Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[Faso115]

Ok, the super idea is actually pretty cool.

But i'm noticing that the supers in this game are like, really stiff for some reason. Hopefully they are polished by the full reveal.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Ok, the super idea is actually pretty cool.

But i'm noticing that the supers in this game are like, really stiff for some reason. Hopefully they are polished by the full reveal.

Yeaaah, honestly, supers seem kind of like an afterthought in this game that were only added because they knew people would cry for Final Smashes. I kinda wish they weren't here since most of 'em don't look great and every other use of meter is objectively more interesting (even slime taunts, I'd argue - wasting three bars of meter to BM on your opponent sounds hilarious).

 

[Capybara Gaming]

So that music is totally from a Turtles stage right

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So since it's confirmed there will be no newcomers from other new franchises that have yet to debut in DLC.

Watch that the Loud character we get is Ronnie Anne rather than Luan.

On another note, given the gimmick with Daggett and Norbert. I could see this also working for Lana and Lola in the chance they were DLC.

 

[Guynamednelson]

So that music is totally from a Turtles stage right

Yeah, it's too synth-y for Hey Arnold.

 

[RileyXY1]

So since it's confirmed there will be no newcomers from other new franchises that have yet to debut in DLC.

Watch that the Loud character we get is Ronnie Anne rather than Luan.

On another note, given the gimmick with Daggett and Norbert. I could see this also working for Lana and Lola in the chance they were DLC.

Lana and Lola have enough moveset potential that they can exist separately.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Hasn't the trailer song already been in one of the TMNT spotlights?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Lana and Lola have enough moveset potential that they can exist separately.

Fair.

 

[Teeb147]

So since it's confirmed there will be no newcomers from other new franchises that have yet to debut in DLC.

I don't consider word of mouth to be 'confirmed'.
Strong likelihood maybe, since they've been truthful about the newcomers so far

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Hasn't the trailer song already been in one of the TMNT spotlights?

Entirely possible, I have only watched each of those once though so I'm not sure

 

[Laniv]

Very excited to see Gerald, and that's putting it lightly.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

So since it's confirmed there will be no newcomers from other new franchises that have yet to debut in DLC.

Watch that the Loud character we get is Ronnie Anne rather than Luan.

On another note, given the gimmick with Daggett and Norbert. I could see this also working for Lana and Lola in the chance they were DLC.

I really don't see why they would go with Ronnie Anne, she's neither popular, nor she have particularly big moveset potential. For me Luan is the obvious frontrunner, especially because Ember already took Luna rockstar archetype and I don't see them doing that again. Even if they specifically wanted a Loud house friends for some reason I think Clyde have more chances than Ronnie Anne.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I really don't see why they would go with Ronnie Anne, she's neither popular, nor she have particularly big moveset potential. For me Luan is the obvious frontrunner, especially because Ember already took Luna rockstar archetype and I don't see them doing that again. Even if they specifically wanted a Loud house friends for some reason I think Clyde have more chances than Ronnie Anne.

I mean she did get her own spin-off within just the span of three years after The Loud House debuted...That says a lot.

Granted it eventually got cancelled last year but still.

 

[Teeb147]

Papa genos mentioned maybe Arnold wasn't picked due to how his head would look from a side view, and I hadn't even though of that xD, it could actually have been a factor, I remember smash skins (mods) I tried that didn't look right due to that. (not of arnold, but i mean in general)

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Papa genos mentioned maybe Arnold wasn't picked due to how his head would look from a side view, and I hadn't even though of that xD, it could actually have been a factor, I remember smash skins (mods) I tried that didn't look right due to that. (not of arnold, but i mean in general)

They didn't pick Arnold because unlike Sakurai with Isabelle, they want to stay true to his character being the pacifist he is.

 

[Teeb147]

They didn't pick Arnold because unlike Sakurai with Isabelle, they want to stay true to his character being the pacifist he is.

It could be a mix of those. It's still weird to a lot of people not to have him in, but it makes me wonder too though.. why isn't there even a cameo by arnold? At so far seems we haven't seen.

