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It's a good pack, FBCC and Otis are especially good picks, and I like the idea of S&C as a whip-style character, but I'd rather dig more into the shows we have now, especially given the slight reduction in 90s content from NASB 1 to NASB 2.Thoughts on this dlc pack?
Fanboy and Chum Chum is cringe.Thoughts on this dlc pack?
Nice to see my man Otis included.Thoughts on this dlc pack?
fanboy and chum are, imo, one of the best picks for a new series and I mean that unironcly
Despite me claiming a $50 game shouldn't be that much of a problem in a time where $70 is becoming a normal game price, I've actually been waiting for this since I need to spend as little as possible right now.
Is also a good pick along with Man-arctic
Apparently Nintendo takes longer to approve stuff, so synced updates on all three systems is hard to do.
Unironically I think this would be much better than what we actually got as dlc. I'm just not sure if FanBoy and ChumChum should really be a duo.Thoughts on this dlc pack?
I'm ususally not a huge fan of a non-protagonist getting in first, but Kyle would be actually awesome. I think design wise alone he's much cooler than FB and CC even as someone who really like the characters, and he has a lot of moveset potential with his magic.
The sakurai "whoever designed this is a genius" quote but about Kyle the wizard
Have you considered that maybe people might... like those shows and would like to see them represented alongside other iconic Nickelodeon cartoons?
I never said anything about any specific shows, simply that I'd prefer to dig back into the shows already in and don't understand why the abstract concept of new show rep over existing show rep is so popular, not any specific shows or characters.
Same with me. There's still a lot of holes that need to be filled in regards to how some shows are represented. Bringing back some of the missing characters from the first game would fix it somewhat, but they might need to add some newcomers as well.
I don't really care about "filling holes", I just want fun(ny) side characters.
Didn't you once say that we didn't need more Jimmy Neutron reps because we had Hugh?
Some of them don't. Rugrats is very poorly represented, not having anything beyond Reptar, TLH lost Lincoln while not gaining anything in return, and Hey Arnold's representation is whack.
I said that once about Arnold (him specifically, not his entire show) when Gertie was leaked, but I do not remember saying that about Hugh, and if I did it was ages ago and I was probably not thinking straight due to the obnoxious nature of Immy-posting.
I don't want the "needed" characters, in fact I'd argue that there are NO needed characters in NASB except... I dunno, SpongeBob, Garfield, and maybe Aang. Certainly a lot of needed shows, but it's quite malleable who should represent them considering ensomble casts, duo/odd couple shows, so on - also, have you met me? Whenever I talk about Smash's roster, it's always about its failings as a COGH - no Atari, no Sony, no true Xbox, no European microcomputers, so on.
yes because you misunderstood what sakurai said was that smash had become a celebration of gaming not the he meant it to be
Personally I just think new shows usually means a more visually diverse roster, which is something I like in a fighting games (not just un crossover fighting games). I think that having a bipedal cow, a futuristic looking girl and a boy with a snake would bring more variety than say, another Loud sisters. Not that every Loud sisters are similar, of course Luan would be heavily different from Lucy, but I think there's a lot of merits in a more diverse roster. Also a character from a new show could bring a new stage with his own art style and style of music.
Why would Nintendo ever promote their most direct competitor? That's why you're never getting a Sony character. And Atari characters barely can be considered characters, much less have enough to create a moveset on.
That's actually a fair argument! I may have had a hard time emphasising this, but I am not against new shows, I would love the likes of FBCC and Barnyard actually, and there is a special quality of sorts to seeing a new show in NASB for the first time, I'm simply more interested in digging deeper into the casts of old shows for more Gertie/Ember style picks and don't get why the lack of new shows is considered such a detriment to NASB 2's roster (specifically with how a lot of criticisms of the roster just kinda count the new/old ratio as a statistic) - even as someone who has soured a bit on NASB 2's roster from an inclusion perspective over time post-launch.
so odie and Sokka?
So, Smash celebrating more of gaming history would be a good thing that my fictional complaining about was bad, but Nintendo celebrating their competitors' contributions to gaming history would also be a bad thing? I do not get the logic here. Gaming, as a medium, needs to outgrow console wars, especially for a project that's being marketed as a COGH, and that's part of why I want Sony stuff in Smash.
It SHOULD be to you if you hate hype culture so bad. Because, guess what, it got as bad as it did BECAUSE of all the third-parties that are barely relevant to Nintendo in the two fighters' passes.
Absolutely gaming should outgrow it but that's not the world we live in so instead of saying that Smash is worse off out of a factor outside Sakurai and his team's control, maybe you could accept reality as it stands that your idea of how these games should be is never going to be a reality and that doesn't make them a worse experience for it. Smash will never put in characters from niche titles no one remembers or characters from their most direct competitor, and NASB will never rep something like Turtles without at least one because it'd be like shooting their own sales in the foot. Don't forget they looked at the reception of the first game's roster and chose who to keep based on that.
My stance on Smash is that the marketing is the problem - fighter choices have played a role, but toxic Smash discourse dates back to when Brawl did the dojo reveals, and truly became nightmarish once the 8th gen games started doing trailers. The answer, IMO, isn't to do more low key characters (which, ironically enough, most COGH picks would themselves be - nobody's going to wake up their neighbors over the Sims), but to treat the picks themselves as lower stakes and less prestigeous, regardless of how prestigeous the actual behind the scenes process is. Maybe do shorter trailers with less or no CG, maybe just reveal characters through blog posts, maybe reveal everyone at once, but whatever it is, just have the attitude of "oh yeah, Kratos is here now."
I never said that a turtle isn't essential. I said there are no essential single characters except for Bob, Garf, and maybe Aang. "at least one turtle" and "Ren and/or Stimpy" would both count as a pool of multiple characters
Luan would be fun due to her many pranks as a potential moveset.
Grandma Gertie already fills that role.
Did you just double post so you could contradict yourself?!
As much as I adore that he's here, yeah, Garfield isn't really essential, or at least won't be until Nick actually does something with him besides video game appearances and merchandise.
No. That was an accident. I meant to completely overwrite the first post, but I ended up creating a new post instead.
