty sure they actively fixed the bar at the base level systems in order to not offend/abandon the existing playerbase. Devs and players alike talk big about upgrades on those systems, but with the way it's set up right now they aren't actually going to be making better games so much as they have to make the same game in two versions on the same disk, with one being set to the same level as original Xbox One and PS4.

If you want to make a connection between third parties jumping and sales, then you can't draw the line at "the point they started being archaic." The decline in system sales you see on all those charts started the generation before when Sega made a console that could actually compete and regulated their games less at the same time. You can make a point about Nintendo messing over third parties in general, sure, but it's been happening since Day 1 and the tradition started partially because Atari didn't pay enough attention to theirs and ran the console industry into the states into the ground as a direct result.

The fact that the promised dev list slide is bigger than the 3DS slide and FAR bigger than the Wii U slide means there's likely something in the devkits that looks alright enough behind closed doors to be worth an initial toe-testing, I guess it just remains to be seen whether or not that's enough to make it stick.

 

[Deleted member]

Sounds to me like you don't like hermaphrodites

That seems pretty insensitive to me

I never said or even implied that
If you don't like me problematizing your post: good, it means it's working

No Thats not what it means. Each form is on a different Islands

"Oricorio changes its form by sipping the nectar of certain flowers. Since it has four different forms—the same as the number of islands in Alola—it would seem that different Oricorio live on each of the islands."
It's somewhat ambiguous but I'm assuming that you find different wild Oricorios in each island and each of then has the nectar to change its form

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Why are bus rappers so annoying? Oh wait, because they always really are.

Nintendo isnt on that list of places so you are worring over nothing

You responded a bit too late. Waaaaaaay toooooooo late.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

SEGA: "We Have Plans To Introduce A Completely New Character In Sonic Project 2017" - https://t.co/RRwX7PlmY0

— SSF1991 (@SSF1991) October 28, 2016

Some people are already complaining.

As long as this new character serves a purpose, I'm fine with it.

 

[A Distant Demon]

So today my criminal justice professor was teaching about various crimes and it included assault.

Threatening someone counts as assault in certain circumstances


And to help illustrate his point he pulled out a gun and a pocket knife


I think i've had enough excitement for today. . .

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So today my criminal justice professor was teaching about various crimes and it included assault.

Threatening someone counts as assault in certain circumstances


And to help illustrate his point he pulled at a gun and a pocket knife


I think i've had enough excitement for today. . .

oh I like that teacher

You responded a bit too late. Waaaaaaay toooooooo late.

Oh, That was because I just woke up.

 

[Deleted member]

From NMS looking like a mess to SFV having poor sales now


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-28-street-fighter-5-sales-grind-to-a-halt-as-community-calls-for-revamp

Man ther s so much that's wrong with the game and the poor sales just hurt it

Yeah, true. I mean, I really want to enjoy it, but there's just not enough content. So much so I just end up going with classics I love such as CvS2 and many fighting games I've never played before.(Thanks to mame, I can at least repeat playing a fighting game if it has an arcade mode, but SFV5 got rid of that, sooo...)

I told my GF to get it since it's cheap now and it's pretty simple, since she had interest in it. Buuut, part of me just wants to give her money to buy KoF IV. (And I'm going to get it next month for my B day.) Either way I'll be happy as long as I get to play with her though.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I never said or even implied that
If you don't like me problematizing your post: good, it means it's working

"Oricorio changes its form by sipping the nectar of certain flowers. Since it has four different forms—the same as the number of islands in Alola—it would seem that different Oricorio live on each of the islands."
It's somewhat ambiguous but I'm assuming that you find different wild Oricorios in each island and each of then has the nectar to change its form

You completely dismissed Futa, literally meaning hermaphrodite, as nothing more than a woman with a ****

That sounds to me like your dismissing their unique identity completely as something to be seen as an insult

 

[Coricus]

SEGA: "We Have Plans To Introduce A Completely New Character In Sonic Project 2017" - https://t.co/RRwX7PlmY0

— SSF1991 (@SSF1991) October 28, 2016

Some people are already complaining.