 

[LimeTH]

Papa genos mentioned maybe Arnold wasn't picked due to how his head would look from a side view, and I hadn't even though of that xD, it could actually have been a factor, I remember smash skins (mods) I tried that didn't look right due to that. (not of arnold, but i mean in general)

I mean, they could always just cheat his animations so that his head rarely shows from that angle. They've done plenty of models that are basically 2D images like certain heads/expressions on Garfield, Ren and Stimpy

Lana and Lola have enough moveset potential that they can exist separately.

I remember thinking they'd make a good duo but that would probably make me a hypocrite!

 

[Teeb147]

I mean, they could always just cheat his animations so that his head rarely shows from that angle. They've done plenty of models that are basically 2D images like certain heads/expressions on Garfield, Ren and Stimpy

I can think of what you mean. I'm not gonna argue about it xD. I just thought it was an interesting take, it could have something to it but I still think it's a mixture of things. I dunno how much being a pacifist matters either.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Papa genos mentioned maybe Arnold wasn't picked due to how his head would look from a side view, and I hadn't even though of that xD, it could actually have been a factor, I remember smash skins (mods) I tried that didn't look right due to that. (not of arnold, but i mean in general)

If they were willing to render Jenny's head at a specific angle to look true to the show, I doubt this'd be an issue for ol' Football-Head. At this point, they either don't wanna add Arnold to be true to his character or they just like everyone else from his show more.

 

[Opossum]

Loving what we've seen of Gerald; super happy he's in!

They didn't pick Arnold because unlike Sakurai with Isabelle, they want to stay true to his character being the pacifist he is.

This is still ultimately a theory at the end of the day. Let's not act like this is confirmed yet.

But yeah, the angle thing doesn't really track for me. Jenny and Danny are also characters who would look off at certain angles, but it doesn't matter because they just use a three quarters view like basically everyone else.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Papa genos mentioned maybe Arnold wasn't picked due to how his head would look from a side view, and I hadn't even though of that xD, it could actually have been a factor, I remember smash skins (mods) I tried that didn't look right due to that. (not of arnold, but i mean in general)

I was thinking this for a while, but not because of uncanny 3D animation or anything, but rather because of hitboxes. Arnold would be a nightmare to design hitboxes for since you need to ensure that all characters' down attacks can hit him without getting audaciously close - otherwise he'd just be a floating oval with a vestigial square nobody can reach at the bottom. I'll make a graphic to describe it shortly.

 

[Teeb147]

I was thinking this for a while, but not because of uncanny 3D animation or anything, but rather because of hitboxes. Arnold would be a nightmare to design hitboxes for since you need to ensure that all characters' down attacks can hit him without getting audaciously close - otherwise he'd just be a floating oval with a vestigial square nobody can reach at the bottom. I'll make a graphic to describe it shortly.

Lol sure I'm not sure 100% so if you feel like making a graphic ill check ;D

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

The red is Sandy's punch, the yellow is where Arnold can be punched. Sandy's punch only barely touches Arnold despite being quite close to him, and she can only really even do that because his elbows are out in the stock render I chose - keep in mind that his fighting stance would most likely have both his arms to one side, making a back attack near-impossible for smaller characters unless it's an air attack or up move (a major hassle in free-for-alls). I'm honestly not even sure if Oblina would be able to land any of her ground attacks on Arnold with how small she is.

 

[Gorgonzales]

The red is Sandy's punch, the yellow is where Arnold can be punched. Sandy's punch only barely touches Arnold despite being quite close to him, and she can only really even do that because his elbows are out in the stock render I chose - keep in mind that his fighting stance would most likely have both his arms to one side, making a back attack near-impossible for smaller characters unless it's an air attack or up move (a major hassle in free-for-alls). I'm honestly not even sure if Oblina would be able to land any of her ground attacks on Arnold with how small she is.
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(just stands there) "ah ggs gottem"

In all seriousness, I think despite his pacifism and weird head shape and all the other excuses used to say Arnold can't fight, I wholeheartedly believe that any character can be given a moveset. The "issues" mentioned before are just minor hiccups, I'm sure it can be done.

now that I've said all that, see you all in NASB3 when we get the pigeon man or something as a playable character instead of arnold

 

[Opossum]

The red is Sandy's punch, the yellow is where Arnold can be punched. Sandy's punch only barely touches Arnold despite being quite close to him, and she can only really even do that because his elbows are out in the stock render I chose - keep in mind that his fighting stance would most likely have both his arms to one side, making a back attack near-impossible for smaller characters unless it's an air attack or up move (a major hassle in free-for-alls). I'm honestly not even sure if Oblina would be able to land any of her ground attacks on Arnold with how small she is.
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As a potential counterpoint, doesn't Squidward have a very similar issue of a big head on a thin body? And it's arguably even more pronounced because Squidward is much taller.

