I get it, and I certainly didn't mean to imply you thought the extreme example I used was on the same level as voice, just that saying "any trait held by the character is valid to dislike" could theoretically if unintentionally apply to something more prejudicial than the limited scope in which you meant it.I don't really wanna get involved in a serious discussion haha, so I'll just say this: obviously people need to be respectful, and someone saying "I don't like xx because they're female" is not respectful. But if I said "I don't like Toad, because most of his incarnations really bug me and his voice and hyperness get on my nerves" People have every right to disagree, but I'd find it odd if they were offended by that.
All I was doing is disagreeing that any aspect of a character is "fine" to dislike, though I know the context in which you meant it was different than the one I applied it to, which I only did because under such logic... it was applicable.
And I realize most people in this situation meant no such implication as the one I took it too, merely an extension of "anything is fair game" logic dips into dangerous territory.
You seem to think I said something along the lines of "if you hold an unpopular opinion about an aspect of a character, it's not fine to express such an opinion", when the point I was making was "classifying the dislike of any aspect of any character as 'fine' is a slippery slope because while it can apply to relatively trivial things like voice clips, the logical path also allows to it apply to things such as race, sexuality, gender, etc."Well, it wasn't very clear in the post you wrote das all. It sounded more like you were suggesting that some ideas were fine, and others weren't. And that having certain notions was a slippery slope.
I mean, you literally said:
I actually read over what you said a couple times since I couldn't fully get just what you were trying to suggest.
It just rung a bell with:
Which is practically inescapable these days.
And since it was topical, I felt it was worth dropping my two cents regardless, since a lot of people DO prefer to stifle criticism and opposing opinions *cough* Anita *cough*, and it seemed odd that you of all people would start buying into that nonsense.
And yeah, I do find the dislike of a character on those types of basis "not fine", as do the people whose points I was responding to, but nowhere did I say freedom of speech was contingent on the type of opinion you hold. If someone does dislike a character based on the pigment of their skin or their lack of a Y-chromosome, regardless of what that implies about the person, they should still be allowed to hold and express that opinion if they believe it.
I (and most others, including you) would simply not classify that kind of prejudicial, bigoted mentality as an opinion "fine" to hold. But if they want to hold it, and if they want to defend it, that's their prerogative.
I don't really have any desire to continue talking about it past this though, I've said really all I can about the matter. Most people seem to get what I meant, that's good enough for me.
Darn, I guess my opinion that sexism, homophobia and racism aren't fine has made me uncool. I must have mixed up what century this is again. >_>I thought you were one of the cool kids.
I suppose October 21st, 2015 is a justifiable day to do that though.