As long as this new character serves a purpose, I'm fine with it.

I've never been up in arms about new characters, so I'm fine too.

I feel like I'm more concerned about the OLD characters having a purpose, TBH. I'm tired of Tails being a less useful Palutena for a decade straight and I just want him to be fully playable in a Sonic Team created game again. At least he's in Mania, thank goodness, that's probably one of the main pluses of what little I know about it so far.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Im getting beast at capturing monsters on MH

 

[Arcanir]

...Okay, now that I've gotten a chance to see my username.

Which one of ya pranked me!?

Here's the trailer for the final Hyrule Warriors Legends DLC pack.

Ah, so it looks like Ravio does dip into his other weapons then the Hammer, that's pretty cool.

You know, seeing this DLC reminds me of how much things can shift for a game with just one moment. Hyrule Warriors when it initially released had pretty lukewarm reception and not a lot of fans cared about it. Then we got the E3 trailer with Midna, and since that point the game was not only did people come around to it, it became a success, got a sequel and support for over two years. If I told anyone that Hyrule Warriors would've gotten all of that at the beginning, most probably would've written me off, so it's kind of funny to look back in retrospect and see how things shifted in its favor from that one trailer.

 

[Kurri ★]

In terms of the Pro/Scorpio, I think I'll elaborate on my upgrade point. If developers are required to make their Pro and Scorpio games work on the base PS4 and Xbox One, then they aren't actually going to be moving to them at all. If Sony and Microsoft changed their minds on that, then it might be an issue, but I'm pretty sure they actively fixed the bar at the base level systems in order to not offend/abandon the existing playerbase. Devs and players alike talk big about upgrades on those systems, but with the way it's set up right now they aren't actually going to be making better games so much as they have to make the same game in two versions on the same disk, with one being set to the same level as original Xbox One and PS4.

If you want to make a connection between third parties jumping and sales, then you can't draw the line at "the point they started being archaic." The decline in system sales you see on all those charts started the generation before when Sega made a console that could actually compete and regulated their games less at the same time. You can make a point about Nintendo messing over third parties in general, sure, but it's been happening since Day 1 and the tradition started partially because Atari didn't pay enough attention to theirs and ran the console industry into the states into the ground as a direct result.

The fact that the promised dev list slide is bigger than the 3DS slide and FAR bigger than the Wii U slide means there's likely something in the devkits that looks alright enough behind closed doors to be worth an initial toe-testing, I guess it just remains to be seen whether or not that's enough to make it stick.

Being required to make sure the game runs on base PS4/Xbox One, doesn't mean it's required to run well on them. It's very possible that you'll have games that run at 60fps on the upgraded systems, but only 30fps on the base, or lower draw distance, muddier visuals. It's not going to happen the moment the upgraded consoles come out, but it will happen eventually. You're not going to give devs more power and not expect them to take full advantage of.

Sure it has to run on base, but it's not running at the same perfomance, and the Switch is weaker than the PS4/Xbox One, and even weaker when it's portable. That is a lot of stuff devs have to be mindful of and that makes the Switch unnattractive, for now. If it turns out to be a money maker, then there's less issues.

 

[Wario Bros.]

On the Street Fighter V thing, it might pick up once a lot more content is available and if Capcom can sell out that content in a single package at a fair price.

Kinda similar when I picked up Killer Instinct a week before Season 3 launched where I wasn't disappointed with what I already had (If backed the game back at day one, it might have been harder for me to keep interested)

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I never said or even implied that
If you don't like me problematizing your post: good, it means it's working

You completely dismissed Futa, literally meaning hermaphrodite, as nothing more than a woman with a ****

That sounds to me like your dismissing their unique identity completely as something to be seen as an insult

Please, You both sound ****ing stupid right now