 

[ZeroJanitor]

yeah but Squidward's head still fits the overall profile of his body and isn't making his hurtbox jut out into a T shape.

I feel like the Arnold thing is kind of a non-issue since they could just make the far sides of his head not have a hurtbox and it would still work.

 

[fogbadge]

The red is Sandy's punch, the yellow is where Arnold can be punched. Sandy's punch only barely touches Arnold despite being quite close to him, and she can only really even do that because his elbows are out in the stock render I chose - keep in mind that his fighting stance would most likely have both his arms to one side, making a back attack near-impossible for smaller characters unless it's an air attack or up move (a major hassle in free-for-alls). I'm honestly not even sure if Oblina would be able to land any of her ground attacks on Arnold with how small she is.
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all i hear is sandy saying "move it football head"

 

[RileyXY1]

I'm not even expecting any TLH reps in the DLC due to low demand except for one character, and that one character was rendered completely redundant by a base roster newcomer.

 

[ivanlerma]

all i hear is sandy saying "move it football head"

"HEY ARNOLD!"
Arnold screams as he gets K.O.'d!
Announcer: Finished!

 

[Faso115]

Jenny would disprove that theory as even back in the game they manage to get her shape work fine. That's why Danny looks a lot better in this game too and i guess that goes for Ember.

So really i guess Arnold would just not have a profile shot unless they twist the model around.

 

[Opossum]

Even then it's not like Profile View Arnold is as cursed as something like, say, front facing Phineas. Like, they're rare, but profile shots of him do exist.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Has anyone figured out what the clockwork fountain from the story mode gif is? Perhaps that could give us an idea on another stage.

 

[RileyXY1]

Has anyone figured out what the clockwork fountain from the story mode gif is? Perhaps that could give us an idea on another stage.

Apparently that might just be the boss arena where Clockwork is fought.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I officially decided I may as well eventually get both NASB games, that way with the first one I can face Mamboo07 as CatDog (My second favorite Nick show).

And if he can find an alternative in the second game, play online with you as well on there man.

 

[Mamboo07]

I officially decided I may as well eventually get both NASB games, that way with the first one I can face Mamboo07 as CatDog (My second favorite Nick show).

And if he can find an alternative in the second game, play online with you as well on there man.

True, my new mains are going to be either Squidward, the Beavers, or Grandma since the cut veterans (RIP Lincoln) have no chance of becoming playable.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

True, my new mains are going to be either Squidward, the Beavers, or Grandma since the cut veterans (RIP Lincoln) have no chance of becoming playable.

I really wanted to play the Beavers against you (Lincoln). Both our favorite characters duking it out.

 

[RileyXY1]

I don't really have a main, because I'm not gonna be buying this game at all. I'm sticking with the first game and just hoping that Kart Racers 4 delivers next year. Maybe I just find racing games more enjoyable than fighting games, I guess.

 

[Geoffrey Druyts]

I don't really have a main, because I'm not gonna be buying this game at all. I'm sticking with the first game and just hoping that Kart Racers 4 delivers next year. Maybe I just find racing games more enjoyable than fighting games, I guess.

Yeah. We know. You've already said this like 4 times before.

 

[Mamboo07]

I really wanted to play the Beavers against you (Lincoln). Both our favorite characters duking it out.

Reality is often disappointing sometimes.
(Two Loud House stages yet Lucy is only the sole rep, no wonder Lincoln had the lowest number of mains and is bland compared to his sisters despite being a fan of him)

 

[RileyXY1]

Reality is often disappointing sometimes.
(Two Loud House stages yet Lucy is only the sole rep, no wonder Lincoln had the lowest number of mains and is bland compared to his sisters despite being a fan of him)

And unfortunately it's gonna stay that way because TLH reps have no demand aside from Luna, who was rendered completely redundant when they added Ember.